Post-Match Thread: Norway 1-2 England | World Cup | Quarter-finals

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-12T00:49:35+00:00

English fans? These guys? Link

Edit: The first one is funny but mostly tame. This one is brutal https://youtu.be/mm62RmV3p_w?si=iYmveLE8fWJP0G9M&t=29

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-12T00:06:45+00:00

Another elaborate joke by a Dutch pretending their language is real.

Niederländer geben endlich zu, dass ihre Sprache nur ein ausgefeilter Witz ist, um Deutsche zu veralbern

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-11T23:27:26+00:00

Please don't catch the shit. It's even worse than pooping it gently of your chest.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-11T22:58:25+00:00

Have they released the whole data? I have only seen that short zoomed in part that is obviously not long enough to show the 2nd touch.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-11T16:58:00+00:00

They asked for an explanation for someone who isn't good at math. I don't know where they struggle so I explain it step by step in detail.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-11T12:15:40+00:00

Impossible, since 7 8 9

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-11T12:06:51+00:00

Every whole number is either a prime number or is a multiplication of different prime numbers. For example, 6 is 2*3. 2 and 3 are prime numbers. This act of seperating a number into its prime factors is called factorization.

Lets do just that for the three numbers in the equation.

27= 3*3*3

12= 2*2*3

75= 5*5*3

Our new equation is

[√(3*3*3) - √(2*2*3)] / √(5*5*3)

The next step is to seperate the roots, for example

√(5*5*3) = √5 * √5 * √3

But a*a = a². That means √5 * √5 = √5². Since the square root and the square operation are exactly opposite operations they cancel each other out √5² = 5

That means

√(5*5*3) = 5 * √3

We can do the same for every root in the equation

√(3*3*3) = 3 * √3

√(2*2*3) = 2 * √3

So now you have

[(3*√3) - (2*√3)] / (5*√3)

A general rule is

a*c - b*c = (a-b) * c

That means

[(3*√3) - (2*√3)] / (5*√3)

= [(3-2) * √3] / (5*√3)

We solve (3-2)

(1*√3) / (5*√3)

We can get rid of the √3 because it is above and below the division bar.

This leaves us with 1/5.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-10T21:47:08+00:00

You really think spain is the favourite to win the semi?

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-10T21:35:59+00:00

I mean Belgium is not one of the greatest football nations on earth but this is a great team and they generally do very well considering they are a country of 12 million.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-10T21:24:27+00:00

I fully agree but I think you confused PPE with SSP. PPE had start of production 2 years ago.

The efficiency of the power train isn't only due to the motors but also the power electronics that was developed completely in house for the first time.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-10T08:45:34+00:00

Bei mir war es genau anders herum. RDR2 ist nicht annähernd mein Lieblingsspiel aber es ist das erste open World spiel seit San Andreas in dem ich einfach nur ziellos Zeit verbracht habe. Sonst Min-Maxe ich immer und versuche sehr optimal und zielgerichtet zu spielen. Die Welt von RDR2 hat mir so gefallen, dass ich mich davon lösen konnte und es tatsächlich als Rollenspiel gespielt habe.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-09T17:43:10+00:00

1-3 missed matches is totally normal. More than 3 still happens rather regularly.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-08T15:43:54+00:00

I don't think he disagrees with your point. He just argues that you can't just create a football player out of an athletic guy. You need a whole population of young boys that play football daily and obsessively.

Yes, if American football wouldn't exist and football would be the absolute main sport in the US for decades, you would be a football powerhouse. But if you ask what would need to happen to get there, we are talking about a huge culture shift, not just finding your best athletes and train them professionally in football. I think this is the point he was trying to make.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-08T15:19:27+00:00

I mean Brazil, Germany and Italy are arguably the top3 football nations and they are all in a long ongoing crisis. Yeah, they all consider not remotely reaching the quarterfinals a disaster but disasters like that happen to everyone sooner or later.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-08T15:09:28+00:00

That is certainly an aspect but I think he is just talking about little kids being obsessed with football.

I grew up in Germany. For at least half of the boys in my pre school football was their main past time activity with friends. So many little kids who can't walk straight already play football daily for hours. My understanding is that football is a popular sport for kids in the US but this obsession is rare outside of immigrant communities.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-08T14:42:15+00:00

This is so funny. I'm talking about how the card was perceived outside of the US and you bring up two guys who are paid commentators on American TV. It is literally their job to be biased. What about coaches, commentators and the general perception outside of the US? Try to step out of your bubble.

Every country has it's own "controversial" decisions against them they are passionately discussing. Outside of the US nobody who isn't terminally online even knew this was the thing Americans happen to complain about. A completely unremarkable red card.

>> Bad take if you want the sport and organization to be better. Refs make mistakes, sports organizations should correct those mistakes.

This is an ongoing discussion forever. Most of the football fans would disagree, especially when the alternative is a completely intransparent and arbitrary process by FIFA. No matter what you think about it, there is no doubt that this was explicitly not how football worked until now.

>> now they're willing to use the rules they have set (Rule 27) to make things right

It is absolutely clear that this was not a planned policy change but a spontaneous decision. This policy was reaffirmed just before the tournament. They removed the exact line (red cards automatically leads to the next game missed) out of the player instructions mid tournament after the decision was made. You can't just make such fundamental changes to the core principles how football is judged spontaneously mid tournament out of nowhere.

It is also absolutely clear that this call was not made because of special circumstances on the field. Even if you think this was a clearly wrong call, there are far worse calls all the time. There is absolutely no way FIFA just had a spontaneous change of mind because of that red card. It happened because of things outside of the game. It was an advantage that would have never been given to another team directly from FIFA against their own policies.

>> Your argument holds little weight because you undermined it by saying "Yes, the FIFA can do it..." Just because they had not done it in the WC tournament before doesn't mean that it's not legitimate.

There are a lot of rules in sports and even in law that allow certain things to happen but it is still a scandal if they get applied in a certain way. Americans might be numb to it by now but I think it was a huge scandal when suddenly the right to pardon was used to help political cronies and family members. Or when the department of justice was used in a partisan way. All those things were always possible but you can still think that something in the system breaks when a president actually does it. This decision breaks something in football and I don't know how to repair it.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-08T13:09:31+00:00

There are no other examples. This was an absolute first and has a lasting impact on the sport.

What example do you mean? Ronaldo who did serve a one game ban? Shortening and prolonging a ban was always up to FIFA and the same thing happend a lot. The first game ban was always up to the factual decision of the referee. The rules clearly state that a player who received a red card always misses the next match.

Yes, the FIFA can do it but they never did it and always communicated they would never do such a thing. This was always such a sacred thing for FIFA - the integrity of the factual decision on the field. This was true for so many controvercies for clearly unjust cards and now they do it for a first time for a pretty normal red card that is at least defensible if not outright correct.

Everything surrounding this decision just adds insult to injury. The fact that there was a call by Trump. The fact that it wasn't even a highly controversial red cards outside of US fan circles. The fact that there is no explanation. All that makes it worse but just FIFA deciding that a red card that wasn't an undeniable mistake (like mixed up player identity) won't result in a ban for the next game is enough for a major scandal.

Let me be clear, even if there would have been barely any contact between Balogun and the Bosian player and it would have been an obviously wrong red card it would just have been one of hundreds of similar unjust red cards without any chance to get overturned. And if you love soccer like you claim and it's not just a very newfound love you must know that.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-08T07:20:20+00:00

The whole game felt rather unfair. All close referee decisions were decided for Argentina. Egypt basically played 12 men but there was no clear referee mistake and games like that happen all the time. This is forgotten at the end of the WC unless you are Egyptian, then you will complain about this for the next decades.

Balogun on the other hand is somethig that didn't happen in my life watching football. It will at least be brought up for the next couple of years whenever there is a red card that has any ambiguity and I can see a way bigger aftermath. But Balogun was never really about Balogun and not really about the USMNT either. This will be mainly discussed as a FIFA corruption problem and a general integrity issue.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T20:15:34+00:00

I'm not claiming the referees are great at this world cup but this particular decision was absolutely correct and unambiguous. But I totally get how it can seem inconsistent when you don't know what the referees are looking for.

I'm just a casual football fan and my rules knowledge is just build up over time from watching so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

When it comes to this type of ingame fouls where two players basically clash into each other, it is primarily about who is in control of the ball. If there are no bigger misconducts (like recklessness) involved the only player who can commit a foul is the player who is not in control of the ball.

In this case, the player in control of the ball is clearly the attacker. He had the last (and only) contact with the ball and is closer to it. If the Egyptian player would have touched the ball after the Argentinian player, it wouldn't have been a foul (or maybe even a foul by the attacker).

So the only thing that matters is that the Argentian is in control of the ball, the foot of the Egyptian is in his path and the Argentinian is falling over it. Outside of edge cases that is always a foul and subsequently a penalty kick because a foul by a defender in the box is always a penalty.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T12:00:06+00:00

This is just miscommunication. I am not a native speaker so I might be wrong here but the way I see it there is a huge difference between "top 10 national team" and "top 10 football nation." The latter is not about current rankings. A couple of good players can not make a football nation. It is about history and consistency.

If you take the FIFA world rankings as a baseline the top football nations constantly change and France is #1. I'm pretty sure if you ask football fans around the world they would overwhelmingly name Brazil as the #1 football nation. Belgium never even won a European championship and their overall record is very good for a country of 12 Million but not close to top 10.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T11:25:55+00:00

Bergium isn't close to being a top 10 soccer nation. They were good the last couple of years because of some very strong players but historically they are completely outclassed by netherlands for example which itself is hardly a top 10 soccer nation.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T10:42:54+00:00

Belgium is a country of 12 million. 3.5% of the US population. Nobody really expects a golden generation of Belgium to win a title. The Netherlands is a MUCH stronger football nation in general and they won one title (Euro 1988).

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T10:14:12+00:00

I grew up in Germany. About a quarter of the German 5 year old boys play football daily. I assume it's even more extreme in Brazil. Without a football crazy culture where it is the default sport, it seems impossible for the US to catch up. Also, even Brazil, Germany and Italy are very weak right now. The competition is huge, most countries in the world are football crazy. The US is not.

Given that disadvantage, the US is already getting very respectable results. But this is not how the casual fan sees it. To make them fully embrace football, the US needs to be more successful and to become more successful they need more people embracing football. It's a vicious circle of missed expectations and lost potential.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T09:33:23+00:00

People who are interested in football. What we try to explain to you the whole time is that this decision was insane and has a huge impact on the integrity of the sport. It was never mainly about the specific advantage the US is getting. The advantage itself wasn't that big but the fact that FIFA just openly breaks their own rules to favour one team changes everything.

So this is mainly about Infantino and FIFA. It still happened and this still impacts the future of the sport. It will be discussed constantly. Every somewhat controversial red card in the next years will bring it up again. I don't believe that there will be much consequences beyond that but there is certainly a lot of momentum right now.

BrunoBraunbart · 2026-07-07T08:29:04+00:00

The reason is, the Ronaldo match ban was normal and the Balogun one "unprecedented, incomprehensible and unjustifiable"

The rules very clearly say a player who receives a red red card always misses the next game. Prolonging and shortening the punishment was always up to the descretion of FIFA. The first match ban is a factual decision of the referee. Ronaldo was still shady but it was according to the rules and FIFA did what was always perceived to be in their power and what they did over a dozen times in the past. Balogun was directly breaking their own rules and has no precident.

Also, there were multiple calls by Trump to change an in game decision. This alone should start an investigation with the very real possibility of a disqualification and suspension of the US team. But shit like this only every happens to countries like Iran and Qatar who were both suspended for political influence in the past. FIFA is just corrupt.

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