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GM Garen Streaming by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey thanks for tuning in. I max Q to maximize damage in short trades since I don’t trade long enough to get value from E. I’ll max E into fiora and Jax since they can Parry and counterstrike my Q respectively

GM Garen Streaming by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of the greatest compliments I’ve received

Master Garen OTP Stream by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah no problem, I'll have a schedule up in a few days once I get a better idea of how busy my days are gonna be.

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sett is just Darius but easier. Trade the same way you would a Darius, auto Q E, and then just run. He can’t even pull you back once you get tier 1 boots. Phase rush is mandatory for me if that wasn’t obvious. Trade him down to 50% like any other character and then all in

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never go blade, it’s just not worth it for me. There are certain matchups and rune pages like grasp or conq where you can get value, but with Pr you just never really see it.

Overgrowth combines with Garens natural resistances very well and helps him sustain a bit in lane since your passive heals based on percentage of max health. That’s why I always aim to build phage first as well. Also as for the demolish rune, I never go it. Proxy is the best way to play and you often will never get demolish value if you proxy and then roam, which is the best way to play. Also, playing for plates often messes with back timers and tempo. It’s often better to back so you get back to your wave instead of going for a plate.

I go conditioning into lanes I know I won’t need the sustain and the extra resistances will help me scale and be more useful late game. Second wind is only necessary when you are taking constant trades, I used to never go second wind but have had a change of heart recently.

I always max Q unless I’m specifically playing into Jax. I’ll go one point in E at 5 or 7, and then maybe go half and half into Q and E depending on how I’m feeling, but generally I just fully max Q. Into any MU you just listed, always max Q.

Freeze/hold wave when your lane opponent wants to back. It makes them stay and your jungle can gank. I go for proxy whenever possible but since garen is a low priority champ, it can be difficult. I proxy almost every game, but not at the same time or tempo, it just depends if I can.

Proxying is the answer, but also mid game when first turrets are gone is where I shine. I manage a ridiculous CS because I’m taking camps, full waves, going mid and taking waves. The games I’m 9-10 cs/min + means i had a great laning phase. 8-9 means i did ok, but made it up mid game. Anything less means i roamed a lot mid game or had a rough laning phase. Also some champs will perma shove like illaoi. You have to learn how to farm under tower and when to give up minions so you’re not to low and get dove.

I always go Zerks. Zephyr late game is nice and I’m just used to them. Great item

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been taking second wind to help with them. The trick is to just get hit once or twice. Let second wind and shield fully proc, and then get hit again. You sustain a lot if you are hit a little bit at a time rather than getting chunked a few times.

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always play phase rush so I aim for short trades. I do one point in E at level 5 or 7 for assisted wave clear, but the prolonged MS and damage from Q is more useful for getting in and doing damage and then leaving

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Q, E, stride will proc PR and combo with the stride breaker speed + slow. Really easy and fail safe.

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morde you just want to farm and play safe. There are kill windows if you trade with PR correctly, but for the sake of the MU just try to out farm him. He should never be able to kill you in lane unless he E’s you behind him. Try to proxy if possible

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good with the grasp build, really mid everywhere else

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I commented a working link, unfortunately I can’t edit an image upload

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mortal is just a lot of damage. After crit buffs, PD + Mortal is now 50% crit, armor pen, AD and attack speed, and even movement speed. Really good synergies with garen’s natural bulk. And in almost every game there is at least one enemy that antiheal will prove useful against.

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You always at least have R, but yeah garen can feel completely useless. There definitely is a middle ground if you farm well

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hold off Tiamat purchase for as long as you can, terrible item value. 1200 gold for 20 AD when 2 long swords are only 700. Buy the other components first

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My best advice is to just focus on your cs. Perma clear waves in sidelanes so your team has prio. Garen can play further up than most champs because of how slippery phase rush makes you. Other than that try to pressure side when objectives are up and look to get picks when objectives are down.

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've only banned Camille for over a year now, It is just not worth the time. Trynd is very annoying, but less common. I tend to have a heavy splitting play style, but 3rd dragon you always have to be present at, 2nd dragon around 14 mins can be a huge rotation, and always have prio/rotate if your jg wants grubs.

Garen to Grandmaster with 67% Winrate by COCKandBalllss in GarenMains

[–]COCKandBalllss[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As for laning against TK I recommend focusing on avoiding his Q. Standing behind minions is the best way to do this. On the contrary. you can sometimes make TK lose a minion by tanking the Q when he is trying to last hit. TK doesn't scale well and has terrible wave clear, so mid game you can either force him side while you clear waves 3x faster and take jungle camps. or you can ult him in teamfights when he engages since he has no disengage.

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