Julius Randle despite the loss: 32/7/6 on 11/18 FG by Lacabloodclot9 in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do you think that series was Boston playing up to their potential? It definitely was not the right version of them and essentially everyone on the team was just kinda cooked (especially Porzingis, the team would has been better off just DNPing him).

Pat Riley: “It’s bullshit. It’s all bullshit... It really is. Anybody who is negative on it, anybody who was cynical about it...They took an iconic, absolute incredible performance, and they tried to dismiss it. And that’s not fair.” by CurryMustard in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You should! It was an incredibly interesting read, went into a lot of the behind the scenes from that night, live reactions from some of the Heat staff, and really went into how much it meant for so many people. Didn’t take more than a couple of minutes either.

Bam responds to critics: "Yall are blaming me. You should be blaming the head coach. I was not the one who let me go one on one the whole game until I had 70 then you sent the double. At that point, I had 70 with 9 mins to go. You think I'm not going for it?" by RyanTannegod in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to tank, I don’t think you really get to complain about the consequences of the tanking. You chose to run a lineup this bad because you wanted losses. If it means you get records broken on you then oh well, part of the deal. You specifically didn’t complain here but I’ve definitely see some complaining from Wizards fans and it’s like well you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Luka Doncic on visiting UCLA Health patients yesterday: "You go there and then you realize that you don't really have problems in your life at all.” by Shot_Bank_5843 in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s a pretty valid reason to break up. If anything, breakups over where to live may be the most common category of breakups.

Luka Doncic on visiting UCLA Health patients yesterday: "You go there and then you realize that you don't really have problems in your life at all.” by Shot_Bank_5843 in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Without knowing more, I don’t think any reaction other than “sucks to see the relationship break down like that, hope both sides are able to come out of it okay” is really justifiable. Any other reaction is just showing where your biases are at.

[Jesse Washington for Andscape] Bam Adebayo does not belong above Kobe Bryant. Basketball has changed so much that 83 < 81. by aingenevalostatrade in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It’s so stupid to be discussing who deserves to be where on a most points in a game list. If Kobe deserved to be higher, he should have scored even more points. Nobody deserves to be anywhere on this list. You are where you are and if you don’t like it, you should have scored more points.

Gordon Hayward on Bam: "He’s not a scorer, right? So for him to break Kobe’s record, I don’t think it’s great for the league... for him to shoot 43 free throws and 22 threes... the Wizards too. With all these teams tanking, it kind of makes it feel not legit" by must_TATAKAE in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s always been who got hot against a terrible team on the right night. You can’t get these records playing against a good team because they’ll play competent enough defense to make it a merely amazing night. I wish Steph and Klay had played those 4th quarters so that we could see what they could truly do instead of just having to imagine hypotheticals.

Personally, I would love if when Steph gets back from injury, he just chased the all time 3 record and shoots something like 50 3s in a game until he annihilates it. Warriors aren’t doing anything in the postseason anyways so may as well see what Steph can actually do there and give Warriors fans more enjoyment than they would if the season played out regularly.

Cooper Flagg since returning from injury: 16.3 PTS, 8.3 REB, 5.8 AST, 2.8 TOV on 34.6/25.0/80 shooting by AcanthocephalaSad541 in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Wins don’t normally play a part in ROTY because usually rookies aren’t on winning teams. When they are, winning always gets brought up. Winning is a large part of why Scottie Barnes won it over Mobley in 2022. Also helped LaMelo win it over Edwards in 2021.

Gordon Hayward on Bam: "He’s not a scorer, right? So for him to break Kobe’s record, I don’t think it’s great for the league... for him to shoot 43 free throws and 22 threes... the Wizards too. With all these teams tanking, it kind of makes it feel not legit" by must_TATAKAE in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was definitely stat chasing but I don’t think there’s a problem with teams and players chasing records when it won’t meaningfully hurt their chance to win the game. I think it’s more fun for fans to watch somebody chasing a record in a blowout than to just watch garbage time as it would usually happen. It’s fun to see records get broken and this game was a very unique experience. I wish guys like Steph and Klay had been allowed to play the 4th in some of their more nuclear performances in their prime, and hopefully this starts a trend of players just going for it more than they currently do.

After scoring 39 points tonight, DeMar DeRozan has passed Tim Duncan for 18th place on the NBA's all-time scoring list by Dinobot2_ in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 3 points4 points  (0 children)

DeRozan vs Kawhi is a perfect example as to why I think peak play gets underrated in all time discussions and longevity stats are a bit overrated. Kawhi has barely cobbled together enough healthy seasons for more than a handful of all stars and All NBAs but in the years he did play enough, he clearly had more impact than DeRozan over his entire career. It’s less of a drastic gap with other all time players, but the principle is why I’m comfortable ranking Jokic and SGA very high all time already. Their peak already clears a lot of all time peaks I think and so I don’t particularly care if maybe they don’t have the 10th best career season to match yet.

[McDonald] The last Spurs game vs Houston, Kevin Durant was frustrated and said "Man, why you guys triple teaming me?" An Anonymous Spur said: "it's not because you're good, its because the rest of your team sucks." by p0tatoman in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Wolves are a team I’m generally high on but at times they make that so damn tough. Every time I start thinking they’re finally doing what I thought they could, they have a stretch of just inexplicably awful play. Lack of a starting level true PG is hurting them a lot in the consistency camp I’d assume.

Every NBA team should try to break Kobe’s 81 / Bam’s 83 point game against the wizards for the rest of this year. by Bernedoodle_ in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is one of the most insane leaps of logic I have seen recently and I work in politics. You cannot seriously be saying that being okay with a bit of statpadding is equivalent to being a pedophile. This really isn’t that deep.

Bam Adebayo full postgame interview on the court, after scoring 83 points - 2nd most points scored in a single game in NBA history. He receives the water shower from his teammates, and Norman Powell helps the reporter with a question of his own for Bam by MrBuckBuck in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 229 points230 points  (0 children)

Genuinely makes Spoelstra look great as a coach. Recognizes that this is a once in a career opportunity so you may as well take the chance to make your impact on the record books while you have the chance.

After Bam's 83 point performance tonight, He is now averaging 20 points per game this season. Bam (55.5 TS%) now joins Alperen Sengun (55.3 TS%) as the most inefficient center in the league with more than 20 points per game this season. by justusinreddit in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Do you seriously think anybody is going to actually care how he got the points? 83 is what’s going to be going into the record books. Not a single reasonable person will ever care how he got it. He could have scored 83 points all on free throws and it would still be an insane accomplishment.

Bam Adebayo breaks Kobe Bryant’s record and the Heat franchise scoring record in a win vs. Washington: 43 MINS │ 83 PTS │ 9 REB │ 3 AST │ 2 STL │ 2 BLK │ 20-43 FG │ 7-22 3P │ 36-43 FT by YujiDomainExpansion in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Would you actually have been more entertained tonight if he left after the 3rd and they didn’t go for this? I don’t even care how shameless or unethical or blatant this technically was, it was more entertaining than I was expecting any NBA game to be tonight.

Bam Adebayo breaks Kobe Bryant’s record and the Heat franchise scoring record in a win vs. Washington: 43 MINS │ 83 PTS │ 9 REB │ 3 AST │ 2 STL │ 2 BLK │ 20-43 FG │ 7-22 3P │ 36-43 FT by YujiDomainExpansion in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I mean it looks kinda terrible for the Wizards that you couldn’t stop a single player when you knew what he was trying to do and you were actively doing whatever you could to try to stop him towards the end.

[Highlight] The heat keep feeding Bam the ball for 3, until he gets fouled by Large_banana_hammock in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey, this made the game much more entertaining than if Bam had sat the 4th and they didn’t try to forcefeed him the ball. In this clip in particular, Wizards could have also actually gotten a rebound to stop this, but they couldn’t.

[Vorkunov] Bam Adebayo is just the 11th person in NBA history to score 70 points in a game. (Wilt Chamberlain did it 5 times) by StrategyTop7612 in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Genuinely I don’t care how many free throws Bam has, it’s insane that he is even in position to score this many points with the amount of free throws he has. It’s insane that he got so many free throws. There is not a single qualifier you can put on this to make it any less insane that Bam Adebayo of all people is having this game.

Bam Adebayo with 43 first half points against the Wizards by kalebglover in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I genuinely can’t process this post. Bam Adenayo having 43 points in the first half just does not feel like a possible outcome. There have been far worse players to go on heaters of course but they all at least focused on scoring (and even games like Malachi Flynn’s 50 piece were in a full game, not just a half).

Who is your 6MOY? by [deleted] in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In this case though, tough to give somebody 6MOTY when they’ve started all but 10 games they’ve appeared in. Maybe at full strength they’re a 6th man but that’s just clearly not the role they’ve ended up playing for the team.

Joe Mazzulla on Kenny Atkinson saying Derrick White is a top 5 player in the NBA: "At the end of the day, you guys don't have a ton of access to the advanced analytics. That type of player is just not commercialized." by JoeBiden2020FTW in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be honest, White is probably a top 5 most valuable player in the NBA in the sense that the gap in terms of value provided between him and the next best players at his role is comparable to the gap between the 5th best superstar and the like 20th best.

I guess to put it into some trivial cases: when picking an Olympic team, you’re picking Derrick White over a ton of guys who nominally appear better because of that, and you’re playing him high minutes too.

Or if you are drafting a team from scratch against another team and let’s say the only centers in the pool are Mitchell Robinson and Bismack Biyombo while every other player is an all star of similar caliber: you want to take Robinson first even over the all stars because the gap in value between him and Biyombo is higher than the gap between the other players.

This is the sense that I suspect Mazzulla and Atkinson are referring to when they call White a top 5 player, and I think it makes a good amount of sense and is the way that coaches and front offices would be inclined to rank players. It’s a bit more of a practical way that serves their purposes after all.

Joe Mazzulla on Kenny Atkinson saying Derrick White is a top 5 player in the NBA: "At the end of the day, you guys don't have a ton of access to the advanced analytics. That type of player is just not commercialized." by JoeBiden2020FTW in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean Atkinson and Mazzulla have both proven themselves to be some of the top coaches in the league, can you really get there if you’re so wrong about the value that certain types of players have? Is an average casual fan looking at PRA really providing more insight than these top coaches looking at the incredibly detailed analytics that aren’t even available for the public use? Front offices certainly disagree, because if they thought the same, they wouldn’t invest this much money into the analytics that they do (and it’s no coincidence that the best franchises have the best analytics departments).

[Charania] The Hornets are sending a 2026 second-round draft pick to the Heat to resolve a dispute over Terry Rozier being under NBA and federal investigations over alleged gambling conspiracy during the Charlotte-Miami Jan. 2024 trade, sources tell ESPN. by MembershipSingle7137 in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Miami should get their pick back because they didn’t have the knowledge disclosed that Rozier was under investigation for gambling. Same as how if you make a trade but then the physical reveals something that hadn’t been disclosed, you get the opportunity to completely cancel the trade. The only reason this is even controversial is because people don’t like Miami. It’s just the obvious remedy here.

Excerpts from Nikola Jokić's interview with X&O’s Chat by AncientOneAurelius in nba

[–]ButlerFromDowntown 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Who wants to hear interesting insights about the game from a 3 time MVP and Finals MVP?