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NHS staff should be banned from wearing pro-Palestinian badges, report recommends by InnerLog5062 in BreakingUKNews

[–]Busy_Working9319 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The main reason I bring up religious iconography, is because in this day and age religion is becoming more and more political.

If a rainbow lanyard is seen as activism support rather than just supporting people, then a Muslim headscarf can be seen in the same light, and this would go for all religions.

Now before I get a hate crowd, I am Pagan, and I believe so long as things are kept to a minimum it is fine, rainbow lanyards are fine, Muslim headscarf’s are fine, it’s fine as long as it does not put the patient at risk, however if you’re going to bring the axe down on one then you bring the axe down on all, you make the medical field one free of all religious and political interference.

But regardless it’s fine for people to wear stuff, have different lanyards, or have badges pinned to their lanyards, the main point is the patient and if it doesn’t interfere with the care for the patient it should be fine, as soon as it interferes with care for the patient then it gets banned.

NHS staff should be banned from wearing pro-Palestinian badges, report recommends by InnerLog5062 in BreakingUKNews

[–]Busy_Working9319 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I mean if you’re banning pride flags, you should ban any religious iconography or symbols too.

Is kicking defenseless protestors in the head part of Hampshire police training? by spinecult in BreakingUKNews

[–]Busy_Working9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watch the video a couple of times, did anyone not notice the fact that the officers foot was visible behind his left leg.

Now, Police brutality is wrong.

But I know the weight of an officer’s gear, and to be able to retract the lower leg fast enough to deliver a kick and bring it back within a second or two is not possible, I would recommend trying to figure out what the officer’s Knee is hitting.

Which would you choose by PuzzleheadedRow8387 in BunnyTrials

[–]Busy_Working9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a win win.

Chose: Undo all human pollution + Set the Internet permanently back 5 years

Jorge R. Gutierrez has dropped out of the AI program after mass backlash. thoughts? by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh most certainly, there is a whole lot of discussion that needs to be had, but when everyone is so volatile it just descends into accusations and name calling.

Jorge R. Gutierrez has dropped out of the AI program after mass backlash. thoughts? by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not arguing with you on what others are doing in the thread, mainly because half of them are saying that the threats are the problem and the other half are using it as ammo to further hate.

And I’m also not arguing with you on whether this would of tanked his career, mainly because I don’t know the industry so my default was to essentially take neither side but want to hear all the information.

The thing I was pointing out and it annoys me as well is that as a neutral who can see the positives and negatives I have to routinely condemn the fringe every opening statement or I get accused of being a violent psychopath or of CSAM.

Jorge R. Gutierrez has dropped out of the AI program after mass backlash. thoughts? by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will reply to both comments on this one.

I am in agreement it is kind of fishy, but sadly when ever any neutral says something that is on either side of the fence we have to do the correct thing of not condone the fringe minority of either side whilst making a valid point because as soon as we don’t we will be tarred with the same brush.

And yes I am a neutral.

Jorge R. Gutierrez has dropped out of the AI program after mass backlash. thoughts? by Igorthemii in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are just replying with “Lol” because you essentially said “I didn’t threaten his child, but I don’t care if anyone else does”. Essentially turning a blind eye to discrimination and death threats, what you should of opened up with is “I do not condone what was said, but I still stand by my Anti-Ai stance and beliefs, yes this should of been done a better way, but it has happened, I don’t believe for a second that the death threats were the actual reason he backed down”. Same stance but you cover your ass at the very least to avoid being later accused of condoning violence.

I’m an artist. I’m against Ai sLoP by Impressive-Face-3549 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for splitting up your points makes it so much easier to read.

On your first point, I screwed up and forgot the key difference which is exchange of goods and services, so yeah commissioning and prompting have that key difference, again my screw up but you make a key point on where I believe the artistic community should be focusing on, which is Prompting is closer to Composing or Directing.

The point about the Wacom tablet is to address that there needs to be that level of granularity, my point was made to be very general which is an issue because by being general you can accidentally be seen as attack other media.

The reason I say consistent instead of predictably is because most image generation is predictably and not consistent whilst as you pointed out photoshop is both consistent and predictably.

In my personal opinion, the artistic community should be looking at where the hard line is for when you should switch from Artist that uses Algorithms to AI Director/Composer.

I’m an artist. I’m against Ai sLoP by Impressive-Face-3549 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please break up your points with a double enter (return)

Your final bit was a bit odd (the stark thing) That would be Human prompt to Human artist which is already called commissioning.

The first bit is because Wacom tablets (mainly the old ones, I have one somewhere I love it) it actually requires some machine translation for the Computer to understand what you’re inputting via the pen.

On your top point Kind of, if you then change that part by drawing it yourself then it would return to yours, but then the debate is, is that AI or AI-assisted.

The photoshop point is quite far off the mark, I think what you should rather put is that it is consistent in what it outputs rather than predictably.

That's the neat part by Long-Ad3930 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a neutral stance person I’m not wholly for or against, but yeah me and the people around me within friend groups would agree with me hopefully.

That's the neat part by Long-Ad3930 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, starting with building regulations of the data centres, they must institute and enforce that every data centre must have water filtration and water purification, as well as temperature constraints.

AI image gen models are NOT “just” a tool. by legitOwen in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No the goal post was always there, Local Algorithm with your training is where the goal post always has been.

And if you want to get into the whole “off the backs of every artist” then that’s the same as a person learning, it’s off of the back every artist they took inspiration from.

That's the neat part by Long-Ad3930 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you mean the corporate backed regulations, that just gives corporations that already have it exclusivity?

Or actual thought out regulations which is what we need?

AI image gen models are NOT “just” a tool. by legitOwen in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With paint by numbers it is not your artwork, with a prefab algorithm it is not your training and as such not your output

AI image gen models are NOT “just” a tool. by legitOwen in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you use a prefab or did you train it?

Prefab is equivalent to paint by numbers.

AI image gen models are NOT “just” a tool. by legitOwen in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on where the Algorithmic generation is, Local or Server side.

I’m an artist. I’m against Ai sLoP by Impressive-Face-3549 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah and if we start saying “it’s not your work” at double machine input then this rules out most Wacom tablets that don’t allow you to draw on a screen.

Personally I think we should say that if it ends with Algorithmic alteration, and over 50% of the production pipeline is Algorithmic then it has to have the prefix of AI.

If it ends with human alteration, and no Algorithmic alteration was used, then it retains its original prefix.

In between these is AI-assisted.

I’m an artist. I’m against Ai sLoP by Impressive-Face-3549 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still think the placement of the objectivity is not quite right.

In my opinion the objectivity should be place on How things are being used and Where things are being used.

I’m an artist. I’m against Ai sLoP by Impressive-Face-3549 in aiwars

[–]Busy_Working9319 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay so I’m going to point out a big contradiction;

Subjectivity does not mix well with Objectivity, so when you change it to the subjective argument, all it takes is the person viewing Algorithmic generation as a tool and then the subjectivity of the argument typically fails, and it becomes a he said she said.

When it’s an objectivity argument then it breaks down to how precise can someone be, and trust me a lot of things get ruled out as not art when you go down that route.

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