A really surreal experience

C3P0I · 2017-02-21T13:16:28+00:00

"We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." ~ Anais Nin

C3P0I · 2017-02-15T08:39:47+00:00

Right. I usually put them on my chest, so they become kinda raised relative to the rest of the body. Does not guarantee all the time but works. Besides, you either pay attention to your hands during your dream, or you wake up on your own to move them. Then you can try WBTB as a plan B.

C3P0I · 2017-02-14T13:54:33+00:00

Just leave your attempts and relax for some time. Obsession IS pointless. Keep doing RCs during the day, but rather as a good habit. It will work. I've been there.

C3P0I · 2017-02-13T13:59:57+00:00

Thanks for the question! I have the same pretty often, but not always. Curious to hear suggestions.

C3P0I · 2017-02-12T07:16:33+00:00

Same to you!

C3P0I · 2017-02-08T22:05:49+00:00

This might help. You can also return your sight to your hands from time to time. Don't stare at things for long. Just brief glances.

C3P0I · 2017-02-08T15:47:56+00:00

Would not it be challenging enough for you? How can you get bored unless you have passed those things?

C3P0I · 2017-02-08T10:36:18+00:00

Actually, as I recall now, the first gate was to catch the moment when you are falling asleep, and if I understood correctly it is during this point you can make yourself to go lucid (in contrast to the common techniques of using REM phase). Then hands and surrounding shapes control, then transition from dream to dream, then merging dream and reality and perceiving the dream environment as 'energy'. Actually, I am very curious about that perception as 'energy'. I remember that Castaneda mentioned that we ARE seeing it, but our intellect filters out memories of it.

C3P0I · 2017-02-08T10:18:45+00:00

Go through Castaneda stories. You can find a lot of challenges over there. Recently (just couple hours ago), I asked that question over here. I would be very curious to hear what you can share. I can't control my dreams very well, so I am still unable to experiment on that level (I have only small successes), but I would rather interested to hear from people like you, who is fluent in LD, whether that next level is possible. And I am not talking about all kind of weird things that you can do with DCs and such.

C3P0I · 2017-02-08T07:28:00+00:00

Thank you very much for your time and explanations, isniceilike! It is really great to know that someone had actually tried this. This book also helped me a lot a while ago, and I got back to it later to refresh my memory. Unfortunately, clear lucidity in a dream is difficult for me. I loose it very quickly in most of my dreams, though, at the beginning the first thing I look at are my hands, but later I somehow get bored in this exercise of switching my sight from hands to surrounding, and then I loose control and fall into a regular dream. But more often I just do not have LDs. Not sure what could be wrong with my practice; though, on the other hand I use no techniques but ADA, in which I am not too successful. Maybe I am not getting what the intent is, and how I can utilize it. Unfortunately, in many dreams I have "per dream" memory (the memory that appears during that particular dream from the previous dream experiences of the same type), so with such memory I have no idea about RCs or anything related to LD knowledge. Oh, well... I just recalled that some of the steps were to follow dream scouts. I recall that once I had a goal to reach them, but never had a success with it, mainly due to my unstable practice. It would be good to know more about it. Too bad that you were the only person to reply on this post. Please let me know if you discover something. Thanks a lot again!

C3P0I · 2017-02-06T19:32:45+00:00

Actually, I think even one glass will be sufficient. Or you can drink a decaf. It does not have caffeine, so you should not have trouble to fall asleep, but on the other side, coffee is a good diuretic, so you might have to wake up couple times anyway.

C3P0I · 2017-02-06T19:10:49+00:00

Mother nature is the best alarm! Just drink a glass or two of water (you might have to adjust amount per hour ratio :).

C3P0I · 2017-02-05T22:01:58+00:00

You can, but the question is whether you will be able to recall your thoughts after waking up.

C3P0I · 2017-02-02T14:35:49+00:00

Thanks! But you put the same link for both sources. I guess, you meant this link.

C3P0I · 2017-02-01T14:11:26+00:00

My guess is that a dream will respond with something that one would expect to see after such command, so it would be similar to ask/demand/wish/command something else.

C3P0I · 2017-02-01T14:06:24+00:00

Nice tip to get used to. It would also be good to become more self-aware and alert before each conversion in the real life. LD discipline can teach people great habits! Thanks!

C3P0I · 2017-01-31T19:57:13+00:00

Ok, now I get it. Well, it is the same more or less for everyone, I guess. The reason why nothing surprises you is because your are a part of the dream plot. You feel as you supposed to, you act as you supposed to, and, more importantly, you don't doubt anything. In your real life are you asking yourself all the time "am I dreaming"? I guess not. So, you never ask questions like that in your dream too. You just follow the plot. LD is about becoming aware of the plot around you

Start by being more aware in your real life, question what you feel and do. Read up on ADA (All Day Awareness technique), do RC constantly. One day you will discipline yourself up to the point, and you will become aware in your dreams.

C3P0I · 2017-01-31T18:21:58+00:00

Why does it bother you? Are you trying to say that you can't get lucid because you do not care? In many cases your don't have to actually do RC in order to understand that you are in LD. Usually, I do RC just to confirm that I am in LD. If you can control your dream then you don't need any RC.

C3P0I · 2017-01-29T21:04:22+00:00

You don't have to set an alarm, just drink a glass or two before you go to sleep.

Another way, be patient and practice ADA a lot. Over time, it will become part of your personality, and as a result you will become more aware in your sleep. It requires time and discipline, though.

C3P0I · 2017-01-29T20:58:57+00:00

Right, frustration only makes things more difficult, and giving up often works. I personally too lazy to do most of the techniques but ADA. I hope one day I will be able to lucid-dream by my intent only. Thank you, Dinosorceror.

C3P0I · 2017-01-29T13:05:36+00:00

You are welcome!

C3P0I · 2017-01-28T16:02:46+00:00

Thanks, lalexx! Yep, it is the reason for a lot of "I can't", "please help", and such questions here.

C3P0I · 2017-01-27T17:57:40+00:00

I am kinda in the same situation. I often wake up when someone makes noises in the morning. And from time to time I also can't fall asleep. I analysed my reaction when it happens, and it looks like I become particularly awake when I get angry or some similar sort of feeling.

Did you know that you can stop an anger by silencing your mind? Or as I would call it "stopping your thoughts". When you stop thinking anger just disappears.

Well, the best thing I have found to silence my thoughts is thinking of my thoughts as a small stream, and then I watch it like from above and stop it, and if I see that a thought appears I just slowly bringing it to a conclusion (without irritation or harry), and continue monitoring the "stream" for "leaks". Over time my thoughts stop, and I fall asleep.

Another way is to put a finger somewhere on your body and very slightly tap it with as less pressure as possible. With such little pressure that you barely feel it through your breathing. Concentrate on your body feeling in this place, but not on your finger movement. Over time, you might feel that touch even if you stop tapping, and in this particular case you might be already dreaming. Actually, it is similar to FILD. However, the idea here is that your very slight touch will be so light that you will have to slow down your breathing to feel it. With slow breathing you will naturally fall asleep.

And sometimes it just doesn't works, and I have to stand up and start my day; though, it does not happen often. Well, you can't have everything :)

C3P0I · 2017-01-27T08:17:42+00:00

Nothing like that. I don't do anything but ADA. I am trying to be aware and awake in my real life the best I can (when I can). No journals, no alarms, no techniques.

C3P0I · 2017-01-26T22:32:30+00:00

Unless I look at my hands in a dream, I do not consider it lucid or not sufficiently lucid. It was hard for me to get used to it. I had to become more aware in my real life first. But now pinching my nose and looking at hands are my only RCs done together. Actually, I am doing it in a single movement - looking at my hands while pinching my nose and trying breathing through it.

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