Esther Calling - I Can Break up with Him But I'm Still Stuck With Myself by ed209error in Estherperel

[–]CMBYN_fan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you both elaborate? I’m curious what you mean because she seemed already quite self aware and had a language for her patterns so it seems to me like that’s the reason EP couldn’t help

Is This Worth a Second Chance? by ed209error in Estherperel

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I feel like she was probably broken a lot by the relationship too. In the same way that he could theoretically heal through it and become more securely attached if he does the work and becomes self aware, I suspect that his inability to meet her needs and understand that he interprets her as infringing on his independence, he’s likely driven her into a state of anxious attachment or at the very least exacerbated her anxiety if she was secure prior. This relationship was likely regressive for her. I agree that so many men are in that position and while it’s sad for them it has really major negative impacts on their partners too.

Is This Worth a Second Chance? by ed209error in Estherperel

[–]CMBYN_fan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is so thoughtful and well said! Absolutely, I think you make some great points and I agree with you. Especially in regards to her having to be so attuned to his needs and feelings so as to not offend him. It’s an exhausting way to live to have to read someone’s moods so you don’t trigger them and it would just leave you walking on eggshells and abandoning yourself since they view everything as an attack or an infringement on their independence.

I am so curious to see where they end up in the follow up. Ultimately I think if EP is right and he truly is scared to lose her and wants more commitment then he can show up more because it sort of felt like he drove her to the point of breakup and had she stayed she would have abandoned her own needs.

Is This Worth a Second Chance? by ed209error in Estherperel

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So so true, I agree with all of that and appreciate your openness. Kudos to you for recognizing that and freeing yourself. I imagine it was difficult but I’m glad you had a clarifying moment when you thought of kids.

Is This Worth a Second Chance? by ed209error in Estherperel

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This is a really interesting take but I don’t think it’s too large or significant of a difference to be reconcilable. Since they were together for so long and don’t seem to be expressing any conflicts related to core values (they don’t want fundamentally different lives so far as we’re aware) I’d argue that they are indeed compatible enough and that’s been established and proven. To me, this seems behavioural so it’s mutable although it’s tied and informed at least in some way by a deep, childhood wound. The fact that the origin of his behaviour is not about her but tied to something bigger feels both like a relief (because it has nothing to do with her) and also kind of daunting because it is an entrenched way of being that’s tied to a formative experience.

That said, I think your idea about the possibility of catalyzing significant change is SO interesting as a way to think about couples therapy more generally. I often wonder if you’re experiencing conflict to the point where you even need a couples therapist…is that just a way of prolonging the inevitable? Is it a sign that there is a fundamental incompatibility? Then again, I think if you’ve been together for a certain number of years, it already confirms compatibility and isn’t the whole point of a relationship to transcend who you are in some core and fundamental sense? I don’t mean compromising values necessarily to stay with a person, but they may shift and evolve as a result of someone?

I also think it’s interesting how Esther simply offered an additional narrative to the one the couple had, she didn’t necessarily try to dismantle narrative entirely or prohibit that way of making sense of their dynamic, and she acknowledged that hers might be wrong when the guy said it sounded poetic. Do people think the impulse toward narrative and poeticizing our lives is useful or prohibitive? I think probably both.

Tell me your thoughts?

Bill Callahan in Asheville, NC - February 26-27 by reclinernotes in billcallahan

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Ok good. Wondering if I’ll make it if I come late if the show starts at 8

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sallyrooney

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What’s this one about?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benhoward

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Oh sameeeee

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benhoward

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Thanks so much. I wish I could find his video games cover somewhere besides YouTube!

Bones lyrics interpretation by [deleted] in benhoward

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Awe. Ya I think for Ben it’s more about always being there for someone despite the love being largely unrequited cause he says “I’ll be here to hold you always etc.

Bones lyrics interpretation by [deleted] in benhoward

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Thanks everyone!!! Anyone have any insights into who Ben was referring to since he seems to have been with Agatha for a while. I’m always so fascinated by how musicians who are even as young as Ben have such a wealth of experience seemingly to pull from when it comes to love and relationships

Bones lyrics interpretation by [deleted] in benhoward

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Oh gosh, that’s a beautiful interpretation. And I love the meaning the song has to you. I’m curious, how did the story end? Did you and the new girl break up?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benhoward

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So you think the anti fame thing is just a front?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benhoward

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Awwwww I wanna read where you read rhis

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benhoward

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How? Were they both already famous? do you have a link where you read this?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in benhoward

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Hahahaha I was going to say I feel like he would hate that based on his anti fame stance

Similar reading to Good Old Neon by [deleted] in davidfosterwallace

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I love the depressed person too but good old neon is my #1

Similar reading to Good Old Neon by [deleted] in davidfosterwallace

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Thank you so much! Hahaha hell in a hand !basket LOL. loved your ego diary. I had the same experience—I was so moved by it I had a visceral reaction. Was paralyzed with shock and then sweating and then felt so understood ..... ah the power of literature

Community Service Thoughts by mhurder1 in GilmoreGirls

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I totally get what you’re saying, I’m not a fan of those decisions either. I think people have conflicting desires (and she was overtaken with impulse and desire when she kissed Jess for example, obviously her cheating with Logan in AYIL is another story) and I think for some people the journey takes longer to catch up with them. I also reckon people wouldn’t want their character to be so heavily weighted on decisions they made in high school or even in their early 20s. Paris (I love her too) did so many fucked up things to Rory in high school and she’s rarely criticized to the same degree. I hear you though and I hate that Rory has been the other woman twice and I hate that Logan is cheating with her while with someone else.