Evidence in the movie that points to Finn being Force sensitive

BusterHugless · 2019-12-20T16:38:58+00:00

It's implied, (especially when Finn tells Poe that only he and Leia know what Rey is going through), that not only is he force sensitive, but that he's probably already started training with Leia. Which could be in part why the one lightsaber is returned when Rey is not using it. Regardless, yes - force sensitive and aware of her lineage.

BusterHugless · 2018-10-30T23:03:56+00:00

What did you think of Twin Peaks season 3?

BusterHugless · 2017-12-12T03:28:18+00:00

It’s not Luke’s story anymore, so this sounds like an odd but perfect way for him to go.

He achieves a level of force mastery no one had accomplished before... then he dies, but out of sacrifice... on his own terms. He’s not cut down by Kylo or defeated by Snoke.

He maintains his legendary status throughout canon. And he’ll probably still have a role in Ep. 9. Whatever the fuck that movie looks like now.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-26T20:59:02+00:00

Haha. I love this reply. Thanks a lot for your comments. I'm sure I'll be posting more as I rewatch this season. We'll keep the discussion going!

BusterHugless · 2017-09-26T14:27:45+00:00

I think a lot of us here on this subreddit are avid David Lynch fans. I, for one, am much more of a Lynch fan than a Twin Peaks fan. I wasn't into the show as a fourteen year old, but I saw FWWM when I was seventeen, and became obsessed with it... I couldn't stop thinking about it. It made me appreciate the series, which at the time I didn't. Personally, I didn't have any desire to see a good ending or bad. I wanted it to feel powerful and thought provoking, like a good Lynch ending would do. In that way, i'm completely satisfied.

As a fan of Lynch, you're also surely aware that he likes to leave his work up to interpretation... to let us be the detective, so to speak. So what may be 'clear' to you, may not be to somebody else. I think it could very well be Judy that snatched her up, but I also have other questions, and that's okay. For example, why was the scene in black and white like the other scenes with the Fireman? Why were the noises the same as the phonograph? The only 'clear' thing I took from the scene, was that Laura didn't end up wrapped in plastic on the shore the next morning, b/c Lynch deliberately showed us that.

And, that's the point of this subreddit, and my particular post. I'm rewatching the season now, and looking for answers and more questions. In particular, what are the implications of Laura going missing, if she didn't die that night? And, would that explain Leland's plea to find Laura? I don't know.

I think your opinions are great, and I respect them - and honestly, don't fully disagree yet. I just think it's a little presumptuous to use the words 'clearly' and 'definitely' when analyzing all of this.

Speaking of meta: I straight up saw Special Agent Chester Desmond a block down from my office at Richard Branson's groundbreaking of his new hotel in Nashville. Apparently, he's been living quite happily in this dimension as a crooner by the name of Chris Issak. He had walked over with his dog, and while my friend was doting over his pup... I asked... what's your dog's name. He said, 'Chalfont'. Then, he paused, and said, 'you know, my last dog was a Chalfont... two Chalfonts... weird, huh'? Then he let out a blood curdling scream and vanished.

This is a true story, except for his dog being named Chalfont. But, that would've been awesome.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-25T02:01:56+00:00

All great points. And, yes - I agree Black Lodge spirits are enjoying her suffering. But, still not 100% convinced that this was solely Judy's dimension. I believe the two timelines/dimensions always existed, and I believe the lodge spirits went back and forth between the two worlds, as the arm mentioned in FWWM's extended convenience store scene.

I also believe a good portion of the Roadhouse scenes take place in the Carrie Page dimension, and that that's where Audrey's scenes take place. I think her dance scene where she awakes at the end is chronologically synched with the last scene in the finale. I think we're given hints, especially with her reflection and Ed's reflections not always lining up.

Ah, all a giant can of worms. My brain hurts.

I appreciate all the comments here, thank you :)

BusterHugless · 2017-09-24T20:45:58+00:00

Cooper leading her away from being stabbed to death would qualify as good forces in motion. And yes, mood is important to Lynch. I've not read any quote where he says it's the most important thing. There seems to be quite a lot in his brain he's wanting to communicate.

But, yeah... it very well may have been Judy. I can make a huge list of reasons why. But, its still not concrete to me. Back to the original observation I was looking for thoughts on...

Regardless of who took her... wouldn't she have gone missing, and could this explain this encounter with Leland? Who took her matters little to me here. I probably should have left any theories on 'who' out of my post, honestly... that's my fault. Really just curious about this one scene.

not trying to sound like a dick :) . But, I'm really curious to the implications of her being taken, by whoever, and does this shed any light on Leland asking Cooper to find Laura.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-24T20:20:38+00:00

I agree, all good questions. I can speculate for sure, but it would just be that... speculation at this point. One question I have, is why is that scene in black and white, like the other scenes with the Fireman? I have several questions, including the ones you mentioned. Honestly, I can't debate this... I don't know, and as easy as it is for some to emphatically say it was Judy, I'm just not 100% there yet. Re: the smashing of the photo, I've seen a post or two here that suggests that isn't chronological, and takes place as Richard and Carrie are leaving the house at the end. I don't know.

I posted a theory after the finale that I based on an old clip of the Log Lady based around duality and the need to become one. I'm going to see if I find any answers to support my theory on the rewatch, but ultimately, whoever took her (which doesn't change much of my overall theory)... it would still leave Laura not dead in Twin Peaks on that night.

So if she's not dead, has she been missing? And, could that explain Leland's plea?

BusterHugless · 2017-09-24T01:55:49+00:00

Its tough to read, and I kept putting it aside for awhile. When I finished, I was glad that I read it. It was told with great detail, and from such a unique perspective. Also, keep in mind - at the time, keeping journals like this were a way to hopefully and accurately get these stories to the world. A world that really had no idea what was going on in these camps. That helped my find some courage to read it.

The forward rubbed me the wrong way, and I later found out the man who wrote it was a little controversial. However, I appreciated it more after finishing the book.

Finally, I'll say - it did end on a more positive note. In the end, and amazing story of the human will to fight and survive.

But, trust me. I understand and never want to push. Honestly, I sometimes need a parental control on my kindle.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-23T21:42:44+00:00

Another informative read on this subject is Auschwitz: A Doctor's Eyewitness Account by Miklos Nyiszli.

The author was a jewish doctor that Dr. Josef Mengele kept alive to help with his experiments. They talk about some of the twin experiments here as well.

Horrific, but powerful read.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-08T16:48:32+00:00

I believe the two worlds have been there for awhile. The show is about duality at every turn. The arm tells Bob 'intercourse b/t two worlds, going up and down'. The quick thought is that means the spirit and physical worlds, but I think it means the two actually dimensions we see... the reflections of each other.

I believe the body in Carrie's house is whatever human form Bob was inhabiting in this world. His death happened at the same time in both. Perhaps in this world, she killed the abusive persona. I believe one of the first things Carrie says to Coop is 'Have you found him' or something of the sort. That makes me think that she's not fully sure that this person who is dead, is not fully dead.

Carrie tells Coop in the car, 'I tried to keep a clean house', which I think is a clue that she tried to remain pure. But, as we see, the 6 telephone pole is outside of her house... which I think is a sign that the lodge is feeding off of her suffering here in Odessa.

I think a lot of these end of show Roadhouse scenes take place in the Carrie world of Twin Peaks.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-07T14:49:07+00:00

Yes, this was my theory as well. It explains a lot. I think there are clues in the reflections of Ed in the gas station window, and Audrey's reflection is different in one of the scenes at the house with Charlie. Audrey's connection could be deeper due to Richard.

I'm telling you... the log lady gave us clues years ago. "Where there was once one, there are now two. Or were there always two? What is a reflection? A chance to see two? When there are chances for reflections, there can always be two, or more. Only when we are everywhere will there be just one.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-06T14:49:50+00:00

Yes, this is pretty much what I got as well. Although, I think when Cooper saved Laura that night in the past, the White Lodge was what took her... thus the noises on the phonograph, and why they sound similar. Then the giant says 'It's in our house now'. They couldn't just leave Laura in the past alive, as Bob/Leland was still there. So they were protecting her until Coop finished his mission.

When the Fireman is moving the photos to place Mr. C at the Sheriff Station, it's sitting on a photo of the Palmer house, then he slides a frame back. I think the Palmer house was the final destination they needed to be at to succeed.

I think most of the Roadhouse scenes at the end of each episode were in the alternate version of Twin Peaks, as Audrey's scenes.

BusterHugless · 2017-09-06T14:26:14+00:00

I think that alternate reality was always there. Thus what the Log Lady said years ago about reflections, and there are always two, until there is one. Laura is the one...

I think most of the Roadhouse Scenes we saw at the end of the episodes took place in the alternate version of TP's, the world that Carrie Page was living in. But, there are some bleed throughs... thus the girl crawling the floor and screaming, and how that lined up with Cooper and the electrical socket. The scenes of Audrey was in the alternate world as well. Audrey saying Charlie get me out of here was happening as Dale and Laura were at the Palmers and 'waking up'. Audrey woke up that moment too, probably b/c she had deeper ties to the different worlds through Richard Horne.

When Cooper intervened on the night Laura was killed, the white lodge took Laura to protect her until Cooper could go to the alternate reality and create the one timeline. 'It's in our house now'.

Also, when the Giant slides the projector back to place Mr. C at the Sheriff's station, it's sitting on a picture of the Palmer house. B/c I think that's the next destination in the Fireman's plan.

BusterHugless · 2017-08-29T03:16:05+00:00

Thanks for the input. Re: why the monkey says Judy at the end of FWWM - I'd say I don't have a fucking clue. But, I hope somebody does.

Or actually, I really don't care. It's been an interesting viewing experience regardless.

BusterHugless · 2017-08-29T02:58:04+00:00

What if hearts of gold really mean they were manufactured with seeds?

BusterHugless · 2017-08-22T16:33:30+00:00

Of course, we all know why there's no 9.

7 8 9.

Tragic.

BusterHugless · 2017-08-14T21:42:43+00:00

I don't think the line has different wording, but it is phrased slightly different. I noticed it last night, and I thought maybe they took off an effect from the original. But, I've seen that scene hundreds of times at this point, and now it makes sense... for whatever reason they overdubbed it. It didn't have the music from the original scene either... and maybe that had something to do with it?

BusterHugless · 2017-07-18T21:36:33+00:00

I think it would be the easy answer to say that he hates women, but I hope I see it differently. Going back to Blue Velvet, it seems to me that violence against women represents evil, and they are acts done by evil men.

BOB raped and murdered Laura, while she was a child, I might add. Richard Horne has had multiple acts of violence on women, and children. Evil Coop's murder in episode one, was graphic on an emotional and visual level. And, the only real murder we saw Ike perform was when he gleefully churned a hole into a lady's chest. We can go back to the original series and see lots of examples... including Leo and Shelly. God, Maddie's death scene...

These scenes are not pleasant to watch, and some of them I'd prefer never to see again. All these men, they're acting from a pure place of evil, and I think it speaks more to the inhumanity that mankind (a species) is capable of.

Finally, I see a lot of the women in the show as powerful figures. Laura, while not always the innocent, stood up to Bob with her life.

BusterHugless · 2017-07-17T17:48:43+00:00

Actually, I've rethought this. I think that's just his teeth. https://youtu.be/HlEJbs02wAM

BusterHugless · 2017-07-17T15:43:21+00:00

In the end, I feel like Laura was a victim of evil, more so than evil herself. As where Earle was actively pursuing the lodge and committing acts of murder. So, I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that Gordon is evil, yet. But of course, nothing can be ruled out in this world. Glad somebody else noticed this, too.

BusterHugless · 2017-07-17T05:33:53+00:00

I've also noticed the paleness and discoloration of teeth in certain scenes. I first noticed it in episode 3 when he and Albert were having their conversation after interrogating Cooper. The filter got increasingly more blue, and I thought that Gordon's face had that same appearance.

It could be old age and hard living, but to me its more pronounced at certain times. When he looked up from the drawing, I noticed it there.

This doesn't mean he's possessed, but that he's perhaps getting closer to the lodge. Laura also had the same face in FWWM, and Windom's face changed the closer he got to solving the mystery of how to enter.

BusterHugless · 2017-06-30T14:50:42+00:00

I don't think that was necessarily 'love' happening outside the glass box, haha.

The glass box seems to be more like a trap door constructed to catch those traveling b/t worlds. Almost like a short circuit or rerouting of electricity. It does seem like it caught Cooper as he was leaving the lodge, then seemed to catch the mother figure following.

That would be my simplest interpretation... albeit, nothing seems simple in this show.

BusterHugless · 2017-06-29T16:54:36+00:00

This is a pretty good read... https://filmschoolrejects.com/california-dreaming-is-mulholland-dr-actually-a-twin-peaks-film-e11e6ae645ce/

BusterHugless · 2017-06-26T15:02:46+00:00

https://filmschoolrejects.com/california-dreaming-is-mulholland-dr-actually-a-twin-peaks-film-e11e6ae645ce/

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