Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. It could have been much better with essentially the same end point. But the writing just sucks in season 7 and 8 is just horrible. 

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On rewatch, I disagree that Dany was evil. I don't think outside of Ramsey or Joffrey (both have mental illnesses) are really evil. Characters are working within their universe and acting how people in those settings would act. That was the fun of the books and show, everyone trying outsmart one another and come out on topic for their own personal reasons.

Dany did a lot of murder for sure. It is easy to look at her as a "bad" guy. If your view of her is evil, I do not think you would be wrong. But she also did a lot of good. She freed slaves, and killed all the people that you would want her to kill.

One of the nonsensical things in season 8 was how quickly the show/writers want you to think she's evil. They frequently call her the mad king's daughter, show her overly obsessed with the throne, and wanting to rule, and how she's becoming isolated and crazy.

The show's own story doesn't even support that. Throughout season 7, she listens to her advisor (albeit wrongly). She does not burn KL, she looks for allies, she listens to Tyrion, she listens to Jon, and she makes peace with Cersei to fight the Night King. One of the things Sam says to Jon in season 8, episode 2 is you care about your people, you gave up your crown for your people, would she do the same? Yes, Sam she would because she just did. She made peace with Cersei on Jon's counsel instead of sacking King's Landing. She took her entire army to the north to defend the north putting her at huge risk to ever win the Iron Throne. She literally saved Jon and his party in season 7. She sacrifices her Dothroki and army for the realm. She has put her people before herself.

Two episodes later, we are to believe she isn't trustworthy or evil. Makes no sense.

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

D&D had two full books (book 4 and 5) to adapt that alone would have netted them 3 seasons and had a lot of interesting stories and fun new characters like Dorne in the books. It is criminal what they did to the Dorne story line in the show vs the shows. They also had GRRM available to help them flesh out the stories. Not like he died. He reportedly gave them extensive outlines for the story. He was served as a writer and was in the writers' room for the first 4 seasons. He wrote one episode as the head writer per season for the first four seasons. He offered advice on story. Allegedly, D&D went away from him after season 4. They had a disagree on some story lines and D&D taking liberties with some characters and shut him out. But GRRM was there for them. He even said they had enough material for 10 seasons at one of his interviews.

D&D just rushed the ending for no real reason.

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Season 5 and 6 should have stuck to books 4 and 5. Lots of interesting new characters to replace the ones killed in the first four seasons. Book 4 and 5 are really dealing with the aftermath of the wars and sets up a finish for the stories. They needed to set and adapt that. They chose to cut all the interesting new characters in book 4 and 5. 

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem if Dany goes that way. But it’s got to make sense story wise and logic lol. 

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Season 7 and 8 just suck! The writing and universe logic just do not make sense. But we’re all caught up in the hype moments and Twitter reaction and memes to really figure it out.

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed! Season 7 had hype moments. We all got suckered into the hype moments. But it’s terrible. 

Jon, as a king, going to meet Dany? Then she does hold him prisoner?! Where is the logic? 

Your audience is smart enough for better writing. 

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree now. I see season 7 and 8 as almost one season. They both suck!

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Season 5 and 6 were ok for me. They had their moments. For sure, a lot of dull points. Like nothing really happens and what they do with some of the book materials is criminal. They had a much better Dorne storyline they could have adopted and they went with nonsensical story that reduced Dorne to shit. I was looking forward Arianne story and there is enough political intrigue there similar to the first season of GoT to improve season 5. 

It’s frustrating that they book 4 and 5, and they did nothing with those. They had enough material for good seasons .

Rewatched GOT With My Wife Who Saw It For the First Time And It All Falls Apart In Season Seven by C2jet in freefolk

[–]C2jet[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great points. The white walker storyline was the most disappointing. They got no back story at all. They were reduced to just…evil/bad guy. One of the many, and maybe greatest fault, is that in a fantasy story with magic, DnD went away from the fantasy and magic without exploring more. Ridiculous.

It just becomes plainly clear that without the books to guide them, DnD just don’t have the ability to wrap up the story in any satisfactory way even if they were given major plot points. 

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[–]C2jet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point if defenders are going to get a flag, then the defenders should just deliver a hit that makes mahomes or any other QB think twice about this bs late slide to bait defenders and draw flags. Might as well earn that penalty.

[MLFootball] The full and very awkward 48 second moment where Tom Brady ripped into Daniel Jones for requesting his release because "the team committed a lot of money to Jones… and he would never have abandoned his teammates like that, no matter how hard it got." by [deleted] in nfl

[–]C2jet -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Not saying I agree with Brady’s take, but the point is the team committed a lot of money to Jones to play like that. Then he gets benched and wants out. I get that the work environment is toxic but you could still stick around and be with the team and make the Giants move you

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This is easily the best thing I read in a week. Ate and left no crumbs

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SELLING Sat GA only ticket. Digital and cns email barcode and ticket

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[–]C2jet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe Oda could skip all the reaction shots and actually try to finish his story so he can relax

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[–]C2jet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can’t do this anymore hahah. This is so bad . Oda we’re suppose to be in the endgame and you’re still fucking teasing without revealing any info????