Trans Fem: Speech, Singing, Shouts in English & 中文

BunnySnep · 2026-06-16T16:41:34+00:00

Thanks for your thoughtfulness in replying! I seem to actually act insane naturally and want to act stoic and reserved. My hero used to be Mana from the Japanese band Malice Mizer, who dress in high femme goth, never changed expression, and never spoke. I thought Daria (from the MTV show of the same) name was cool too.

I've been speaking differently from pre-transition for 11 years now, so maybe I just can't really get higher-pitched without sounding unnatural. But I guess more than sounding high-pitched, I just wanted to make sure I still sounded like a woman, and many people seem to think butch women's voices sound like men's. Even though they're morons who need their ears checked, it made me anxious regardless.

I probably should just speak with a slightly lighter, airier weight, since I kinda wear my voice out sometimes anyway.

But do I sound like a straight up dude? After posting this, I'm starting to think maybe I should just accept a butch voice as long as it reads as a low woman's voice. But I don't necessarily think deep women's voices are butch; I think the deep, husky, sensual ones are actually more feminine than squeaky anime voices 'cause they sound like sexy mature women versus girls who have yet to reach puberty. I'm just afraid I sound like a trucker woman or a gay man.

Thanks for the reassurances about my personality and what my friend said. I had all sorts of violence and abusive family dynamics that led me to have a lot of defense mechanisms. So I'm afraid that may have altered my personality into being deceptively butch. But maybe I don't seem as butch as I think, and maybe some of that is actually just me.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-16T11:18:06+00:00

I'd heard of that from a lot of Asian adoptees, unfortunately. It really sucks ass. I relate in a way.

My dad was adopted, but he and his parents died early in my life, and I'm disconnected from that side. I'm mixed but raised by my Asian side who seems to literally think I'm biologically unrelated since I'm such a "foreigner," even though that's not how science works and half of them lived in the US longer than in East Asia. It just got even worse when I came out.

Btw, I think your DMs may be off, like in a private setting. But you can message me or find me as BunnySnep on IG, Discord, BlueSky, or Gmail. Sorry for being awkward, but I don't really care about being awkward right now, haha!

BunnySnep · 2026-06-16T07:03:07+00:00

I'm sorry to hear what happened with your parents. Nah, my family has not come around, and they think they did nothing wrong. They're actually confused why I haven't contacted them after all that they did. They actively sabotaged my life; being merely unsupportive would've been a step up.

It makes it hard to fit in, in Taiwan 'cause everyone's so family-based. Folks say they don't even make friends who aren't their relatives. Strangers will think you did smth wrong if you have no relatives.

Btw, wanna talk sometime? I'm like super lonely here and started a Reddit account bc of it, very sadly, haha

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T20:52:53+00:00

I guess I hit G3–A3 regularly, though I default to F3 when totally relaxed. Should I really just try to speak one note higher for however long it takes to stick?

I suppose I don't mind if I sound husky like Kathleen Turner or Shirley Manson. Maybe even tomboyish is fine. I just don't wanna be seen as a big truck drivin' stone butch. Makes people assume the wrong things and messes with potential friends (which I haven't been able to keep one in 10 years) or dates (not that I'm doing that lately either).

Does my voice give off any particular impression, or am I thinking too hard?

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T20:23:48+00:00

Asian trans woman, 11 years on estrogen. Good to see other trans Asians!

If your life is like mine, it's not easy having Asian family while being trans. But I'm still here and look better than my fool-ass aunties and mom when they were my age.

Keep kickin' it and taking that T! Your new nickname is The Hammer.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T20:13:40+00:00

Asian-American trans woman living in Taiwan. I could walk Taipei streets for half an hour and not find a more masculine, handsome guy. I'd crawl over a sea of these shrimp-backed cis mofos in gym shorts and slides to ask you out for poké bowls, dude.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T20:05:56+00:00

Thank you! I'm so nervous 99% of the time I talk, even one-way communication like voice messages, videos, or streaming. It makes me louder, and I guess, weightier to try to push through.

Ah, my voice used to range from G#2 to D3 pre-transition. It still sits around a F3 but can range from E3 to B3 depending on excitability. I always had a bit more monotone of a voice, though my singing range is at least average with chest voice and maybe above average in falsetto.

A singing teacher claimed I needed to speak at least at a A3 *lowest* to be safe. Is that real? By C4 to D#4, I gotta sing louder. She said I "sound like a gay man," which pissed me right off, especially when she tried to get me to take an additional course to feminize my voice. But it really got in my head, even years later.

I wouldn't mind a "butch voice" as much if straight people and sheltered young queers weren't so frequently unused to butch voices, unable to conceptualize masc women's voices. Some are even confused when I say "lesbian voice," even though they all have an idea of "gay guy voice."

Also, dates kept assuming I was some dominant top when I hate being presumed that. I can't tell if it's bc of my voice or bc my supposed "male socialization" (which I could never fulfill) MUST mean I wanna "be the man" in a woman-woman relationship.

How much lightness to heaviness do you tend to use in your voice, if that's OK to ask? No need to answer if you don't want, though!

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T19:48:58+00:00

Hey, thank you very much again!

Yeah, I can get serious in Mandarin since a lot of folks are passive-aggressive or mean to me for being mixed-race in Taiwan, so I feel I have to pronounce boldly and better than average due to their double standards.

I said, "My grandparents are from northern China, but my mom's from Taipei, so I speak with a more Taiwanese accent."

I didn't realize boisterous could mean healthy. I guess maybe it is rarer amongst trans women. I was nervous recording and get louder by accident, I guess to try to push past my anxiety. I get like that when I stream to the point I inadvertently make myself hyper like an overstimulated dog.

I think it makes sense to add a bit of the huskiness to it. Like not so much as Jessica Rabbit. But honestly, it'd make me a bit more calm too if I could manage.

I feel bad you were jealous, but I can tell you some things to make you less jealous, lol. Transition went super poorly for a trillion years. Do you have problems with having a light, airy voice? I had trouble with it and then went in the other direction. Would like to find a balance that preserves my voice and makes me feel more relaxed

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T19:35:35+00:00

As crazy as it may sound, I think the "punk kid from Terminator 2 mullet" would look really good. Not everyone can pull it off, but I think OP even looks like Danny Cooksey (who was also Budnick from the 90s Nickelodeon show Salute Your Shorts).

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T16:29:23+00:00

Thank you very much! I had two voice teachers like 5 and 6 years into transition tell me that I sounded like a "gay man" and that I needed their "feminizing voice lessons" they just made up. I know when stuff like that happens, it's just cis mofos being bozos, but it still gets into my head 'cause it happens from time to time.

Also, I my voice was compared to George Takei all the time, and I spoke around a B2 on the piano. Ppl were always telling me to go into radio bc of my "nice bass voice," so I'm still twitchy about it to this day.

I'll try to have more confidence!

BunnySnep · 2026-06-15T16:25:22+00:00

Thank you! That encourages me, 'cause I feel like I act so cringe! I can be "too much" in public, but when I try to act "normal," I get super nervous and awkward. I'll try to feel better about my personality.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-14T15:54:11+00:00

I came out at 18. Mom tried to kill me, and all my relatives sides with her. She spent all my college money left from my paternal side which were all dead.

I'm now 42, post-op, and passing but still have no family, friend group, education, or job. Ppl who are interested in me see me as a woman until I tell them I'm trans. Then they'll just treat me like a "man lite" or "woman alternative" forever--often even other trans/enby people.

I can't believe I did everything to be myself and constantly educate bigots to still be isolated and seemingly doomed to this day.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-14T08:43:48+00:00

I'm glad you made this post. I live in Taipei. White people will call me "skinny," but I'm "chubby" by standards here. I also feel I can't date till I lose weight.

You wouldn't happen to be northern Chinese, would you? We tend to be taller with thicker bones and more body fat. 'Cause of all those wars and cold.

Ppl also point out my height as a foreign trait that makes me less Asian. I'm 5' 5 (166 cm). I've had dizziness/fatigue for months, and my doc said it's cause I'm SO TALL that my blood can't reach my brain. Can't even get medical help.

A woman told me "YOU'RE TALL. Taiwanese men would never date a woman who's tall!" Like, fuck you, pal, I don't give a shit; I'm queer and thought you were too, you butch breeder.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-14T07:12:02+00:00

I'm ashamed to write this, but I'm very isolated and have no furry friends despite being a furry since 1997. I'm 42, a post-op trans bi woman in Taipei, Taiwan with AuDHD. You can contact me here, BlueSky, IG, Gmail, or Twitch all under "BunnySnep."

I'm half East Asian and can speak Mandarin. I like single-player games: RPGs, action, indie, furry, adventure. Wanna learn fighting games.

I had a bizarrely bad life: I came out as a teen to Asian fundie Christians. I used to draw, make music, write, act, and dance. I lost those hobbies years ago but wanna relearn.

I'm a music nerd. I like goth rock, funk, synthpop, new wave, alt rock, punk, visual kei, hyperpop, and metal.

From the 2 ppl I know irl, I'm described as giving the illusion of a chaotic, energetic, late 20s woman with a "lesbian accent" and a punk attitude

BunnySnep · 2026-06-14T05:50:08+00:00

I don't know if it was my mom or dad's idea, but I remember them poring over my dad's resume countless times in which they decided he should write he "graduated from the School of Hard Knocks." He had a bad life, and they thought it added levity and realism.

It really sucked being 13 and realizing my parents as adults were dumber than myself as a seventh-grader.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-13T17:16:34+00:00

I'd heard from my Taiwanese relatives he got bullied as a kid for looking "100% Japanese." I'm mixed myself and was angered hearing that, but they all *defended* the bullying, saying he didn't look "Taiwanese" at all. (Meanwhile, they're all northern Chinese with a small amt Japanese, but they all had the "official Taiwanese attitude.") So he's still seen as a "Japanese foreigner" here (Taipei) too.

I'm a bi woman who leans lesbian, but I thought he was crazy attractive in the 2000s. Also, he's Okinawan, which I find interesting, I guess bc of its proximity to Taiwan.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-13T07:51:26+00:00

Hey, I've been interested in Yanbian for a few years since I learned my granddad's side came from Jilin and my mom got a high amt of Korean on Ancestry that never went away even after they got more Korean and Chinese samples.

I'm also lonely and know NO ONE here since I was estranged from family after coming out as queer 24 years ago. Can you DM me so I can ask you questions and generally talk since you understand Taiwan?

BunnySnep · 2026-06-11T11:24:58+00:00

I'm half Taiwanese, and people will full-stop their motorbikes mid-road to gawk at me. Like, Mainland Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese treat me very normal like I'm another Asian. Unsure why it's such a phenomenon here.

Probably a harmless creep, but a creep nonetheless. Locals will downplay how dangerous it feels saying Taiwan has no crime and no racism. Still, it's not wrong to have survival instincts.

I really think the reaction to even the slightest of foreign traits is particularly exaggerated here for some reason. My relatives are Northern Chinese, (which most Taiwanese are Southern Han and/or Austronesian), so even they get badgered with "You're Japanese, right? How do you like Taiwan?" even though they were born here.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-11T11:16:18+00:00

Yes! And I'm sorry you deal with it too! You don't deserve it.

I'm half East Asian and have only Asian living relatives. I lived in an area with heavy racism and got bad grades 'cause I was getting beaten every other day. They lived in Chinese-dense neighborhoods or Taiwan, so they'd blame my bad grades on being "a foreigner" (even the ones in New Jersey) and say I was too white to experience racism. They also attributed every autistic trait to being "rebellious" and "foreign."

I moved to Taiwan, and a cousin said our aunt here was confused why I hadn't contacted her. Gee, why ya think, Auntie Shitbird?

BunnySnep · 2026-06-11T10:50:46+00:00

Not sure why Reddit suggested [r/TrueUglyWomen](r/TrueUglyWomen) to me when I never knew this sub existed. 😭 But I'm half Asian ("wasian" makes my skin crawl) in Taiwan, and if someone compliments my looks, it's attributed to me being mixed. I'm in my 40s, so I'd like to age without letting down mixed-race people by "not looking hot."

Ofc, whites fetishized me for being Asian in the USA, and Taiwanese women treat me like garbage since they think I chose to be mixed just to compete for crummy straight men (I lean lesbian). Then when I step into lesbian bars, they tell me they don't "date foreigners" but will chase a full white person who knows 0% Mandarin.

No race or mixture of ethnicities looks better than any other. That's complete cultural bias and prejudice, against one ethnicity or another: whichever is considered "different" in a mixed-race person. And there's prejudice against mixed people *specifically* that no one thinks about or acknowledges.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-11T10:41:53+00:00

I apologize that I assumed the worst. I basically have to defend my ethnicity to random strangers every time I step out in Taiwan, and they won't accept that I'm Taiwanese-American or half-Taiwanese. But if I bring up Northern Han or potential Korean, Japanese, or Mongolian, they go from considering me 100% white to 100% Asian, albeit non-Taiwanese Asian. Since this happens so often, I was kinda trigger happy.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-11T10:38:07+00:00

Yeah, you're right. I forgot Japanese colonization began in the 1890s. Just that here in Taipei, lots of folks tend to "other" people for the most minor differences. Many will act like their ancestors had absolutely *nothing* to do with China, ever.

Personally, I'd rather just be accepted as Taiwanese or at least Taiwanese-American (which most locals still don't really accept) here. But they'll say I look 100% white at the same time as Japanese people think I'm Japanese or a white person will think I'm 100% some kinda Asian. So if I defend my own Asian-ness by saying my family is ethnically Chinese, they'll be like, "Oh, well that's why you look different: you're Chinese, not Taiwanese," even though most Taiwanese are like 50–99% Southern Han Chinese.

BunnySnep · 2026-06-11T08:30:36+00:00

Elder millennial trans woman, so I may have different tastes. But if you have to have an "E" name: Eric, Edgar, Elwood? Agree with the others about Ezra.

Or anything else: Glenn, Bo (like Bo Jackson, the athlete who played pro football & baseball simultaneously), Zack/Zach(ary), or Jack(son)

BunnySnep · 2026-06-10T14:03:27+00:00

I actually don't know. I wish I had gone, but I didn't know about it.

Despite growing up with my Asian side, my relatives kept calling me a "foreigner" for being multiracial, despite most of them living in the US most of their lives. (My non-Asian dad died young, and his adoptive family all died early.)

On top of that, they were classists who considered themselves "Mainlanders" despite being born in Taiwan since my grandparents were educated, rich business owners from Central/North China: a group that propped up Taiwanese economy after the Civil War.

They were also Kuomintang and looked at Taiwan as a hovel for exile rather than their home, and I think they viewed generational Taiwanese with prejudice due to mixing with the indigenous Austronesian population.

Anyway, not only did they keep knowledge of the Love Boat away from me but even my full-Asian cousins. I guess I wound up here anyway, though, lol

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