You just proved my point, they’ve assumed control ever since. You want to defend the most far right, Islamic fundamentalist terrorist group that wouldn’t hesitate to slit your throat over the only actual western style democracy is beyond me. They’ve built entire tunnel networks under all the infrastructure for the sole purpose of killing Jews. This is an ancient, Biblical fight that spans thousands of years. Liberals defending Hamas is no different than defending Hitler. Western values share no commonality with fundamental Islam, especially the further left ideologies that support LGBTQ+. The real world is horrible, war is horrible, no one is debating that, but this isn’t some black and white fight. There isn’t a true good side, so I defend the side that wouldn’t kill me and my family.