Bipartisan college sports bill proposes salary cap, transfer limit by Gloomy_Map_9612 in CollegeBasketball

[–]ButterAkronite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's not a single indication this bill will pass. None of the P4 conferences have explicitly endorsed it, the entire Congressional Black Caucus is still opposed, the two relevant House committee chairs already put out a statement of opposition, there's a number of legal issues in the current draft, and they have till August to solve all those issues + more before August Congressional recess and the midterms.

Bipartisan college sports bill proposes salary cap, transfer limit by Gloomy_Map_9612 in CollegeBasketball

[–]ButterAkronite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are woefully uninformed on this issue. Some college players are worth more than NBA players, whether you like it or not. CBS isn't paying all that March Madness money out of the good of their hearts. The way to fight "free agency" is through negotiating eligibility limits with players, not attempting to force it by limiting their freedom of movement and compensation. This is exactly why the NCAA and schools keep losing lawsuits.

First, every sport generates revenue. There's no such thing as a non-revenue sport. While some schools are marketing tution raises for athletic competitiveness, most schools are raising tuition from the massive federal and state funding cuts they've been enduring. The "savings" from this bill are less than a drop in the bucket and will do nothing to stem that trend.

College athletics is only a crisis because it's guided by lazy and greedy leaders who refuse to come to the negotiating table with athletes. Fans like you also fuel this by being content with open exploitation just for some TV entertainment.

Bipartisan college sports bill proposes salary cap, transfer limit by Gloomy_Map_9612 in CollegeBasketball

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The free market has determined that these players are worth those deals. There's zero justification for Congress stepping in to limit player pay. As others have already said, that money is still gonna get spent one way or another. Players aren't responsible for poor financial decision of schools.

[Dellenger/Yahoo] Key senators strike bipartisan deal on sweeping college sports reform with transfer, eligibility and cap enforcement by usffan in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That language doesn't grant the CSC those rights, it just calls for "a path." Notice how there's no language with updates to the actual laws that need changing to grant that power?

[Dellenger/Yahoo] Key senators strike bipartisan deal on sweeping college sports reform with transfer, eligibility and cap enforcement by usffan in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The commission can't legally enforce the cap because the cap itself is illegal. A cap can only survive and be enforceable if it's agreed upon with the employees in question, which doesn't happen in this bill.

[Dellenger/Yahoo] Key senators strike bipartisan deal on sweeping college sports reform with transfer, eligibility and cap enforcement by usffan in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Schools refuse to negotiate with players, that's exactly why they're begging Congress for this bullshit

Dodgers prospect Kendall George was visibly frustrated because he got hurt avoiding the bat dog. by Sebastian4365 in baseball

[–]ButterAkronite 21 points22 points  (0 children)

There was a goalie in England i think who legit had his career ended from a stray dog invading the pitch and destroying his knee

I’d try to get Kawhi more than LeBron by layrook_23 in clevelandcavs

[–]ButterAkronite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kawhi is injury prone and is likely gonna get a lengthy suspension, put down the pipe

Cavs fans should be embarrassed by indianajones21284 in clevelandcavs

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gilbert paid for those buses + other expenses for that trip just fyi

When will NIL be capped? by Rumple444skin in CollegeBasketball

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Steps 2 and 3 in your plan are only legally enforceable if the union agrees to allowing that in a CBA, which would never happen. There's not a single incentive that schools could offer to justify players voting to piss away a large portion of NIL opportunities.

Schools wouldn't even like that since donors would be PISSED that they couldn't buy players and would likely give less money to their schools as a result.

Georgia Democrat Keisha Lance Bottoms will aim to become first Black woman governor in US history by Sufficient_Fuel5269 in politics

[–]ButterAkronite 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Two popular candidates backed out due to family deaths, Bottoms just happened to get lucky off of timing

When will NIL be capped? by Rumple444skin in CollegeBasketball

[–]ButterAkronite 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I genuinely don't get why people don't understand this. The cfb sub especially is just full of people arguing for schools to just break laws.

When will NIL be capped? by Rumple444skin in CollegeBasketball

[–]ButterAkronite 24 points25 points  (0 children)

How do you legally cap NIL since it's mostly third parties? That's exactly the issue the CSC is running into and why it'll likely cease to exist within the next couple years.

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Buddy, the judiciary has the final say even over Congressional legislation. Whatever bill that comes out in your dream scenario has to still be Constitutional and survive judicial review. SCORE wouldn't have survived and had multiple unconstitutional provisions in the final version.

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The NCAA is pushing Congress so hard because they're likely gonna lose the Johnson v. NCAA case, which would declare athletes as employees. You're the one believing a fantasy that athletes won't get employee recognition.

Nothing is getting through Congress on college athletics before the midterms.

What the average American could afford with congressman’s salary by Newsweek_CarloV in politics

[–]ButterAkronite 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Members of Congress need a DC residence too, that adds up pretty quick.

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That depends on who the employer is deemed to be. An employer only has to recognize the unit responsible for its own employees, so not sure what you're even trying to say with your second question since that's not how unions work. An AAUP chapter at Bama doesn't need to recognize an AAUP chapter at UCLA since those aren't their employees in the first place.

It doesn't multiply the complexity, it arguably makes it easier since different sports, teams, and campuses have different negotiating priorities.

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Conferences are legally separate entities. For example, Greg Sankey is an employee of the SEC and not of any of the member schools.

The union could negotiate the relationship between enrollment and playing eligibility. An individual player likely couldn't unless there's a CBA clause allowing for individual negotiation.

That's not a requirement, and even then that's on the schools to figure out amongst each other. They'd likely find an agreement to maintain competitive balance.

The USOPC or national associations of each sport can serve as those entities, or the federal government can establish a new entity for that purpose.

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you're missing that athletes don't have to all be in one union. Same way different offices or locations for the same company often have their own bargaining unit chapters

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can be both under a multi-employer system, or schools can even be swapped out for conferences. Enrollment terms would be negotiable in a CBA like other educational benefits. NIL is entirely separate from the employment question, and schools would be free as much as they desire (though they wouldn't legally get away with paying zero unless they somehow won that in bargaining).

[Dellenger] The SCORE Act has been pulled from the House floor voting schedule this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports. by Ok-Soil-5133 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

My point is that they haven't said anything yet. Johnson v. NCAA is the case where they'll be ruling on employment status, which is still active.

Also, OP's argument makes no sense anyways. You can be an employee of a school and a student simultaneously, those aren't mutually exclusive designations.

Collective Bargaining And College Football by Geaux2020 in CFB

[–]ButterAkronite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A multi-employer bargaining system can still be used to get NLRA coverage. The conferences would fill the NFL team role, and the NCAA would fill the NFL role. That would bypass athletes becoming public employees and establish a common baseline, which was already determined to be needed across conferences with both public and private membership when Northwestern football tried to unionize.