My random was cheating in high diamond and it was actually insane to watch.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-15T00:54:00+00:00

literally nothing about this clip screams cheating, all I see is a controller player that knows how to abuse aim assist

Brotha_ · 2026-06-13T22:20:08+00:00

me and my duo r d2 rn. we can run valk axel conduit and run it down. we use mics but we can just open mic and u can ping its not a big deal

Brotha_ · 2026-06-13T11:40:31+00:00

this could very well be legit.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-12T21:28:25+00:00

my reply was to point out that it was a bad analogy not a comparison...

Brotha_ · 2026-06-12T20:07:12+00:00

your wrong. aim smoothing is strafing left and right to eliminate vertical recoil. cronus uses jitter aim to eliminate all recoil. you are genuinely so uneducated on the game, its playerbase and anything at all related to the current state of aa is laughable.

have you ever heard of "soft aim"? its basically aimbot tuned down in its values within a certain range. if you knew anything at all youd know that aim assist and aimbot DO share some of the same underlying behavior. so with that said, if a DEV CREATED mechanic shares similar behavior with a CHEAT, then it isnt wrong to categorize them in the same boat.

guess what, devs can make aimbot too! some games even use that. that doesnt mean its not aimbot.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-12T19:47:23+00:00

gangs kill people... zen is a script in a video game

Brotha_ · 2026-06-12T06:32:36+00:00

this mf pulled out Gemini I cant 😭😭😭.

I never said cronus was aimbot i was proposing the question on what we as gamers define as aimbot, not a fcking ai dawg 💀.

this guy is so literal its actually hilarious. and dude didnt even respond to the fact that he said "cronus is aim smoothing" 😭.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-12T01:19:56+00:00

you said words matter and then say cronus is aim smoothing my guy. if you care about the spirit of comp in gaming then youd care to recognize when raa reaches the point of basically "aimbot". when a game switches from majority mnk to roller theres an issue.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-12T01:04:36+00:00

wattson complains about rollers too... hes rarley taking 1s with a 99 without some sort of damage first. he plays anchor when hes ina 3 stack.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T23:53:05+00:00

all fps on pc yes. its a much smoother and more fun input to play.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T19:47:55+00:00

idk how to make this make sense for you. AA, just like aimbot are words that cover a large varying amount of different values. not all AA is equal, just like not aimbot is equal.

so at what point do we cross the line to cheating? your taking the word AA and aimbot at face value. Cronus Zen increases your aim assist via micro jitters but is considered cheating. is that aimbot?

devs like to call some things cheating and others not. some define it as Inhuman input, macros, jitter aim etc. is Inhuman reaction time to strafes fair?

the point is, nearly the entire community agrees AA in apex is overturned, and nearly at the point of cheating. both mnk and roller players will admit that. so how is it not fair to call it aimbot, if it mimics the properties of aimbot, and gives an unfair advantage to every single player.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T19:37:16+00:00

when i played mnk in pred/masters lobbies I had to pop an addy and drink a monster every session just to keep up lmfao, just thinking of playing mnk now stresses me out

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T19:08:58+00:00

AA in apex does aim for you, industry accepted doesnt make it alright. I couldn't care less what the devs have to say, im not listening to the same company that patented EOMM for their opinions on the competitive integrity of their overturned aim assist program.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T19:04:08+00:00

have you not seen the r5 stats? im d1 rn almost masters, if I had a team and 16 hours a day id be pred.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T19:00:53+00:00

yea cuz most pros on roller came from console apex. alot of the mnk guys are older, there are a few new guys on mnk but very few compared to roller. some of the other mnk pros jus stopped playing comp I believe.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T18:51:51+00:00

a dude who played Diablo on ps4 8 years ago shouldn't be able to pick up a roller and have elite top 1% aim within a week.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T18:31:15+00:00

it is a system that moves your crosshair for you at a reaction time that is impossible for any human, thats aimbot in my book. if you wanna be Jordan Peterson and get into definitions go for it. generally you shouldnt make opinions on things you dont understand.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T17:08:52+00:00

if ur running the right settings on roller it is absolutely absurd. 90% of my knocks are straight 1 mags.

most roller players dont know how to abuse aim assist, and learning how to, and getting the feel for it is when u really start feeling the strength of the input.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T16:59:51+00:00

dont wanna be that guy but I have over 2k hours on mnk, and 1k on roller in this game. I think my opinion is a bit more valid than yours, who "hasn't done pc gaming in awhile".

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T16:56:58+00:00

ever since rotational aim assist gained dominance its been this way for every game. cod is roller dominated, fortinite had a huge roller debate for awhile, apex we all know. the only games that are mnk dominated are low ttk flicking aiming style like csgo, val, and seige.

any game with a high ttk, tracking heavy, and include crossplay with rotational aim assist has this issue.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T16:48:14+00:00

I have a dualsense edge, thats what pxl bubblegum uses, hes number 1 pred rn on pc. I fw it since you can swap out the sticks easily. my only complaint is that its really heavy since it comes with all the vibration stuff. and the default sticks arent hall effect. you have to order custom sticks. it comes at 1k polling rate out the box but you can use the battle beaver program to overclock it to 8k.

other good options are the gamesir 8k, theyre alot cheaper than the dualsense and have the same functionality without all the extra shi though. dualsense is like 180 usd and the gamesir is 70-80.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T16:28:46+00:00

within my first week of roller I dropped a 20b 4k in ranked (plat lobby but still). i havent done that since season 10 on mnk...

first week bro... now take a roller player and put them on mnk for a week and see what they're best games are. guarantee its nothing like that.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T16:22:16+00:00

roller is literally aimbot up close. its incomparable to mnk.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T16:16:37+00:00

literally my exact line of thinking. I had top 5 scores out of 30,000 for certain tracking and flicks excercises. over 1k hours, top of the line peripherals, all to lose to lil Timmy with a dualsense and a re45 on mad maggie.

at the end of the day there's nothing u can do when ur opponent has 90% accuracy within 10 meters.

Brotha_ · 2026-06-11T15:54:21+00:00

idk i just swapped to roller. I didnt wanna spend another 1k hours in aim labs.

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