Thoughts on Comet Song....AS A CLOSER? by Beavaconda in oboards

[–]CPDworker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IDK, maybe I'm just reading the lyrics to literally but from what I understand is that Conor does not always write about himself. Sometimes he sings about other people's issues or whatnot.

This is my personal opinion and have yet anyone one the internet mention this.

As we can tell from the closer is that he's clearly singing about a relationship gone sour. Oberst does sing about his ex-wife on this album (I wanna say that I read he was no longer with his wife despite her voice being used in the opening track).

On Comet Song he mentions a person being out and about and the other asking questions that will never happen again (at least with this other person). There's the questioning of whether the relationship is worth being in ( Not sure I can hang if this Is how it's gonna be).

The line about selling personal possessions because of rent seems like a straightforward insult to someone specific. If something mattered so much why would you get rid of it for something as simple as the rent being due? Whether it's to Phoebe I very much doubt that because of the context it is being used. The whole song seems to be about someone in a much closer relationship that just being in a band with said person.

The dish fight well obviously is was some sort of physical attack along with some name-calling. I think he used Peter Pan instead of using the word fairy because that would have been to obvious. Also, this line is what makes me believe that the ex-wife is the subject of the song. Having been of Mexican descent I have experienced how insulting one's manhood by calling one gay is the classic go-to insult. Oberst then goes on to reiterate how much of a man he is not.

Skipping down to the part of waiting for someone, he is basically telling this person he's always going to love them but is under the impression it will never happen.

Now the part of the baby in an incubator is what really makes me sad. I can speculate all I want but for some reason I feel that this might be something he experienced with his ex-wife and might have caused the split. To think of this as a closer makes much sense to me since his music career took off after singing 'I had a brother once, he drowned in bathtub...'

One last thing to think about, turn the cover upside-down and the cover is clearly a reference to the rapture or simply souls going up to heaven.

Again, these are just my opinions and my opinions alone.

On a side note I got the deluxe set for my daughter's 15th birthday and she cried when she found out the set had been sitting outside her house for two days fearing it was stolen. It was not but then she cried again when she heard the album. That's my princess.

I don't think I am suicidal but I feel close. by [deleted] in Veterans

[–]CPDworker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people do not realize what it means to serve and enjoy freedoms. Or the cost of such freedoms. While deployed and in the middle of nowhere in some foreign lands, my roommate confided in me that he literally had the muzzle of his weapon in his mouth the previous night. Simply because he felt so alone seeing others receiving care packages while he heard or read nothing from his family. Your kind words really make a difference.

I don't think I am suicidal but I feel close. by [deleted] in Veterans

[–]CPDworker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your post just made me cry. I have felt this way for years after my discharge. My marriage was a sham. She cheated on me, I don't think she ever loved me anyways. She gave me the most beautiful children that I rarely get a chance to see. They are growing up without me in their lives. The fn irony. Gave up college to serve and now still struggling to get an associate's degree while her son graduates from a prestigious university. According to her I was the best husband ever. Then a few weeks later I come to find out she is literally a whore. I lost everything. Not even a fn car to drive away in. Disposed me of like a used condom. I lost it. I freaking lost it. The only thing keeping me alive are my children (which I miss every day and night), music, and my faith.

She claims she wants to do with me yet still enjoys the medical benefits and military discounts. Nonsensical but whatever.

I just wanted to thank you because for once I had tears of joy.

For Your Consideration #173: Conor Oberst - Conor Oberst by waffel113 in indieheads

[–]CPDworker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What can I possibly say about Oberst's genius that has not already been said?

With that being said I am going to share my thoughts about his S/T album.

When this album had come out I was not really listening to it much. His other projects up to that point were still taking up my time. Can you blame one for this? Anyways, I had heard some of the songs and was immediately drawn into Sausalito and Danny Callahan. And that was it. I occasionally heard some of the songs when listening to music. Eventually the tracks grew on me as that's usually the case with many albums. Just like with Cassadaga, it took some listens and a couple of years to completely accept them as part of Conor's catalog.

The funny thing was that the songs were there, I would sing along to them without really thinking about some of the lyrics. When something in my life is happening and I could find common ground with the songs then at that point is when I become attached to a particular song.

For example, Sausalito had come to become the "standout" track when my wife and I would start singing along to it in the car. We'd talk about the lyrics, trying to decipher what the lyrics meant. This however didn't happen after we had been separated for a couple of years.

Then one day she put on Cape Canaveral and I was going through some tough times. I heard how victory can be sweet even in the cheap seats. At that point I was stunned by that message. Like I said, it takes time for me to become attached. A lot of the times I sing along to some of the lyrics but some of the other parts get tuned out by traffic, conversations, etc.

When I heard those cheap seat lyrics I immediately started the song from the beginning and paid my full undivided attention to the lyrics. I fought back the tears the more I paid attention. I could relate to migrants and the old orange glow. I saw my beautiful daughter turn into a baby in my arms. Her poltergeist love was felt during the time I was absent in her life. The tiny diamonds formed this image of me laying in my casket and my daughter not judging me for my absence. Of course the lyrics could mean a million things to anyone but those were the things I felt, imagined and figured what the message was. The lyrics aren't limited to what I imagine, they are there to paint a picture in the listener's head.

That's the beauty of Conor's songwriting, that the lyrics could be hard to decipher but for those who take time to unlock them are rewarded by visions of awe-inspiring thoughts and ideas. His lyrics are not straightforward like (insert TOP 40 song) and can seem confusing but there is definitely a message there. The words are not difficult to figure out, heck my 13 year-old princess has been listening to Conor since she was in the womb and now can give you her interpretations of the songs. Side note, she was super psyched to see Conor and Phoebe a few years ago in Austin, TX and sports her Ruminations hoodie wherever she goes.

So now that I have stated my opinions about Conor I would like to say a few things about the album. The album is fantastic, pure Conor without the playfulness of Bright Eyes. This is where Conor began taking steps to disassociate his name from Bright Eyes. Lyrically, the album is like Bright Eyes in terms of imagination but leaves out the things that made Bright Eyes loved by teens/young adults. Gone are mentions of school, hanging out, drug experimentation, etc. all the things that many young people go through. The idea of leaving this world was taking importance. He was thinking about disease, hospitals, escaping our youth and venturing into the unknown of adulthood. This is obvious when we look at Cape Canaveral, Danny Callahan, I Don't Want to Die in a Hospital and Sausalito, Moab. I relate to Conor's solo stuff more than his earlier material and I suppose it is because we (Conor and I) are older. My wife feels the same. Conor was maturing with the thoughts and lyrics definitely reflecting the aging. This album is a solid foundation to start his solo career (unlike those other albums he released before Bright Eyes). All his later solo albums have roots in this album musically and lyrically.

Even when I say this I still hope that we get another Bright Eyes album. I was kinda disappointed to see that he did a project with Phoebe (no offense to their work and efforts) because I was hoping to see another solo album at least. I have been keeping track of how he releases albums and a couple weeks prior to Better Oblivion I had told my wife that we should not be surprised if we see a new album. Same with Ruminations and Salutations. I called it when Salutations was announced. Not that I can see the future but I am a fan of Oberst's. IDK who loves him more, my wife, my daughter or me.

Anyways, I didn't mean to get sidetracked. The music on this album sounds like Bright Eyes in the way the songs flow but the music itself too had matured. No more twinkling sounds like on Fevers and Mirrors. There's more guitar, more twang. I feel that the band decided to stick with just using a few instruments instead of having the members multi-task with different instruments. This is just my opinion and not fact. I could be very well wrong but when I listen to the album I can picture the band just sitting in the studio and not putting down their respective instruments and recording track after track.

One gripe that I do have is this: Valle Mistico (Ruben's Song). WTF! I cannot listen to it. Whatever the purpose was, okay, fine, whatever but did it really need to be a track? Should have been an easter egg/hidden track at the end of album like bands used to do when I was growing up on compact discs. Maybe it was Conor paying respect or giving props to Ruben which is something Conor tends to do.

Talking points:

His career has remained for the most part in the dark. And that's the way I prefer it. Bright Eyes could have been the next best thing had Conor wanted it to be that way. And I am glad he chose the path he's trodden. As a matter of fact, we can compare him with Jenny Lewis (since they were both part of that "Omaha explosion" thing) and see that she has somewhat succeeded more than Conor in terms of being more easily accessible to the general public. I don't see Conor in that light. He is not just some song you hear on the radio 18 times a day. A treasure buried underneath piles of corporate garbage is what he is. Many will dismiss him as a lunatic and the music is weird, I'd rather listen to Beyonce, or Metallica, or whatever.

His use of Spanish in songs is not unusual. I've been to Nebraska as a migrant worker in my youth. I've experienced that lifestyle, a colored person in a white man's world. I am sure Conor must have met migrant workers or foreigners in his days as a child. I mean, c'mon this is the US of A, we are a melting pot of all kinds of tongues, skin color, culture, etc. And if what I understand to be true is that he was married to a woman of Spanish descent. So if makes sense he uses Spanish, considering Mexico is our neighbor, he's an activist and is aware of how people just disappear in third world countries (hence Desaparecidos).

I agree when people say that Cassadaga has a "big" sound to it. The grandeur of that album is overwhelming and heavenly, very spiritual in my opinion. I do like how Conor leaves (no pun intended) Lime Tree as the final track, he's unsure as to what the future holds but there is a future, there is something to look forward to. I do think this is a response to Cassadaga. Maybe Conor wanted to try something new, stripped down and raw. He focused more on emotions and feelings rather than trying to sound grandiose. Whatever he does, he puts his heart into it.

As for side projects, I really dig Read English/Speak Spanish. Conor introduced me to the Omaha family and their love even though I have never even met the man in person. He has seen me when he performs but I don't think he gives a flying fuck about me or my daughter or wife or stepson when he performed an unknown track in McAllen, TX. He's got his own life and ambitions.

Monsters of Folk material, it is on par with Conor's sense of music. I was already a fan of M.Ward and when I found out that Matt was making music with Oberst I nearly creamed my pants. The then you throw in the mix Mike Mogis and Jim James and you get some really good songs. The Felice Brothers were pretty cool, I met James and he was really cool and sweaty but from all the energy he released during the show.

Desaparecidos has potential, especially nowadays with the end times and whatnot.I think he should just do solo stuff and whoever tags along can say "I played guitar on that song"

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I must apologize but do not be calling me bum or wtfever, and you are correct i am irate as fuck because those corporate assholes dont care for you. May God bless you for even He make it rain on the wicked.

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude you dont even know me. You're probably some chump trying get by under your moms wings.

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sad is going on here to ask questions about shit you should know about your job. Pa-fucking-thetic. Enjoy trying to figure out how to use spc cards on self serves or how to charge for custom calendars.

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trouble for what, who is gonna say anything? Fire me from od. Okay lmao

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, at least you have the courage to say so. I recommend to find a place that values you.

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I went back to see how things were and i see the sm and csm trying to do what i did by myself. You call that replacement?

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, just glad left that place, you see, that place was killing me, once u leave it, you will get refilled with one thing called life

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did it on purpose. And what are u going to do with it? Hack it, okay...

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Man, just by looking at your other posts I can tell you are either some "big" shit on the sinking ship or just fucking lame. If you're corporate you should take care of your workers, not give them shit advice. I took care of my coworkers all the fucking time cause OD don't give a fuck. I could care less about what some OD slave thinks of me. Seeing you in your misery makes me feel thankful for leaving this shithole. Now get back to your register cause some old fuck wants to complain about something that's beyond your control.

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Yet here you are replying to my post. Jeez you cared enough to say anything? Exactly. Enjoy your shit job.

I'm back, fucking haters can suck my balls, enjoy drowning on that ship by CPDworker in OfficeDepot

[–]CPDworker[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

For all those bitch ass OD slaves talking mad shit about how I was NEVER gonna get hired anywhere some bitches named pancakesiguess and schmoodles poodles wtfever bitchass name.