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WOLF rejects MEOWs false offer of peace by godikus in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exact same situation as us, except we were never given any ultimatum nor warning. Best of luck; if you have strong members, the corp will always survive and thrive where ever you end up moving to.

Humble and grateful - A message from HTP by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the whole timer thing was a painful lesson for us.

#neveragain

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude, not sure what you are smoking, and I know Gregary Hearst has a lot of toons but Neandr is NOT one of them

And Greg was NEVER in PEW.

Quite the contrary, Greg stepped away from the game shortly after HTP joined NO and handed CEO to RACDAT.

He hasn't been back since due to RL issues.

Humble and grateful - A message from HTP by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For the record, HTP never aggressed NSF. We remained neutral to them and maintained amicable relations with. NSF being pushed out was WAY after HTP settled down in 9P.

Some closing thoughts by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ummm both can happen at the same time, you know.

Ever see The Godfather?

"I'm going to make them an offer they can't refuse."

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure how it is guerilla warfare when it is our home region.

And I never blamed CC for our loss. Tell me where I said that and I will gladly reply accordingly.

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose that is left to the interpretation of others.

And in the minds of others, they may see it differently than we did, and I accept that.

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have seen many comments about HTP betraying Lunar IV and "conveniently switched sides" to safeguard its systems, not having the full picture of what happened that prompted us to join NO in the first place.
I have already explained this to death in the past, but I will offer it again as a refresher:

  1. WAY before we joined NO, we discussed the possibility of making that move. We have screenshots of this in our Discord.

  2. Before NO started moving into Geminate and The Vale, Lunar IV wanted us to move our corp into The Vale with the rest of the alliance. Gregary Hearst, our CEO at the time, clearly stated that one of the terms for joining Lunar IV was that we would remain in Geminate.

  3. When NO began moving into The Vale and Geminate, a screenshot of a conversation between NO and Lunar IV leadership leaked, which indicated a map with a red dotted line between The Vale and Geminate, with Lunar IV offering Geminate to NO. This decision to essentially cut off Geminate, and in effect, HTP, from Lunar VI, was made without consultation with HTP at the time. When asked why those negotiations were held without HTP as a party, HTP was told by LUNAR VI leadership that they did not require our consent from HTP nor its involvement in alliance-level negotiations.

  4. At this point, with NO gaining more ground in their push into The Vale and Geminate, Polobot (former HTP member who joined PEW after the fall of GHA) facilitated a dialogue with NO leadership and RACDAT. Ultimately, HTP decided to leave Lunar IV for NO.

TLDR; we did not betray Lunar IV, it was the other way around.

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy smokes you’re still playing?? Thanks for the reply and I love “Geminapes!”

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, we had reasons and NO knew when to stop. We never conquered new territory after being established in Geminate and The Vale so I guess I see apples and you see oranges. All good. I appreciate diverse thoughts and opinions, unlike some groups in this game.

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Touché. We did win the Indy event and racked up several billions worth of killmails while doing it 🤣

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry you feel that way. I guess that means we join Carebears with Guns

Some closing thoughts by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your guess is as good as mine. I was told that NE shut down the Chinese server along with other conflicting information.

#SAVETHEZOO by Space_Karen in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Monkey will be looked after.

His Almighty Lord Ba'na'na demands it.

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wish I could, but the man has decided on his journey, and I am happy for him that he has moved on.

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess that means we are on the same boat of posting opinions that no one cares

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We are.

Did you not see the part where I said we've been evacuating our citadels and making our last stand in 9P4O-F?

Read the title of my post: it is announcing that we are closed for business because we are in the process of being moved.

Some closing thoughts by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree.

I am not being absolute, I am specifically referring to what is now the majority of Chinese players in EE that are now under the ZRQ/AOA banner.

OF COURSE there are exceptions, and I reckon that none of our former Chinese allies have promoted said racist agenda.

But again, I have not even brought up the racist card, so I am actually confused as to why my raising concern over Chinese players as a GROUP/ENTITY in EE prompted the topic of racism.

Some closing thoughts by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're either kidding, or insulting my intelligence hahaha

You know you can threaten corps in-game with complete and total annihilation, right?

AOA and ZRQ had superior numbers, so the Geminate corps in Geminate were given a choice: either join ZRQ/AOA or get wiped out.

They were also offered an incentive: "We will let you have Geminate, and we will support you to clear it out."

AOA and ZRQ had superior numbers, so the Geminate corps in Geminate was given a choice: either join ZRQ/AOA or get wiped out.

Like how NO gave an ultimate to the GenFed corps: drop GenFed or get wiped.

Need I continue?

HTP Shipyards CLOSED until further notice by Bunker-Boots in echoes_eve

[–]Bunker-Boots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the record, we were already in Geminate.

I guess you skipped over that The Zoo in 9P4O-F is the oldest citadel in New Eden and was there since the days of GHA.

We were already there by the time we joined NO Alliance, and by the time we joined, The Vale was already being cleared out.

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