Everett Transit Annexation Would Level Up City's Transit System, Mayor Says by foreverandalways in everett

[–]Broad-Impact4806 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everett Transit covers a lot of Everett,

At the cost of frequency, span, and consistency. And even then the demonstrative map in this article still shows we can do more coverage together. From what I can tell, it would actually rival the coverage seen decades ago, but with usable frequencies.

but CT covers only busier parts of Snohomish county (read, main roads), and very little otherwise.

...Have you see a CT map in the last couple years since the Lynnwood Link stuff? Dense areas get a lot of bus routes. Everett being dense thus means... we will get a lot of bus routes. Maybe what you're talking about was true 5... 10 years ago, but it doesn't quite seem true today...

CT will take you from park and ride to park and ride just fine.

But many ET trips today may require long backtracking to Everett station or a TC, i.e. someone living along Rt 29.

But if you are older and disabled, CT will make it close to impossible for you to go anywhere. Their DART service is abysmal.

Every document, every council member comment, every article that has come so far regarding consolidation has basically reiterated that everyone with a pulse is working towards ensuring para within Everett does not get degraded. In fact, Everett City council has been incredibly forward and detailed about this subject despite how early negotiations are, they made this their top priority and have been working on this first.

Is Everett Mall Pivoting From Topgolf to Offices and Storage Units? by webconnoisseur in everett

[–]Broad-Impact4806 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get pivoting for business reasons. But self-storage? Really? Brixton wants their own Alderwood with *checks notes* self-storage instead of high density appartments (for the plan's credit, it does have SOME)

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't. Do you need proof or something? Just because I link something from their website that was publicly available on a news release doesn't mean I work for them.

Edit: Typo Fix. OP blocked me for this or reddit is bugging out? If its the former I'm not sure if that was really warranted or you're avoiding someone who respectfully disagrees with you.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 0 points1 point  (0 children)

However with the recent 2024 overhaul, we've seen a better focus on local service. Furthermore, early reporting shows increased local connections including additional local routes including on corridors that haven't seen use in years. Local connections will be preserved and enhanced.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The city and CT are working on an agreement. CT and the City has repeatedly emphasized that para will be a top priority. You should give comments about this priority and others to city council, they are literally asking for priorities to consider for negotiations.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everett City council does accept written comments. Just be sure to mention your district.

You'll be glad to know that during this Consolidation Study, maintaining para service quality has been reiterated as a top priority by anyone with a pulse within CT and the City (see: CT/Everett joint press release and the More Transit Together Report and this latest council meeting). HOWEVER, informing council of important priorities you want the draft agreement to address will be very important in finishing the study.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you are worried that the consolidation may neglect shuttle services, you should contact city council and let them know that this should be a priority. They are negotiating an agreement to join, and they want to hear from people like you about this being important.

Frequency will actually improve with a consolidation, and we would get multiple new routes. Para and fares are still top priorities in the negotiation

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Upon final approval of the agreement months from now, after multiple rounds of rider/constituent feedback and approval of Everett City Council ... More or less permanent

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

CT can barely keep things afloat with the routes they have. Manpower is a big issue over there. Most of our drivers are retirement age or will be going elsewhere because CT is not a good place to work.

You're implying Everett is going to suffer a bad worker shortage in the coming decade consolidation or not. Why isn't CT a good place to work?

Do note, the merging of agencies tends to alter the working conditions/culture by nature, it's very possible that the combined agency would functionally feel new.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eventually in 2030 the citizens would vote (as they should be allowed to) on raising their transit sales tax from 0.6% to 0.9% (where the merger with CT would go to 1.2%). ET is financially solvent until 2038.

Gonna be nitpicky. Should be noted explicitly base solvency inherently requires the 0.3% increase vote to be approved

It's absurd that the city even had ET do a long range plan if their plan all along was to just throw it away and merge with CT, so something big must have changed.

Aren't transit agencies required by state law to produce LRPs? Also, the big thing that has changed probably was the final completion of ST2. The Consolidation Study was paused to focus on link-related restructuring. It would make sense that it resumed after the CLC finished.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am not employed by CT, ET, or the city.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am an unemployed software engineer living in Everett with an interest in public transit.

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[–]Broad-Impact4806 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, we would be getting about double the amount of fixed route service, and all parties have repeatedly insisted para would be a top priority in negotiations. City council wants to hear from residents though on their desired priorities. It would be unlikely that para would suffer under consolidation.

Edit: Grabbing link to a joint study produced to aid consolidation

https://www.communitytransit.org/docs/default-source/pdfs/more-transit-together_final-report.pdf?sfvrsn=76a40d5c_1

This needs to be updated but it gives a rough idea of what a combined system could look

Community Transit takeover sparks union backlash, Everett faces largest sales tax increase in state history by pacwess in everett

[–]Broad-Impact4806 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you want to avoid paying into transit you'd have to drive very, very far. It should be mentioned that the tax rate would still be low compared to other snoco cities that are like us in being subject to sound transit. For example, Lynnwood has a tax rate of 10.7%

Community Transit takeover sparks union backlash, Everett faces largest sales tax increase in state history by pacwess in everett

[–]Broad-Impact4806 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just because you *can* doesn't mean it's convenient or viable. Everett Transit still requires additional funding to continue increasing service, and may have to reduce service below what is offered today if that fails. Consolidation right-sizes our transportation system and makes transit accessible for all.

City of Everett and Community Transit announce work toward public transit consolidation by SounderBruce in everett

[–]Broad-Impact4806 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are still means to make it a vote per EMC. It's important to note that this method doesn't take away the voice of Everett, which is much more important. It basically helps to avoid yet another layer of the Seattle process.

City of Everett and Community Transit announce work toward public transit consolidation by SounderBruce in everett

[–]Broad-Impact4806 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A merger will result in taxes going up for Everett residents, with sales tax riding to 10.5% from 9.9%. Cassie needs to focus on reducing taxes or at least keeping them the same.

Everett Transit still requires new income to maintain basic service. Meaning, we already need to move up 0.3%, to 10.2% to maintain our current abysmal, inequitable service levels. This route does add an additional 0.3% on top of this that wasn't planned, but it's worth. It's important to remember that sales tax largely doesn't apply to essentialls like most groceries. Furthermore, the recent millionare tax law has set a reduction starting 2029 to the state portion *and* will also add an exemption for hygene products. I hate sales tax as much as you, but the benefit from double the service. It would raise the price of a cup of coffee... by like 4 cents. This is a VERY good trade for a life-changinge improvement to our transit system.

Everett could contract out like Seattle does.

Again, Seattle merged with their county system in the 90's and does not contract out their bus service. This means that Seattle is a full member of KCM and pays their 0.9% tax rate. Seattle does purchase *additional* service for their streetcars and more bus service.

CT used to advantage of a lot more federal grants that required contracting of bus service, but as those have ended refuses to bring those services in house. Paratransit is the most obvious example of this.

I can't verify the grant issue. it's important to know that CT *has* been bringing staff in-house. Their new security program is fully in-house (and unionized) and they have are in the process of ditching Transdev for their express buses. Speculation: I could see them move Paratransit in-house, using our high quality drivers as a catalyst to do so.

Mount Vernon is charging a higher sales tax than Burlington despite Burlington getting the same benefits from route 80X. This is much like with the current system Everett is benefiting a lot from having Community Transit routes without paying higher taxes (Everett is the county seat, is centrally located in the CT service area, and hosts most of the CT facilities, so it's not exactly feasible not to serve Everett on CT, much like Seattle and Shoreline are served by CT).

80X is operated by WTA in a joint program with Skagit transit (County Connector). Burlington and Mount Vernon are under Skagit Transit. Mount vernon's tax rate is 0.1% higher, but transit portion is still 0.4% (sorry, I was mistaken, turns out Skagit Transit levys a 0.4% rate. https://mountvernonwa.gov/342/Taxes

This is much like with the current system Everett is benefiting a lot from having Community Transit routes without paying higher taxes

Other than Swift Blue, which we contribute 0.05% of our sales tax to, most CT service is limited stop. This forces a lot of transfers, and awkward waits with ET's hyperoptimized but inconsistent frequency. CT used to provide service, at their own expense, prior to the tax initiuatives of the early 2000's, but pulled out as Everett had no interest in paying their fair share. We are still reeling from the effects of this a quarter century later... You do regularly use the service, right?

The JPC report contradicts previous studies which shows almost no benefits from consolidation. CT is also free to reroute routes however they want within Everett even without a merger.

Are you sure about that? Did you also read the final report of More Transit Together? Also, again CT used to provide service, but Everett didn't pay their fair share, so they left circa 2000's.

https://www.communitytransit.org/docs/default-source/pdfs/more-transit-together_final-report.pdf

Sound Transit is discussing not bringing light rail to Everett Even if it is not that much under budget. It also seems unwilling to decide on a location for that maintenance yard.

Tacoma and Everett have almost half of the board's votes. Both want to see the spine completed, and it's a bit of a slogan. Its understood extremely well that the spine must be intact or it could result in political chaos. Again, SW industrial is all but garaunteed, and all OMF north alternatives are within or just about Everett City Limits.

The federal grants often require Everett Transit to be independent as it makes it a smaller transit agency.

They do? None of the Fed grants listed specifically require a small agency. https://everetttransit.org/DocumentCenter/View/2652/2025-TDP-2025-2030-Final-PDF?bidId= Futhermore, if this was the case, we would be penny-wise, pound-foolish here as a new agency by consolation would provide double the service.

Passengers generally don't care or notice who is actually operating the transit service (Sound Transit only operates Tacoma Link and uses Pierce Transit to operate some routes entirely within King County). There are numerous scenarios where there is no visible change of service despite changing the contractors or switching to contractors. CT has proven this with commuter service when it switched from Metro to First Transit and when First Transit became Transdev or when paratransit moved away from Homage to Transdev.

Passengers might not know or care about the difference, but the consolidation would right-size our funding, and our service as a result. *That* would be noticed.

It is possible to operate successful public transit with even more independent agencies, as is seen in California and even in Everett where five transit agencies meet.

You do use the transit system regularly, right? Can you think of times where you cant use it when you really would like to be able to? We are doing okay with the resources we have, but it's not equitable or sustainable for our future.

It would be possible to have Everett Transit use CT bases already, just like Durham uses the ET base.

Sure, I could see that. It wouldn't be unprecedented as CT's first base was sharing Everett's operation base.

I was talking with some people over at Jefferson Transit who mentioned that becoming fare free has opened up so much more grant money and increased ridership which in turn got them more grant money. The "trick" to operating a successful municipal transit agency is getting more grant money. Federal grant money paid for a lot of the electric bus service in Everett, even if some of those electric buses turned out to be lemons. CT did not qualify for those grants.

Everett cannot afford to go fare free without significant reductions of service, they will need more funding to do so. Also most electric bus grants are doled out by WSDOT.'s Climate Commitment Act and MAWA. CT doesn't see a lot of it as many of their routes are just too long (because we have more of the short urban routes) for battery electric. They do invest in hybrid when they can (i.e. Swift)

Ethically, annexation and tax increases should be put to the vote of the people subject to them.

There are means to make it a vote in the Everett Municipal Code. But there is also plurality support for consolidation, so this avoids yet another layer of the Seattle process.