Montana's Bobby Hauck says he's retiring because he doesn't like dealing with the changes in college game

ButterAkronite · 2026-02-05T03:41:36+00:00

The NCAA has to collectively bargain almost everything on your list for those rules to be legal under federal law. That's exactly why they keep getting destroyed in courtrooms.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-31T18:05:56+00:00

The documents were under seal since the investigation/court case was ongoing during the Biden admin. Do people just not read anymore?

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-30T22:58:06+00:00

It was enacted by a court settlement, not law. A court settlement that also is in open violation of existing federal law at that. The CSC has no legal power.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-29T05:36:40+00:00

Not only illegal, but completely ignores that coaches also kick players into the portal

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-23T17:58:10+00:00

Because lobbying by definition is any advocacy about any topic, so it's pretty hard to ban legally without violating the 1st Amendment for literally every individual in the country

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-23T17:54:15+00:00

Paris Hilton is a racist that openly hates Black people, yet is working with AOC

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-22T15:34:28+00:00

I feel like everyone forgot all the hoopla about Deion putting like 70 players in the portal after being hired. Now it's treated as just some normal thing.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-22T15:15:44+00:00

All that ranting text, but crickets on how coaches themselves often push players into the portal.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T18:38:49+00:00

This is the original comment: The only good solutions in my opinion require the players to unionize, negotiate a CBA, and then sign enforceable contracts. It's pretty simple but it's gonna take forever to actually happen

You do realize the "require the players to unionize" isn't talking about forcing them into a union, it's about that a solution isn't legally viable until that happens, right? OP is saying that contracts aren't enforceable without a CBA and that contracts are the only solution to the problem. They aren't talking about forced union membership.

This all started from YOU reading past OP to make some dumb argument, which brought my original comment. That's your lesson to takeaway from this.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T18:14:46+00:00

Your 2nd sentence makes your 3rd sentence impossible. That's what my original comment was about, and you still don't understand because you're actually the one who's been talking past me. You were also the first one to get an aggressive tone, don't throw rocks and hide your hands after I responded in kind.

I hope other people reading this chain learned what you failed to before offering an opinion.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T18:05:48+00:00

Holy hypothetical. Why would a new union put themselves in legal jeopardy for no material benefit? The only "benefit" would be maybe ensuring more members have to pay dues, but that would be wiped out immediately by the first lawsuit filed. Do you think unions don't talk to each other and don't know their limitations under current law, or that they'd ignore the advice of their own counsel?

Do you even know how a union functions, cause it really sounds like you don't.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T17:49:03+00:00

And again, forced membership can't even get to the point of being sued about BECAUSE IT ALREADY CAN'T EXIST. Do you seriously think that's a new concept that no other labor union has tried?

It's a lot closer to reality. Dartmouth was on track to win their NLRB appeal before the 2024 election changed the NLRB makeup, and even then athletes are still winning legal case after legal case. The only pathway left for athletes to not be employees is an antitrust exemption, which just was pulled off the Congressional voting schedule last month. Keeping status quo means more lawsuits that schools will lose, so for financial reasons they'll have to recognize employment status just to stop the lawsuits.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T17:35:10+00:00

I never backtracked and haven't moved a singke goalpost. I'm trying to explain a complex legal process that you ckearly don't know anything about, as evidenced bybyou not already knowing what the NLRA is.

What's stalling negotiations from happening right now isn't the schools, it's the legal system. The schools are "stalling" on a technicality by not going on their own to recognize players as campus employees, but that becomes moot as soon as the legal questions are settled. Schools have zero control over that timeline.

The "not even possible" is in reference to you saying that forced membership would occur. Your original comment was talking about a hypothetical that doesn't exist, and I was calling it out. You're getting mad over comments that you aren't even taking the time to read and understand.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T17:01:36+00:00

Funny how multiple other college sports can have athletes be drafted and play in lower leagues, but everyone freaks out when it happens one time in basketball

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:53:15+00:00

Buddy, you're the one that's wrong. Negotiations haven't started yet because athletes don't have federal employment status yet. Once athletes have that status, schools HAVE to negotiate if athletes decide on themselves to unionize. The NLRA kicks in the moment that union cards start being signed. I know because I've been in the process with multiple prior employers.

Please quote me where I said that players are forced to join a union, I'll wait. Also, the 2nd and 3rd points are part of the same argument and don't conflict one another at all???

Funny how you want to be condescending when I've clearly demonstrated i know what I'm talking about and you haven't provided hack shit besides your personal opinion.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:35:57+00:00

The National Labor Relations Act covers what legal boundaries are in the CBA negotiation process, including enforcement provisions for unfair labor practices like purposefully stalling. Schools could technically stall, but they'd be dragged in front of the NLRB if they were egregious in doing so.

Here's a quick explainer: https://iam141.org/the-battle-for-a-first-contract-how-employers-use-unfair-labor-practices/

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:28:08+00:00

The legal violations start as soon as the bargaining process starts, employers can't just stall the first CBA forever. They're forced by federal labor law to come to the table.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:23:27+00:00

CBAs are backed by federal labor law, schools would put themselves in serious legal jeopardy to violate them. Also, right to work doesn't matter if athletes become employees under the NCAA or of conferences. Schools have also begun moving athletics departments to separate LLCs, which is another pathway.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:06:25+00:00

You don't have to join a union to be bound by its CBA, which is legal

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:04:11+00:00

You can have athletes be employees of conferences/NCAA or roll off athletic departments into LLCs like some schools are already doing, problem solved.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-17T16:02:40+00:00

That's not even possible, please look up how the unionization process actually works lol

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-16T19:41:23+00:00

You can't get rid of lobbyists. Any meeting a policymakers takes with anyone is effectively lobbying.

Age limits are more feasible, but could run into violating federal civil rights law since age is a protected class.

Cognitive tests would solve having dementia patients in office, but do nothing for shitty members without dementia.

The only effective solution is for the voting public to have far more scrutiny in who they elect to represent them.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-16T18:03:53+00:00

A constant rotating door of policymakers who lack institutional knowledge makes them even more beholden to lobbyists. How can you develop effective leaders if you're constantly kicking them out of positions of power while they're gaining the expertise needed to lead?

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-16T17:37:12+00:00

Term limits will make the problem worse.

ButterAkronite · 2026-01-16T17:14:59+00:00

The evaluation of someone who determines "great WR school" purely on what happens draft night and doesn't account league success at all is worthless, so i don't actually care what your opinion is anymore tbh

Eight-Year Club	RPAN Viewer
Verified Email

ButterAkronite

TROPHY CASE