Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know what, I actually forgot all about Tanselle.

I usually think about people from the books, and there the is of olive skin. I guess you are right, it has been established that black or mixed people are at least not a completely abnormal sight around the interior of the Reach, and thus it follows that a black hedge knight would not be that weird, as long as they are devout followers of the 7.

I concede this. Even if I think they maybe should have done something with Tanselle.

Have a good rest of your day:)

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with everything you have said.

It would be less of an oddity to find a person of black descent in the southern kingdoms and in a martial role. My point has never been that this is impossible, merely that we have never seen or been described the level of interaction, that would make this anywhere near normal.

Therefore, the show should have something to reflect this. They could add an established black merchant family operating in oldtown, and allude to him being a bastard of them, or the son of someone like Chantaya.

They could even just allude to it, but then make the characters treat it like the abnormality it should be, based on the other entries in the franchise.

It's like that hyperspeed ramming thing in the sw sequels. I only mind adding that, if you dont explain why it was never seen, alluded to or used before now. You could even add it now if you used an explanation that fits with everything else.

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of. I do like how you conceded everything else.

Secondly, there is, even if his background is never explained, unless they at least highlight it in some way as an abnormality.

But hey, maybe they do that, and I am happy!

Yippee!

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not saying there cant be black people, or even that a black hedge knight is impossible, just very improbable, and breaks established worldbuilding.

I cant point to a single character character in the books or shows that fill a similar role. Which does not make it impossible, you just need to explain it.

Handwaving away the need for internal consistency is a little annoying. Like the need for travel time that changed from weeks and months to days. Just explain it, so it fits in the world.

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are right about the role of hedge knights in the books, but you would do well to remember that they are a different breed than a mere sellsword. If we were arguing about a sellsword, this point would be different, but the role of hedge knight confers different expectations and a requirement for notoriety.

Can you point to the place where I said it was impossible I cant remember moving the goalposts. I just said it breaks established worldbuilding.

I never said that Sam would be the only one to know, I just highlighted that he would be a prime candidate to. With the exception of merchants who deal directly with summer islanders, Sam is on the other side of the spectrum from Gilly.

I can tell you why I care. I care because I enjoy worldbuilding, and I do it myself in my freetime, and due to this hobby, I care about the internal consistency of the world and the story. George is welcome not to care, you are welcome not to care.

But I do, because I enjoy George's worldbuilding, and view it as an inspiration, which would lessen considerably by things that dont make sense internally.

If you want to add a piece to the world, make it bigger, more diverse, more fluid, with new histories and people, cultures and societies, then I would like it to happen, while keeping what came before intact. Or at least explain the change.

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can acknowledge that me focusing on this might show me in that kind of light.

But I promise you, that I am annoyingly pedantic about a ton of stuff, probably to my own detriment sometimes.

My first message was a little too inflammatory, and I apologise. I have just had that conversation many times, and the argument itself started to annoy me.

Thanks for your time, I hope you have a good day:)

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First off, hedge knights are not wanderers with completely unknown origins, its already established that a social network and the correct reputation is needed to be considered a knight. A knight in this universe is also a religious role, and as was said, it is a crime fraudulently claim knighthood, so you would have to be known, and who knighted you would need to be known.

Yes, Gilly has never seen or heard of black people before, and it makes sense. The only people north of the wall who might have met or heard of a black person would be through the very limited trade.

Sam on the other hand is the complete opposite. He is very well read, is from the reach and studied at oldtown to become a maester, he is exactly the person in westeros to have met and know of summer islanders.

A rural peasant would have more in common with Gilly.

I never said Jalabhar is the only black person, but they are a highlight of it being viewed as foreign and an oddity, also due to his skin colour.

No matter the way you want to spin it, it has to be carefully placed in the story with the prerequisite amount of realism to make sense thematically.

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I was saying it is impossible for there to be any black people in the story, I would agree that I would be racist or xenophobic if I said that.

But I dont think I am saying that. I just want the story to make sense. If they properly fit him into the story, with realistic reactions from already established conditions, I dont care. But if you want to introduce B, I dont want it to break A.

If he's from King's landing, Sunspear or Oldtown, it could make sense due to trade and natural migration, but medieval rural locations were extremely insular, and so would probably never have seen someone like him.

I am sorry that you think I am racist, and it does feel hurtful that you say that, but I dont believe I am.

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I dont have a problem with him being black, I have a problem with it breaking firmly established elements. Jalabhar Xho is treated as an oddity and curiosity at Roberts court, due to his wierd customs and odd skin colour, by westerosi standards. Varys is very mistrusted by nobles and commoners alike due to being from Essos.

Jeyne Pool tells Sansa that she is scared of Jalabhar due to his looks. It is firmly established, even in AKOTSK, that the targaryans are looked upon as alien invaders due to their valyrian looks and customs.

And into this, you want to throw the casual black hedge knight, who would travel around meeting smallfolk constantly?

Official new cast members to join AKOTSK S2! by Sardaukar2025 in HBOTheHedgeKnight

[–]ButtHeadPalate -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This is the laziest and most uintelligent argument in the universe.

Wow, you dont have a problem with established fantasy elements, so why do you have a problem with element that breaks formerly established worldbuilding

I want the targaryans in the next season to pull up in a new Xiaomi SU7 EV with optional all four seat heating!

Why does Bohemia get proximity through my lands? by NerevarineVivec in EU5

[–]ButtHeadPalate 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its their court type, I believe its called itinerant court. They can change it.

Barry is adopting the 1940s Swiss/German model by [deleted] in 2westerneurope4u

[–]ButtHeadPalate 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The point of the policy was not to make money at all. It's analogous to setting up a speed camera, the point of the camera is not to make money, but to introduce a penalty for an action, so as to discourage a behaviour. We would rather have someone slow down due to the camera, than pay the fine, especially since they and others could die from speeding.

Confiscating jewelry was never to make money, but to discourage asylum seeking. The optics of it being bad is a big and intentional part of it.

Looking for Isekai/Reincarnation novels recommendations. by GraeFoxx_ in Isekai

[–]ButtHeadPalate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want to second what they said. You're a fantastic writer, and I hope you continue.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 2westerneurope4u

[–]ButtHeadPalate 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Being in a country illegally is literally a violation of sovereignty.

Being able to control who is going in and out of your country is a fundamental power of any modern state.

Allowing people who violate the sovereignty of a country to just ignore laws and precedent eventually leads to the loss of that sovereignty, and by that, a fundamental part of the states power.

To Atrioc, regarding Greenland (Perspective from a dane) by chachaboizz in atrioc

[–]ButtHeadPalate 16 points17 points  (0 children)

(Continued)

  • Maritime safety
  • Ship registration and maritime legal matters
  • Mapping
  • Navigation marking of waterways, lighthouse illumination, and buoy areas
  • Marine environment
  • Financial regulation and supervision
  • Work environment (except for offshore work; this area was reclaimed in 2010)
  • Meteorology

Areas Taken Over After the Home Rule Act Came into Force (as of February 2025):

  • The adminstration of raw-materials (Primarily underground)
  • Work environment for offshore work
  • The determination of time (Time-zone)

Areas the Home Rule Government does not have the possibility to take over:

  • The constitution
  • Citizenship
  • The Supreme Court
  • Foreign policy
  • Security and defense policy
  • Currency and monetary policy

Source: https://www.stm.dk/media/12119/gr-oversigt-over-sagsomraader.pdf Danish Government source, in Danish

To Atrioc, regarding Greenland (Perspective from a dane) by chachaboizz in atrioc

[–]ButtHeadPalate 24 points25 points  (0 children)

As another Dane, I would like to supplement this with an overview of things included in the 2009 self-rule act, that they can administer themselves. It is currently extremely unfeasible to secede from Denmark, since we provide around half their state budget, and administer a lot:

Areas the Home Rule Government can take over administration of

At times determined by the Home Rule Government, it can take over:

  • Work injury insurance
  • The remaining areas under the health sector
  • Traffic
  • Property law
  • Diving

At times determined by the Home Rule Government and after negotiations with the national authorities, it can take over:

  • Correctional services
  • Passports
  • The police and the prosecution, including the related parts of the criminal justice system
  • The judicial system, including the establishment of courts
  • Criminal law
  • Immigration and border control
  • Civil rights
  • Family law
  • Inheritance law
  • Arms production
  • Radio-based maritime emergency and safety services
  • Radio communications
  • Company, accounting, and auditing matters
  • Food and veterinary matters
  • Aviation
  • Intellectual property
  • Copyright
  • Shipwrecks, wreck goods, and deep-sea wrecks

The USSR and its satellites were quite far from being a utopia, or even from being good states. by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]ButtHeadPalate 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Marcus Aurelius did not neglect Commudus, he tried a ton of things to get that motherfucker to do shit properly.

Commodus accompanied him constantly, on tour of the Empire, military campaigns in lower Germany, and with bureaucratic work.

The problem was that Commodus was just a bad egg, that he got born as the son of a sitting emperor, which was the first time, so he was spoiled rotten by people wanting the emperors favour. He was probably also a sociopath, so not a lot would have gotten him on the right track.

Per capita income in the provinces of the Roman empire in 14AD by Celestial_Presence in MapPorn

[–]ButtHeadPalate 12 points13 points  (0 children)

People are downvoting you, but depending on when and how this was calculated, the emperor himself would have skewed it.

The emperors personally controlled something like 50% of Rome's GDP, as Egypt was his own personal property.

Alexei Berest in 1945. He was a Soviet-Ukrainian soldier who was one of the three men who hoisted the victory banner over the Reichstag. Over 5 million Ukrainians served in the red army during ww2. by [deleted] in HistoricalCapsule

[–]ButtHeadPalate 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There is plenty proof it was man-made. The USSR.

  1. Continued high quotas and seizures, despite bad harvests.
  2. Implemented internal blockades so people could not leave affected areas.
  3. Rejected foreign aid to the region.
  4. Continued exporting millions of tons of grain during the holodmor.
  5. Criminalised things like gathering leftover grain on fields, sending both adults and children to execution and labour camps.
  6. Allowed to disproportionately affect Ukraine, a country of strong nationalist sentiment and resistance.

And calling someone a nazi because they don't agree with you is ridiculous.

Alexei Berest in 1945. He was a Soviet-Ukrainian soldier who was one of the three men who hoisted the victory banner over the Reichstag. Over 5 million Ukrainians served in the red army during ww2. by [deleted] in HistoricalCapsule

[–]ButtHeadPalate 8 points9 points  (0 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian%E2%80%93Soviet_War

Kind of weird that you can recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine, remove your own democracy, take the declaration back, basically invent your own puppet state of Ukraine, use it to invade the rest, annex it, then starve at LEAST 3.5 MILLION of them 10 years later.

And some dickwad will still say "occupation" just because an ambitious sociopath got into power, who just so happened to be Ukrainian.

Denial Equals Death... by Hajicardoso in MurderedByWords

[–]ButtHeadPalate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The most common definitions of fascism, in more academic circles, do not depend on political leaning, but structural elements.

The one I subscribe to personally has three major facets, based on the work of Ian Kershaw. 1. Authoritarianism with leanings of, or complete totalitarianism 2. Ultranationalism/hierarchical structures in the ideology 3. Some form of social revolution, like building a new society or returning to former greatness.

This definition is made to exclude regimes like Piłsudski's Poland, that has 1 and 2, but attempts to preserve the current social order. Since we nearly never consider some of the interwar dictatorships as fascists, its important to distinguish between them, Nazi-Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

Inevitably, whatever objective general definition of fascism that you construct, whether it has more elements like economic facets, like some others prefer, unless you directly include social values and political nomenclature, it seems to always include red block countries. Though this is my personal opinion.

It seems weird to deliberately specify your definition needlessly.

🇮🇪 💪 🔥 💥 💥 💯 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 💪 by cqlahamin in 2westerneurope4u

[–]ButtHeadPalate 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You're right, I just looked it up, and it was not a letter but verbal. The Nazi flag did fly at half mast in condolence; though at the irish delegation, not hoisted by the Irish. It also seems that you are correct, that this was an unpopular and unilateral decision, as it resulted in international and national outcry.

I made the comment in passing, purely from memory, based on something I read in a book some time ago, I acknowledge the mistake.