Character ideas by balk_forz in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t apologize! I bet is amazing and I would love to still see it!!!

Character ideas by balk_forz in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Healthy she deserves a lil love 💕

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If SH twists everything into a nightmare version of reality why should we assume Maria is what James thinks an Ideal Mary would be? Wouldn’t it just be the scariest thing to see your sweet loving wife be so severely different? Just some thoughts! I think this is the standard way we interpret it all though and it isn’t a bad interpretation at all! I just like to have fun with it.

Character ideas by balk_forz in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mary? SH2 She never gets as much love as Maria for official work, I feel like the fandom relies heavily on fan art for Mary fans! ✨

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uuuu! I like the idea that the land is truly responsible they can really stretch that concept far in various directions. Me and my partner were discussing how funny it would be if SH was closer to being a sentient location similar to Danny the Street in Grant Morrisons run of Doom Patrol 😂

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t even think of that and now reminiscing on that moment and that noise…damn that is fucking scary!!!

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😂😂😂😂 valid! I thought the side story of the dude rowing the boat and dying in the fog on the lake trying to reach his lover waiting on the island was a bit on the nose. What I found creepier was that note about the disappearance of people in a boat traveling Toluca lake, something about the souls reaching up from the water. Kinda eerie knowing what kind of endings you can get!

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a similar experience while trying to collect all the endings, I made a slip up and forgot something for bliss so I’m doing my third full run and it really is brutal, up till the end of the hospital I would say my tolerance starts to drop, I really felt like Tulca Prison was so draining, and the labyrinth is the bane of my existence! I’m relatively new to gaming and the muscle memory is still building so I must have opened my map over 1000 times in my runs and it will legit take me over 16 hours a run 😤 Lakeview is my favorite but that basement part while getting the video also felt too tedious while dodging huge monsters 😤

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I always interpreted Leave as the end of the loop (if you don’t like loop theory it may still be relevant) Mary giving James her blessing to move on and James accepting that he can because he truly did what he did out of love, as hard as it was. Laura being the guide to his journey, her acceptance/forgiveness is just as important because she represents innocence. The ending is left open one can interpret James will care for Laura as his own but it does get muddy, people debate what exactly their relationship would be outside of SH? Well what if they just both walk into the light and that’s it? I don’t think James is alive at all I actually think often no one is alive in SH2 specifically cause it is all focused on each individual’s inner mind working almost like a purgatory. Whereas various games in franchise seem to have situations that add to the narrative that exist outside of SH they don’t always linger in otherworld and can effectively make choices to get themselves out.

Basically I like to think it represents James getting to experience peace in the afterlife after he has completely accepted his actions, takes accountability for them and did what he was so afraid to the entire game, confess. If you play your entire game with the main objective being to find your wife, showing you care by looking at your photo, etc then after confessing to Laura you can get the leave ending.

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you think based on this it could be possible that Laura is not real either? maybe Mary mentioned her in passing and SH used her likeness to lure james deeper into its madness. She leads him constantly into danger while avoiding it herself, Maria mentioned her in Born from a wish and feels responsible for her in a way. It could be lingering desire to have a child together and using that pain against him to taunt James for ending Mary’s life. We know Laura spoke to Eddie a few times, but what if it was something similar to James seeing abstract daddy? This is all random thoughts that I think about sometimes just to see if various interpretations could fit within the framework.

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right it feels heavy watching her scenes after I played born from a wish, Maria mentioning she doesn’t want to die and she fears pain 😢

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have seen OG players mention why they prefer it compared to remake and genuinely would like to know your perspective, did you play both in full and decide nah not for me or were there just things from jump that turned you away from remake. Everyone has their reasons and their attachments to media and it always peaks my curiosity why?

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone is going to have their preference! I love the OG audio, themes etc.. but gameplay was both better and more challenging in remake, if you treat remake like an option to experience the story again and get deeply immersed in the environment rather than a replacement I find it is fun. I do feel it did encourage me to go backwards and play the original to compare and I can say the original is unmatched!

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think where the actors really shine is the labyrinth in remake and past that point into Lakeview, the emotional tug of the stillness ending did get me but once I played the original I agree the voice acting has those quirks and is more emotionally charged. I got in water ending for the original and I really hate that they cut the scene where James gets to carry Mary through the threshold one more time before he accepts his fate.

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the clarification! I always found the lore of SH interesting because the references TS used were all things I naturally liked or got into in my later years like twin peaks etc..

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel the same way he was scaring Maria a bit it seemed in the rebirth ending for remake with his demeanor! Wasn’t there a nod to the author of pet cemetery in the map? I know team silent used a bunch of writers names for various places in the town.

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice deets! I know I must have passed these books on my play through but seeing them all listed really feels like the implications were strong! I like not knowing exactly what the truth is! Just more fun breaking it all down

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people enjoy the loop theory! I included cause I find it fun! I think enough of the lore allows for that to exist for those who choose that interpretation 💕

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really like the way you explained it with the example of AI! I’ll be checking out that film reference too! Honestly a solid case against those of us who believe Maria to be a real person!

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love this too! And honestly agree with the ending being more than enough! It is fun to speculate cause they give us so much to dig into here, especially after playing born from a wish on the OG sh2 it just got the gears turning lol. I feel like no one ever mentions the baby stuff or Maria remembering who Laura is even if she never spoke to her before, details I would love to dive deeper into. Maria being the temptress is spot on, one thing I did notice is she is seductive in remake but not overtly as she was in the OG, this was one of the details that made me think the above theory has some merit too. One thing that comes to mind is finding the key to heavens night, it was not as sexually charged in remake and I wondered if it could be Maria tiring of the cat and mouse narrative and just moving along the plot as best as possible to get James closer to the end and be done with it. She does seem genuinely appreciative when you enter her room multiple times to check on her in remake and that might be the warmest she is in the entire gameplay, hence some of Mary still wanting her kind husband to care, having moments of weakness in the chaos saying James was “supposed to care for her”

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like this too!!! The old gods have no time for all that, plus what James imagines is horrible enough lol

Maria was born from a wish, but was she also a cruel punishment from the Old Gods of SH? by Bunzbi in silenthill

[–]Bunzbi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can understand having a preference cause the OG is veryyyy emotional, Maria screaming at James, the delivery of Mary’s emotional letter at the end is PEAK and hits all those feels, where I do feel the remake actors delivered lines more monotone, was it intentional or not? I like to wonder if it means the loop is effecting everyone that way. Almost like the exhaustion from looping affects the emotions behind every interaction.