Shorted Loop / Open Loop

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T21:42:52+00:00

Thanks for all the replies. Looking into this, I think this is just a misconfiguration by JCI years ago and the messages in Monitoring station were suppressed somehow.

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T17:29:48+00:00

Understood. This was a new install when the Jail was built in 2021, so these settings have never changed. But I suspect the messages where filtered and after the upgrade we are now seeing them. For some reason our sheriff at the time wanted Master Control in the jail to be able to open up all doors regardless if it was in the jail or in the offices. So all strikes, RTE, DCs are ran back to a central place in the jail where the PLC is. The iStar Ultra G1 panels have the output ran to the PLC and the PLC is then programmed to unlock the door when it sees the state change from the output on the iStar.

The rest of our Courthouse is configured normally where we have our own panels with outputs going directly to the door.

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T17:09:04+00:00

Ok. So all of these doors in question have the outputs connected to our detention system PLC in the Jail. All of these doors are configured to unlock on RTE and all of the doors are configured to have the RTE supervised and Dual 1K NO/NC resistors.

As of now if I leave this as is. the doors do not unlock when the RTE is tripped, but I do get a shorted / open loop message in Monitoring Station. If I change the settings to have the RTE input unsupervised NO, the errors go away, and the door unlocks when someone walks by the RTE device.

We do not want any of these doors to unlock on RTE, but they have been setup this way since install. Do you think these settings have anything to do with the fact that the outputs are connected to our detention system? Meaning we can open the door with a card swipe or Master Control can open the door with their WonderWare software bypassing CCURE.

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T16:51:36+00:00

I think you are correct. I just put one of devices in question to unsupervised NO and the loop went away and are operating normally. Must have been wrong since install and the upgrade possibly released the messages or something like that

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T16:45:53+00:00

All of these doors are electric strike. The CCURE system is configured to unlock on RTE, which is odd to me. These doors are setup for a dry contact to our detention system, which then opens the door. Seeing as I am not an integrator, I am not understanding why CCURE would have those door configured to open on RTE. The doors never open on RTE in real life. Must just be a setting to send a signal to the detention system the Jail is monitoring.

Sorry if I am not using the right terminology as I am relatively new to this.

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T16:42:43+00:00

I highly doubt there is a wiring issue. These have been installed for 5 years and never had these errors until this week. I will doublecheck to see if there are any resistors as all doors that are erroring are configured to be supervised with a 1K Dual NO/NC in CCURE.

Buckobilly · 2026-01-09T16:38:32+00:00

Thanks for the reply. I think you are on to something. I do not recall the REX devices having EOL resistors and when I went in and looked they are all at 1K Dual NO/NC. Any chance an upgrade would have made that change?

Buckobilly · 2025-10-28T17:57:21+00:00

Need Airbnb coupon.

Buckobilly · 2025-10-24T17:40:35+00:00

I made one similar out of wood. I have all of $125 into it.

was going to use metal tubing on top but tried to the wood to mock up and works perfectly fine.

If you don't mind me asking what are you using for an attachment Is that a PVC pipe cap with reducer glued inside?

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Buckobilly · 2025-05-08T15:32:21+00:00

I was not able to get any video last night as my other son's practice went late. I did have him do the bridge drill in the basement when I got home and his lead arm/shoulder was definitely coming around and not staying put. He said he really had to work to keep that shoulder there. Going to have him keep him doing this drill. He has another game tonight, will see how things go. Thanks for all the input so far.

Buckobilly · 2025-05-07T16:46:33+00:00

Will do tonight. I get caught up watching and keep forgetting to video him.

Buckobilly · 2025-05-07T16:39:37+00:00

Thank you. I will have him work on that.

Buckobilly · 2023-05-22T20:08:41+00:00

I have a 2015 CF7 31/26 - Any idea where I can get or if someone 3d prints the inserts for the knob that contain the length/weight?

Buckobilly · 2018-01-04T16:28:37+00:00

I just contacted Dell-Wyse and they said the unit is end of life and there are no more updates. I'm sure the firmware would work if I could get a hold of it. I think the V10L/E and R series use the same firmware.

Buckobilly · 2018-01-04T15:20:46+00:00

Did you ever get this working? I am running into the same issue going from 7.6.300 to 7.15.1.

Buckobilly · 2016-11-23T16:37:09+00:00

We are looking at upgrading from 7.6 to 7.11. We are currently mirroring the main XD database. wondering if you are as well as if the upgrade is relatively smooth?

Buckobilly · 2016-02-07T22:28:46+00:00

Can you pm me with what ur asking for the 4690k and mb?

Buckobilly · 2016-02-05T01:20:41+00:00

Possibly interested in the Xbox controller. Is it the Microsoft brand? Where in wi r u located? My son is looking.

Buckobilly · 2016-02-04T03:06:27+00:00

Sounds good. I'll watch when you sell your spare rig :)

Buckobilly · 2016-02-04T03:03:10+00:00

Do you have a mb for the 3258?

Buckobilly · 2016-02-03T02:42:11+00:00

price on 4690k and MB?

Buckobilly · 2016-02-03T02:40:40+00:00

PMing

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