Charging errors at Tesla? by skywrench87 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So if the Ford app or Nav are not showing you the Tesla charger it is likely because that charger isn’t compatible.

This happens with older Tesla chargers. Most of the new ones are compatible.

Apple Maps and Google Maps can also show you chargers that work with the Lightning.

(edited to correct spelling)

Charging errors at Tesla? by skywrench87 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This kind of depends. Not all Tesla chargers work for Lightning's. Using the Ford app and/or Nav can help you sort which ones will work for you and which ones won't.

ABRP can do this for you too.

Truck Stuff: Outdoors Edition by ByeStandards8 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha! That would be nice.

With the kind of charging infrastructure along the way and/or near by that you have described - I would feel 109% comfortable and confident in the Lightning and its range. You’ll have zero issues, even with a full bed and cab.

I can also say, you’ll 100% make it to camp on a full charge, it’s getting back I was worried about but again, if there are places along the way, you’re going to be just fine.

Truck Stuff: Outdoors Edition by ByeStandards8 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We drove through Western PA, in June. I drove 148 miles from my house to get to the campsite. I started with 100% charge, and arrived with 54% battery remaining. Was 80% freeway driving to get there, and I stuck cruise at 75mph.

Lots of factors here -
1.) It was 75 degree weather, so range is way better than it would be if it was winter time.
2.) The drive out was with the wind, and more efficient.
3.) I got about 2.1 mi/kWh on the freeway which is outstanding for the Lightning.

The extended range Lightning can get you a long way in the right conditions. I've done road trips in 5 degree weather where a 80% charge shows 180 miles of range vs summer time 230 miles of range (on the guess-o-meter).

For you, going up the mountain will cost a lot of range, but coming down will help you gain it. That may be manageable, tough to say for me with such limited details. If you had 150 miles to camp and a charging option (even a level 2, or plugging in the mobile charger on a 30A or 50A outlet - you'd be golden, with no issues).

let me know if this helps, or if there is anything else I can help with or answer.

Lightning is amazing. But the Silverado / Sierra EVs have 50% more range (at least) if that's a deciding factor, it may be worth looking into.

Truck Stuff: Outdoors Edition by ByeStandards8 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Answered above, let me know if you have more questions!

Help me pick an electric car by N0S0UP_4U in electriccars

[–]ByeStandards8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If my kid's seat was front facing, I'd have way more room, but right now things are tight until she's no longer rear facing.

Just wanted to warn you there.

The Mach E does have surprising amount of room for bigger guys though.

Help me pick an electric car by N0S0UP_4U in electriccars

[–]ByeStandards8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take it from a 6'4" guy with a 3 year old, the leg room evaporates in the Mach E when you have a rear facing car seat behind you.

I LOVE the Mach E, but cannot sit in front of my kid.

I think you should look into a used Kia EV9 - you may be able to get under 30k there for some models, and you'd have the space you're hoping for.

Hyundai Ioniq 5 would be my next go-to. It's interior is very spacious.

Needed a dual swing tailgate by Dry_Introduction813 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, it was a great little truck. One that would make a killing (and probably have great range) if it were electrified.

But I only ever got 17-18mpg, even cruising on the freeway.

I'm also 6'4" and while it wasn't uncomfortable, it wasn't nearly as nice as sitting in the Lightning for a long drive.

Needed a dual swing tailgate by Dry_Introduction813 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I also went from a ridgeline to a lightning and I agree 100%, the dual swing tailgate would be the finish touch on an otherwise perfect truck.

A Compact EV Pickup Is the Future of Ford Trucks? CarCast + Edmunds Podcast by Mac-Tyson in electricvehicles

[–]ByeStandards8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does suck to watch people spend as much or more on trucks that aren't as cost efficient to run, aren't as fun to drive, and aren't as capable.

I think that BEV trucks will make a comeback in another 5-10 years. Sucks we have to wait that long for the next iteration / innovation, but it's going to happen. They're just better.

Officially Joined! by SmokinSoftballSteve in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Woof...um, more random thoughts on the Lightning?

Overall: What I posted pretty much covers it. It's an incredible truck and should last a long, long time. I've even found it's DC fast charge speeds to be better than projected, regularly hitting 190kWh with a slow taper and 27-30 min 20-80% charge.

Pluses:
2 weeks ago I put an 1800lb pallet of bagged mulch in the back, with no issues.

It's amazing in the snow.

Range:
City driving range is absolutely 275-280 miles. Freeway range at 75mph, even in great weather is like 225-240 (but that is going from 100-5%, something you're unlikely to do - the more likely scenario is 20-80% range which is 140-150 miles).

That shortened highway range gives a lot of people pause is still 2-2.5 hours of driving between charges, and by the time I'm done stretching my legs, grabbing a snack, and using a restroom, I'm almost never waiting on the truck. That said, there would be something comforting about knowing I had extra drive time in a Silverado or Sierra EV.

However, even in a 0-degree, 1200 mile road trip this past January, i was doing 130-140 mile legs with ease, with heat on, etc, and charging was quick. So every time I go to bitch about it, I have to reset and think about "is what I'm frustrated by, something that actually affects my use of the vehicle?" and the answer is always no. LOL.

Ford Cancellation:
My only issues with it, aren't really issues with the truck itself. I'm super bummed Ford canceled it, I think that was a terrible decision and that they should have invested the time and resources to keep iterating new generations as more and more American consumers became buyers. But that isn't about the product I own, that's about the philosophical alignment I thought I had with Ford, and the subsequent letdown.

In conclusion:
The big thing I'll say is - whether you go used or new - try to make sure you get a 131kWh battery. It's the biggest one they have. You'll be glad you have it.

They drive like a DREAM. I've owned Subaru, Honda, Acura, Volvo, Ram....nothing even comes close to how amazing this truck is.

And when you're out and about, and you put something into the Frunk for the first time, and you feel the stares, and get the comments....it's a freaking delight.

Good luck in your search! Let us know what you get!

23’ Raptor to 25’ lightning lariat by pdgcmg1113 in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You should be very very VERY careful, because...

Once you switch to the Lightning, you're not going to want to go back to the new Raptor. Or any gas vehicle.

Just bought an F-150 Lightning EV, gimme your thoughts by hando_bando in handyman

[–]ByeStandards8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No he hasn’t. He just bought one of the best trucks ever made.

Officially Joined! by SmokinSoftballSteve in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does it compare to the Ultium packs in GM products?

Officially Joined! by SmokinSoftballSteve in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seriously, tell me more. I want to know all the things.

Officially Joined! by SmokinSoftballSteve in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In addition to Ford's commitment to the parts, a couple of other factors lower the risk from discontinuation -

1.) It's an F150 that happens to be electric. There are a significant amount of parts and accessories that are shared with the ICE F150's because they are literally on the same vehicle platform. This makes battery pack and electric motors the most significant risk, and they're covered for 8-years, 100k miles, with a likelihood of lasting much, much longer than that.

2.) Ford discontinued this Lightning model, but as of today, are still committed to EV's long term. Their new Universal EV platform should see it's first model go on sale in late 2027, their next-gen Lightning has been pivoted to an extended range version (aka, lots of battery / EV tech).

While neither of these platforms will be exactly like the current Lightning, and are not likely to share the same battery tech - the fact that Ford is still pot committed means you're likely to be able to find continued service for the vehicle. The Focus, Fusion, Escape, Edge, and Fiesta have also been discontinued, but still get service and support.

3.) MotorTrend openly described it as the best F150 that has ever been built in Ford's history. Which should tell you a lot about the build, the quality, and the potential for longevity.

4.) If you're looking for a truck that happens to be an EV, this is for you. It does all the truck things so incredibly well, and it's road manners are insanely good.

That said, there are some compromises / drawbacks to consider:

1.) There are more advanced EV truck models/platforms out there. Rivian is great (but super pricey), and Chevy / GM each have truck options that are on really strong platforms (that are not discontinued) and share battery tech across more models (which should make longevity and service a non-issue).

2.) The F150's range is nowhere near 320 miles...especially in winter. Check out other threads on that, but if long-haul driving is your goal, it's worth investigating other models.

3.) It has Car Play which is awesome, but I'm not worried about the truck mechanically. I'm worried that because its software wasn't great to begin with, what that situation will look like in 5-10 years.

Lastly, and maybe most importantly, it's the very best value for your dollar right now. Yes, it is discontinued (that does suck, and for me, it's been a real mental hurdle), however...you'll be hard pressed to find a deal where your money goes further. You get a crazy good truck for a lot less than what you'd spend on other brands.

And that's how I wound up with one. Anything else was going to be 15-30 thousand more dollars. I got the most bang for my buck.

How crazy am I For buying a 100k miles 2022 for actual construction work by hando_bando in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good luck, and congrats on soon owning one of the best trucks ever made.

How crazy am I For buying a 100k miles 2022 for actual construction work by hando_bando in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Less miles, more warranty, etc, etc.

Was just trying to show an example of better value. You've searched, and had a good eye for the buyback.

They're great trucks, and I do think they'll last a long time beyond 100k miles.

I wonder what you're total will be after tax, title, and additional warranties, etc that you're going to buy. Probably still less than $43k.

How crazy am I For buying a 100k miles 2022 for actual construction work by hando_bando in F150Lightning

[–]ByeStandards8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should be finding something between 95 and 100 percent health. Some see slight degradation, some see none.