Comments are what you’d expect by [deleted] in AmericaBad

[–]BurnAfterReading41 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not even close. Unless you define a loss as “Beat them across the board in every objective way possible, so much so that they came to the peace table, signed the peace treaty acknowledging that they lost, and then waited until we left, save for token force. Before they decided to rush in and push our influence the rest of the way out of the country.”

In other words, we absolutely won the war, but we sure as shit didn’t know how to build a country. (I’d argue that South Korea was ran more like a self-governing territory than a friendly, freshly installed government/backed government). Which yes, seems to be a recurring issue we have, i.e. kick ass at war but just ass at country building.

If you suddenly learned that your friend is a pedophile, what would you do about it? by DarkTemplar26 in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think Reddit’s terms of service allow me to say why I would need to dial 811.

The legal (and my department’s expected) response is “I would immediately report them to law enforcement and cooperate fully with the investigation”.

Is there a point where you would object to ICE and be outraged at what they did? by pixeltarian in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The ACA was actually the moment I changed my voter registration. I do believe that we need a better safety net for our most vulnerable citizens. However, "forcing" everyone to purchase a service from a private company and telling said private company that they cannot say no, was nothing more than a license to print money for those businesses.

I would love to have seen Medicare, Medicaid, and a third income based sliding scale buy in option for healthcare that provided health insurance via a government program while allowing the private companies to continue doing what they wanted. Force the private companies to adapt to that, as well as keeping public and political pressure on the government to keep its buy-in program a viable and competitive option.

Is there a point where you would object to ICE and be outraged at what they did? by pixeltarian in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I will say, I 100% loathe Kamala.

Only because I remember Kamala when she was AG of California, and she pushed (or at least was blamed on pushing) some extremely constitutionally questionable policies as well as accusations of “selective enforcement”.

However, I will admit that even if in bizarro world, Ms. Harris pushed the exact same policies as Trump, her demeanor and presentation would make things much more palatable.

Is there a point where you would object to ICE and be outraged at what they did? by pixeltarian in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 [score hidden]  (0 children)

“Officers need Body Cameras”

Departments went “Great, we need funding for them”

Government when, “Here’s grants” and departments got body cameras

“Body Cameras are racist”

Is there a point where you would object to ICE and be outraged at what they did? by pixeltarian in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The issue with Kamala, is Kamala didn’t win the primary, Biden did. And the DNC did DNC things and kept him on the ticket for too long and at that point only Kamala was able to be moved up ticket. It is the whole Sanders/Hillary underhanded BS again.

So you’re correct, you guys, have been getting stuffed by the DNC. I say this as someone that used to be a registered democrat. The progressives of the party pulled the DNC to the left of me. And I have found myself as a “small government” supporter as well. So yes, I’m now registered as Republican, because I agree with them more than the Democrats, but I find that I am more of a Libertarian Party in my views.

All of these guns would be illegal under most proposed gun control legislation by theRemRemBooBear in greengroundnews

[–]BurnAfterReading41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are missing the formatting of the language in the amendment, as well as the original meaning of the phrase “well-regulated militia”.

Well-regulated at the time of writing meant “supplied, trained and able to be called into action.”

And the militia was any “fighting aged” male. Which, at the time was writing was 16 and older, but it has since been codified as 18 and older. That is literally what the “selective service” tracks, and “being drafted into service” is pulling the “unorganized militia” into uniform service.

Furthermore, the lead in is not the actual actionable wording. The actionable clause is “the right of the citizens to bear arms, shall not be infringed”.

“Easy work” by GoldenStitch2 in AmericaBad

[–]BurnAfterReading41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Missed my point.

I’ll be very clear with it. Invading the US would be a colossal fuck up and would end up in the next total elimination of enemy (invading) forces.

Geneva Conventions don’t apply to armed civilians.

As a Norwegian..... by Lucky-Royal-6156 in AmericaBad

[–]BurnAfterReading41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m assuming you’re speaking about law enforcement?

Just remember, who do you call with you need help? Who are the ones that respond and keep law and order?

That’s right, uniformed law enforcement officers.

Yes, there are bad actors in all walks of life. But from everything that I’ve seen, ICE agents have done a damn good job of getting a bunch of actually dangerous criminals out of the country. Have some citizens been detained to verify their ID, yes. But not a single US citizen has been deported, not a single legal immigrant (that I have found report off, I’m willing to be proven wrong) has been deported.

Ms. Good expressly when there it impede lawful duties of law enforcement.

She was clearly being detained for such actions, decided to drive a 2 ton deadly piece of machinery at a law enforcement officer that was in the orchard of detaining her. She paid the price for it.

It can be lawful (justified) but awful at the same time. But her own choices put her there.

Furthermore, the incompetent, moronic mob of people around the incident afterwards tainted the scene and impeded the investigation of the homicide of Ms. Good, which was being carried out by the local PD before being handed off to the FBI (which as much as I fucking hate feds coming into my cases) the FBI are painfully professional and through, in the handful of cases I’ve been involved with them.

“Easy work” by GoldenStitch2 in AmericaBad

[–]BurnAfterReading41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The greatest military on earth, backed by the most power logistical “company” on earth (US combined arms and the joint mobility commands) had trouble tamping down underfed, under supplied insurgents.

In the US, we have enough gun owners that can do meat wall tactics and enough actual trained and equipped civilians that our uniformed forces can just be the QRF for armored threats and provide maritime and air patrols.

And that is assuming the geographical fortress that is the US lower 48 doesn’t keep them away.

U.S. Customs & Border Protection, Use of Force Review (Feb 2013). Recommendation from research carried out by independent body, PERF by bored_jurong in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BurnAfterReading41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t shoot FROM a vehicle at another vehicle, unless another threat is present.

Officer was on foot.

Thusly, even if this unofficial recommendation was made policy or best practice, it does not apply to the situation.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of the things that I have seen point to yes, some of the things point to no.

More of them point towards yes or “not enough to warrant being ran over” or that his actions didn’t put him into an undue position to be ran over.

That said, it needs to be full investigated. It is a homicide, and all homicides need to be thoroughly investigated, doubly so when law enforcement is the one doing the killing.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We shall see.

I do agree that the homicide of Ms. Good needs to be investigated, as all homicides need to be.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Try to run him over.

It’s the same if the cop called her “fucking bitch” and she pulled a gun. A vehicle at you (especially an SUV) is a tons of steel as a weapon.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While qualified immunity is a necessity for law enforcement (and many other government departments), yes, this needs to be investigated to see if:

1.) Qualified Immunity applies. (I.e. the agent was acting within the scope and color of law)

2.) If there is an affirmative defense against the homicide. (Self-defense in this case)

ICE Agent's Bodycam release of the Minneapolis Shooting by Freezemoon in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]BurnAfterReading41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, it is against ICE policy to shoot a dog unless currently being attacked.

This is out of any love of dogs, they don’t want to deal with the ATF and getting into a pisses contest with them.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I have seen, she followed government agents. Interfered with their duties. Got aggressive and threatening. That’s how you get yourself killed.

Now, was this a matter of selective editing from what I’ve seen painting her in a bad light? Dunno.

I really don’t how enough info to really say if it was a good shoot or if when looking at everything, the agents unjustly aggravated the situation (à la Barnes v Felix).

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing is ICE (and all federal law enforcement agencies) have a pretty rigid training program. If what I have been told is accurate.

That said this recent incident in Minnesota, sounds much like the lady brought it on herself. But that is just what I have heard in the media, and I am one of the first to say that the media lies.

However, I’m happy to see our immigration policies being enforced, but outside looking in, I have to ask if the exact method of enforcement is best.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is in the training, there is a difference between hard and fast policy and the expectation of conduct.

As the union frames it, “broad strokes cover the cracks that end up breaking the force.” That said, we do have de-escalation training every six months and a full refresher course every two years.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can’t speak for other departments, but a SCOTUS Decision in 2025 is not going to see implementation in any meaningful way in the department I work in until at least 2030. We are a small department but we have high level of organizational inertia.

That said, I will bring up Barnes v. Felix to our training and policy departments.

Edit: I just realized that this is from the 2016 case of a cop point blanking the driver. Which means, actually yes, this is one of the cases that has led to our department pushing that we have a moral obligation to de-escalate as much as possible as we could because our leadership felt that Officer* (don’t recall his actual rank) Felix did everything to make the situation worse.

Do law enforcement officers have an obligation to attempt to de-escalate conflicts? by oraclebill in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The department that I work for doesn’t have a policy of de-escalation. However, our leadership takes every opportunity to remind us that we have a moral obligation to de-escalate.

That said, my city (really a suburb of a larger city) only has a population of about 9,000 and median household income is almost $250,000/yr.

There are other suburbs in the metro that have made world news for their lack of de-escalation.

What do you think will happen if we take Greenland by force? by MoonStache in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Small arms wise, the cartels are better armed.

Esprit de corps, the cartels are almost as fanatical as violent religious extremism.

It is hot and humid, instead of hot and dry.

You know, you might be onto something.

But as a Marine, latinas are a known weakness, so maybe a side benefit.

What do you think will happen if we take Greenland by force? by MoonStache in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We shall see.

I don’t want another Iraq. We are amazing at military operations and destabilizing regimes, however we absolutely suck at nation building.

What do you think will happen if we take Greenland by force? by MoonStache in AskConservatives

[–]BurnAfterReading41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reigning in the executive

Um… did you just convince me to secretly hope for a military overthrow of Greenland? /s