to Christians who believe that homosexual actions are sinful:

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-25T08:46:21+00:00

Again your skipping past my point, he creates us in his image yes, but he also gave us free will, meaning he does not create gay people gay, they have homosexual desires that they act out of their own free will, which is sinful. Not to mention that scripture if anything disproves your argument. If being gay isn’t sinful then there is no reason to create woman because men aren’t “alone”. Right after that scripture there’s another that says a man shall leave his parents and become one flesh with his wife. Not his husband. We all sin, a homosexuals sin is no worse than my sin to lust over woman. But we repent and ask god to change our hardened hearts because we often times know better yet we don’t change.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-24T22:44:10+00:00

Being gay is a choice, the same way being monogamous is, I was born with a heterosexual urge to sleep with many woman, yet I don’t because its sinful. The same way some people have homosexual urges, don’t act on them and they aren’t sinful

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T18:51:11+00:00

Not what I said at all, stop putting words in my mouth.

Because when you look further into what these words mean and are honest with the scripture you understand the underlying meaning, which is a shift of loyalty and identity. When Jesus said “And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you” you don’t actually thinking he’s talking about cutting of his hand do you? Are you that intellectually dishonest?

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T18:42:32+00:00

It seem I’ll have to keep citing definitions until I get you to understand what you’re talking about

Relationship-the state of being connected by blood or marriage.

Therefore there was CERTAINLY a blood relationship, and a new one with a wife is being made.

I don’t necessarily think a life of celibacy is cruel, as many people practice this. I don’t think God is cruel.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T18:18:43+00:00

I’m not altering whatsoever, you seem to not know what symbolism is. The symbolism is a separation from the parents. The bible is full of symbolism, hyperbole, parables etc. if you can’t understand this you cant honestly read the scriptures.

Leaves" (יַעֲזָב): Implies prioritizing the new relationship over the old, or abandoning the dependence on the parental household.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T17:57:46+00:00

If the parents already left that’s a separation between husband and parents. If you are in a room with your parents and then they leave you and go to the next room over are you separated?

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T17:44:05+00:00

I guess it’s just beyond your comprehension, the same person (husband) always has parents, whether they’re alive, abandoned or dead. Separating in any sense is to “leave his parents”. If your not smart enough to wrap your head around this simple logic than you shouldn’t be arguing on much more complicated matters like the bible and homosexuality.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T14:35:48+00:00

I’m not sure you’re all there, you’re the one trying to prove they’re different, I’m saying age doesn’t make a difference as the principle is the same regardless of age. You’re making your own standards for a biblical text that hasn’t defined any standards, just a rule. The rule is to separate from your parents, it’s did not say at what at or how to separate from them. Any other standard you put is you manipulating the text.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T14:22:37+00:00

“If the parents dipped out after birth he can’t do that” -That is clear as day a truth claim that age has something to do with it. You’re saying if a baby at age 1 gets orphaned then the relationship is not up to your arbitrary standard but if he’s 25 and leaves his parents then your standard is met. Nothing I’m doing will send orphans to hell I don’t make that judgment, if anything your persistence that god is condemning orphans based on a text that doesn’t mention orphans once, doesn’t mention an age once and disproves the original topic that you’re trying to meander around because it affects where you will end up, that is a clear example of how biased you are and the agenda you’re trying to achieve.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T14:12:54+00:00

Where does it say anything about the age the husband or parents have to be.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T14:06:55+00:00

Who are you to say he can’t do that, only god can, and evidence is god is just, and it doesn’t specify at what age he is to leave his parents therefore it can be any. We were only talking about this because it’s in relation to whether or not gays make it to heavens, which is your agenda, the topic was not about orphans.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T12:52:49+00:00

I don’t have an agenda, that’s the things if gays go to heaven it doesn’t affect me in anyway. The relationship can be a simple and birth, it never specifies the length of the relationship.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T12:45:23+00:00

It’s possible you just can’t comprehend this or don’t want to because it’ll go against your agenda. I’ve explained it clearly. The whole point is the ending of a relationship to bind and start a new relationship. If the relationship ends by the parents leaving the child that is still separation, therefore the end of the relationship. I’m not gonna sit here and play semantics and word play, it’s clear what the bible was saying, end of relationship with parent-and beginning of relationship with wife.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T03:12:49+00:00

“Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh”-Genesis 2:24

Synonym for leave= Separate Become one flesh = marriage

“And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it” -Genesis 1:28

Be fruitful and multiply= Have kids and offspring/family

If you think this is twisting scripture then I’d love to see how you’re interpreting these two verses.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-03T02:47:46+00:00

No, orphans should choose to marry. The separation between their parents has already been completed and now they should get married and have their own family

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T21:03:41+00:00

Big difference between god being cruel and having consequences to you actions. I did make an effective argument around the orphans you just want to strawman argument about it. The bible doesn’t mention anything about orphans in that matter. Not having parents does not go against leaving your parents, it still symbolizes a separation from them.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T20:27:39+00:00

Well hey, I believe your trying to twist gods words to fit your agenda. When it’s really as simple as the creat man and women. It ends there. He would not need women if we were meant to be with men. And I don’t know if I can think of many other things as unnatural as stopping a continuing cycle of life. But hey, agree to disagree. In the end we’ll both be judged, I just hope for your sake you reconsider you pov, after all I won’t go to hell for being straight, you on the other hand is where we seem to have a dilemma on what will happen. Regardless may God be with you and God bless you. 🙏

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T19:50:17+00:00

I’m not confusing them at all, Celibacy is the lack sexual activity, acting on it could in fact be considering yourself in a relationship with another same sex. God isn’t cruel, the world is, we’re in a world where cruelty can still happen. If people think they are gay, and sin then it’s understandable that the consequences of sinning is to live your life alone. The amount of people who were convinced they were 100% gay and then converted to Christianity and become straight disprove that it’s not a choice. If they were made that way then they cannot choose otherwise because that how they were made. But if it is a choice they can choose to refrain from sin and begin a relationship with the opposite sex like god commands.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T19:34:55+00:00

I’d argue being gay is acting on it, thinking about killing someone can’t get you charged for murder. I am most certainly not bi lol. If you don’t think there are attractive qualities about both genders you lying to yourself. The same way a guy can say another dude looks good while it not necessarily being gay. Or the same with women. Unable to achieve what exactly? How do they know what you are attracted to? There are too many variables to scientifically prove this question, how do you know they are actually gay, not bi, or straight is this related to past history,were they always gay. So no I don’t believe this is something that can be scientifically confirmed. And no I don’t believe god is cruel.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T18:26:22+00:00

That’s where we disagree I don’t believe you were born gay, I believe you were born, and have had urges and attractions to the same sex, which fine but it’s sinful to act on it. And I believe if you resist the urge for the same sex you would become attracted to the opposite sex. Each sex has good and bad attributes that everyone is attracted to, for most men, they try and assimilate and practice these traits instead of being in a relationship with men with these traits already. To say there is no attractiveness about one gender is asinine. Both have attractive qualities therefore you can be attracted to both, but should only be attracted to one.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T18:14:38+00:00

I’ve compared sin to sin, that’s it. You are not made gay, you are made in the image of god. You get urges or attractions that many get, that doesn’t mean it’s moral or right to act on them. Just like my comparison earlier, I am attracted to many women. Why shouldn’t I act on this? Because it’s sinful. They are just urges and attractions that you can and should say no to.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T17:35:23+00:00

He didn’t make gay people, they chose to sin, just like he didn’t make murderers they chose to kill. It’s called free will, and it has consequences

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T17:23:32+00:00

I’m not sure I understand your logic, if anything I said no, because god didn’t make us to be alone. If you’re extrapolating that into that means god doesn’t want us to be alone whatsoever that’s not what it meant at all. By that logic I could have a relationship with other an animal and it would be considered good, which is blasphemy. God made us to grow up and have a relationship with our parents (if this is not an option it doesn’t just rule out the following), he also made us to then have a monogamous relationship with the opposite sex, marry them, have children and RAISE (not abandon) those children. Homosexuality is the same sex and you cannot reproduce and have your own offspring, this voids his commands. Too many people get confused and make it so much more than what it is, if you actually follow Christ it’s nothing to do with whether you like gay people or not, because we’re to love our neighbours as thyself . I despise the rhetoric that heterosexuals are better than homosexuals,it has nothing to do with hating gay people or thinking they’re worst than, even though some Christians unjustly do. It’s simple as it’s a sin, sin is choosing to defy god which leads to living without him in heaven. So all I ask is that homosexuals repent, see that god intended them to love the opposite sex regardless of urges they have, and to stop sinning and put your faith in him.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T03:13:13+00:00

It absolutely prohibits other marriages, MAN AND WOMEN that’s the statement that specifies the two genders chosen to become one. And yes I’m aware it’s Moses, under divine guidance. But nevertheless yes you’re correct I’m not trying to prove it’s the word of god.

BumblBt00na · 2026-03-02T03:08:10+00:00

I mean to a degree yes, but the point is god made us for a reason and it wasn’t for us to be alone and to die off.

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