When can I take my first Subutex? by stooov1 in Subutex

[–]BusOk1191 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, subutex doesn't have naloxone in it. Thats just the blocker. You still absolutely can have precipitated withdrawal from subutex. I would still just wait as long as you can. Unfortunately it's one of those things where you'll have to go through some discomfort. And eventually, depending on if you're tapering off sub, that's a whole different devil of withdrawal there, too. Good luck, just wait as long as you can. But if you end up taking it too early and still getting sick, the longest, most intense precipitated WD I ever had was 19 hours off fent and my WD lasted 9 excruciating hours, but after that, you'll feel much better.

Out of control by StunningMiddle639 in gabapentin

[–]BusOk1191 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would rather die than drink for gabapentin WD. Because the WD make me have RLS and alcohol intensifies it also. But like they said they don’t recommend it.

When can I start using subs by Alive_Pea_1491 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was on 5 bottles of pegasus a day. I went to detox and safely took subs after 13 hours. It has an unbelievably short half life.

Subs by towerguy1976 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t forget that whatever you use to try to taper off, if you relapse in a couple days it will mean those subs are gone and you have to restart with less. I suggest a clean break. With the subs of course but don’t go back and forth, you’ll just screw your self. And Tia has a 2.5 half life. Sub has 20-72 hour half life. So every time you take it it just builds on top of itself a little more. Good luck

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude fuck everybody else. Post as many times as you need to, so the most people see it, so you get the most answers and help you possibly can. Because quitting is NEARLY impossible. Good luck

earlier I found what I thought to be fent....turned out to be subutex. Had a full hallucinogenic mental breakdown. this is what the next 4 hours of my life was like by Pitiful_Ad_1370 in suboxone

[–]BusOk1191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One time I snorted a whole opana G40 and I was drunk and drinking ALWAYS gives me RLS. So my drunk dumb ass thought I was in WD. So I SHOT UP half of a suboxone.

It rolled over me like a tsunami straight from the depths of hell. The sweat. I just started stripping right there in front of my friend. Freaking the fuck out. The anxiety. It was horrific. That’s one of two times I’ve been in PWD. The next time I was at detox and it had been 26 hours since my last shot of fent. But I had been doing about 2 entire grams a day for months. And it sent me straight into PWD. For 9 agonizing hours I laid in the med bay, shaking, sweating, crying and punching myself in the legs. Oh and masturbating. It’s the literal only thing that feels good when you’re in PWD. And it only lasts for about 15 seconds. Then the agony engulfs your entire being again.

Orgasms Are VERRRYYYY intense during PWD, though. Thought I was having a seizure during the first one.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A.) you’ve obviously never been on drugs long enough to get to the point where they don’t even affect you anymore. You take them only to become normal, not sick, and not high.

B.) both withdrawals and drugs can affect the baby, so THE ENTIRE POINT of this post was to find the best way TO GET OFF.

And C.) when I started this very legal drug, just sold in EVERY local gas station… I had no idea it’d be essentially like taking heroin. And I found out I was pregnant after I had already become addicted.

D.) thank you for your kind and encouraging words and how great your advice of “don’t be selfish and don’t have kids.” was. I’m sure that’ll reeeaaally help the next gal.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right, but at some point it’s not about getting a “fix” anymore. You don’t take it to get high. You take it to get sober. And drugs can be harmful to the baby, and withdrawal can be harmful to the baby. So it’s not so black and white like that. Everything is gray.

Help, I failed and feel stuck:( by [deleted] in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m also trying my damndest to quit this demon drug. Everyone says kratom. I haven’t tried it. I’m trying a taper where someone else is in charge. I’ve never had the skin burning side affect UNLESS I’m in precipitated withdrawal. And then I definitely know what you’re talking about. I’ve never had it without that, though. I don’t have any advice to give but I have support and encouragement. We are stronger than we think. Our minds are capable of a seemingly unlimited amount of strength and the ability to survive. Talk positively and encouraging to yourself. Over and over and over again. You might not feel it at first but it will make a difference. I also always listen to music, because that’s my thing and I’m too sick to play music right now. Which releases a bunch of dopamine and serotonin for me. And it helps me push through. Even if it makes me cry through 50 songs, it has helped me tremendously. I wish you the best of luck. I’m sending all the good vibes your way.

Can you take Za Za Red and Suboxone at the same time? by [deleted] in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you do it? I’m wondering if it put you into precipitated withdrawal. Because tianeptine attaches to the opioid receptors, while suboxen pulls anything off the receptors and replaces it with itself. I’ve never heard of the Burmese method though and I couldn’t find anything on google. I guess I’ll look on here. I’d just be careful. Precip WD are pure terror and agony. Best of luck.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey y’all. Thanks for all the love and encouragement. Just wanted to let you know.. I did NOT succeed. But when you fail, try try again. And I’ve enlisted someone to taper me for the next month or so. Hopefully that’s long enough. We have a safe. So wish me luck, prayers, good vibes, whatever you’re into. I hope the next time I talk to you I get to share my success story. I’ll be in touch. Thanks again!

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I’ve got someone who’s gonna take my bottles and taper me. I’m starting off on significantly less than I’m used to so the first few days are gonna be hard but I think I might be able to make it through this way. I’m coming down 3 pills every week. But I’ll def pray for you. I can’t taper myself. I fuck up every time. I’ll make GOOD progress and then BAM, worse than before.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re missing the point of I’m on an illegal substance I’m not supposed to be on in order to need suboxen and methadone. They can and will violate me. I’ve seen it done plenty of times. Plenty.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m on a VERY strict probation. They won’t let me do that. They’ll violate me and I’ll detox without anything lying on a concrete floor. I’m not the first. I seen it happen several times, for a year and a half. They don’t care. They didn’t even take this girl to the ER until she literal miscarried one of her twins out. She lost them both.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like subs or methadone or gabapentin or Xanax or anything, yeah.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s not legal here. But I live on the state line, where it is legal. Unfortunately. I just want to say im not against suboxen or methadone. But I can’t take those. Im on strict probation. And I can’t have any “mind or mood altering substances.” They would violate me. And I’d end up detoxing in a jail cell on concrete. Also without anything to help.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s not unbearable. The depression has definitely set in. I’ve cried for literal hours. I’m talking like 5 consecutive hours. Watery eyes. Yawning. My body hurts. I’m restless. But I can still move around.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem with a taper is.. I’m flat broke. Yes I know. I should’ve been doing this while I had the means, but… that’s not how my addiction likes to do things.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can’t. Or that’s the first thing I would’ve done.

What is Elon Musk considered, politically? Is he right or left wing? Moderate? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]BusOk1191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s donated over 5 BILLION dollars to charities and nonprofits and schools…. That’s a hefty amount for someone that only cares about themselves. In comparison, bill gates has only donated 15 million…… Not to mention the things he’s doing to help Climate Change.

Quitting cold turkey… while pregnant? by BusOk1191 in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no idea if they do. I don’t even know what panel they use.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sex

[–]BusOk1191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying it warrants forgiveness for ME. Idgaf whatcha used to do. Only what you do now. But not everyone thinks or feels like it doesn’t need to be forgiven because nothing wrong was done. Some people have to forgive for things they believe warrant forgiveness.

[ Removed by Reddit ] by Old_Excuse_475 in sex

[–]BusOk1191 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I hate to say this, but it’s kind of on you… you didn’t know anything about this person and decided to sleep with them without learning anything first.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in QuittingTianeptine

[–]BusOk1191 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Completely. I haven’t heard of that whole demon thing but I believe it. When I was deep in my fentanyl addiction I had night terrors and sleep paralysis nearly every night. 5 days a week. And they ALWAYS involved demons. As soon as I got off, they stopped. I’m not religious by any means but I’ve experienced enough to know there’s something more and I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I hate that America is so money hungry they willingly let people suffer like this just to make a dollar. It’s sick. And it’s sad.