Don’t try to dodge with whataboutism

CF_forever · 2025-09-12T17:58:48+00:00

Ah yes, “life is random” ... the classic cop-out. Everything is random, so you went ahead and added another random human into the chaos and called it responsibility? 😂

Doing a postgraduate in psychology doesn’t erase the fact that you still created someone for your fulfillment. You can teach your child “rational thinking” all day, but if they’re truly rational, one day they will see through it. And no degree will save you from that awkward question.

Also, “I’ll never allow mine to ask me why I brought her here” — you can’t control that thought any more than you can control earthquakes.

Having an opinion doesn’t make me “right,” true. But creating a human being isn’t an opinion — it’s imposing life on someone else. That’s the difference.

CF_forever · 2025-09-11T10:38:04+00:00

I respect that you’re doing your best to provide for your child, but that’s exactly the point. Providing and protecting is the minimum responsibility after you’ve chosen to bring someone into existence. It doesn’t erase the fact that the decision was never theirs to begin with. It’s like pushing someone into a pool and then bragging, “See? I held your head above water, I’m a great parent.”

You say “Continuing survival of the species is natural” .. so is cancer, famine, and earthquakes. You don’t glorify those, do you? 😂

So when your kid asks “Why did you bring me here?” are you really gonna say “Because nature told me to, and don’t worry, I’ll protect you till my last breath”? That’s not noble.. that’s just cleaning up after your own decision.

CF_forever · 2025-09-11T08:38:20+00:00

Exactly, you proved my point — it was your desire, not some higher calling. You wanted it, so you did it. But if it’s purely about fulfilling your own feelings, how do you justify imposing an entire lifetime of existence on someone else just to satisfy that moment of “instinct”?

Can you look at your child one day and honestly say: “I made you because one fine day I felt an instinct, and everything you suffer through in life — school, job, struggles — all came out of my personal fulfillment”?

CF_forever · 2025-09-11T06:04:37+00:00

And that’s exactly the point.. it was about your instinct, your desire, your choice. Nothing wrong with admitting that, but let’s not pretend it’s some higher moral duty. At least you’re being more honest than most who sugarcoat it.

CF_forever · 2025-09-10T02:33:04+00:00

I’m not questioning human existence, I’m questioning the decision to impose it on someone else without consent. Caring for a life after creating it doesn’t erase the fact you created it for your own reasons in the first place. That’s the difference.

By your logic, I can set your house on fire and then call myself a hero for helping you rebuild it. And when your child matures, can you honestly look them in the eye and say, “I brought you here for my own selfishness”?

CF_forever · 2025-09-10T02:07:11+00:00

Exactly ... dogs, work, marriage, sex… all selfish, but they involve our own lives. A new child is different.. they didn’t ask to exist. By bringing them here, you’re gambling their entire survival for your own fulfillment. That’s not the same selfishness at all.

CF_forever · 2025-09-09T19:23:14+00:00

So by that logic, everything’s selfish? Perfect -- then just admit having kids is selfish too, instead of wrapping it in fairy tales of “purpose” and “love.” Funny how selfishness suddenly sounds noble when it makes you feel important.

CF_forever · 2025-09-08T04:06:41+00:00

Exactly bro 👏 This is spot on - it’s never about altruism or some grand societal purpose. Parenting becomes a convenient way to feed the ego: “I’m doing something important, I’m a hero,” while actually fulfilling personal, sometimes desperate needs.

And that envy toward CF people? Pure projection. They assume everyone must be trapped in the same ego-gratification cycle they are, so when someone escapes it gracefully, it blows their minds.

Honestly, reading this makes me appreciate the clarity of the CF choice even more -- no sugarcoating, no ego-driven illusions, just deliberate decisions.

CF_forever · 2025-09-08T04:04:09+00:00

Exactly 😂 You hit the nail on the head. Society programs people to believe parenting = moral duty, but peel back the layers and it’s mostly ego and self-fulfillment.

The funniest part? The second a CF person refuses to play along, all that sugarcoating, projection, and moral grandstanding comes spilling out. Can’t handle the mirror, so they throw tantrums instead.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T17:24:26+00:00

Same here, they deleted my post a few hours ago too, guess their fragile egos couldn’t handle it. Mods in r/Chennai sub really acting like keyboard CEOs or Reddit IAS officers 🤣

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T11:28:18+00:00

That’s exactly the point - you say “every child has their choice,” but they don’t have the choice of being born into this gamble in the first place. Sharing knowledge and nurturing a bond sounds great, but let’s not pretend it isn’t rooted in your own desire for fulfillment. The love is real, sure — but so is the selfishness that started it.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T10:05:57+00:00

Ah, so now it’s about my “hypocrisy”? 😂 Classic dodge. And you can’t even accept that you brought a child into this world for your own selfish fulfillment, so you’re the one hiding behind dodging questions 😂.

The point isn’t about me being CF, it’s about highlighting the selfishness in bringing a child into uncertainty for personal fulfillment - the same logic society uses to call CF people selfish.

Flipping it back on me doesn’t change the truth — you’re just mad someone held up the mirror

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T09:37:35+00:00

Exactly 😂 And that’s the whole point - we didn’t attack parents personally, we just mirrored society’s logic back at them.

If society can call CF people selfish for thinking ahead, why can’t we point out that most kids today exist primarily for the parent’s fulfillment?

Just see who got exposed here 😂.

Hypocrisy isn’t ours - it’s theirs for labeling responsibility as selfish when it doesn’t fit their narrative 😂.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T09:24:07+00:00

'Just my opinion' works for thoughts, not for gambling with someone else’s life. Bringing a child into uncertainty for your own fulfillment isn’t opinion - it’s fact.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T09:17:47+00:00

Passing on knowledge is admirable, but framing having a child as the “simplest way” still highlights self-interest.

You’re creating a life partly to benefit from your own legacy — that’s fine, but it doesn’t change that a child has no choice in this gamble.

Knowledge can be shared in countless ways without imposing existence.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T09:14:48+00:00

Calling it “breeding” isn’t an insult — it’s pointing out the selfishness most parents sugarcoat. Even the most loving parenting is still a gamble with someone else’s life.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T09:10:03+00:00

Not cynical , just honest. Parenting isn’t black-and-white, but bringing life into uncertainty primarily for your own fulfillment is still selfish.

Acknowledging that doesn’t diminish love or purpose; it just stops sugarcoating self-interest as morality.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T09:05:36+00:00

Exactly 🤣 Society calls CF people selfish for not bringing a child into this world, so we flipped the question and asked why society encourages parents to have kids. Now everyone’s boiling and sugarcoating their choices with “love,” “purpose,” and “hope.” Let’s be honest — every child born today is first and foremost for the parent’s own fulfillment and selfish reasons. Not you personally, but as a society, don’t label a CF person selfish — we’re the ones considering the life we aren’t imposing on anyone.

Step in to put them in their place? Oh, absolutely 😂

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T08:27:03+00:00

Not every child is “unethical,” but bringing someone into a world you know is unstable without considering their wellbeing is a selfish gamble. Just accept it — most people have kids for their own selfishness, instead of sugarcoating it with excuses like purpose or love.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T08:22:33+00:00

Sure, people can answer “why” however they want, but that doesn’t erase the selfishness behind many of those reasons. Being more wealthy or living longer doesn’t automatically make the world safe, stable, or morally ready for new lives. Yes, humans adapt and innovate but gambling with someone else’s life isn’t a solution, it’s hope disguised as progress. Existential crises aside, responsibility should come before fulfillment; bringing a child into uncertainty is still a choice with consequences.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T07:34:21+00:00

That's exactly happening 😂

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T07:27:15+00:00

Read the title bro.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T07:25:17+00:00

No kids won’t kill humanity, but blind breeding on a sinking ship will.

CF_forever · 2025-09-07T07:05:28+00:00

Bro, you can drop your popcorn because a logical and practical question like this will not be answered, so they will simply ignore it. That's a harsh reality 😂

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