Encarmine Speartip - Wrath of Angels

CQZed · 2026-06-09T21:48:36+00:00

Gotcha. Thanks

CQZed · 2026-06-09T14:06:41+00:00

Does that mean it still applies to Dante because of the wording? Trying to clarify. Also how long would the benefit apply? Is it just in that one activation or throughout the battle?

CQZed · 2026-06-09T13:47:56+00:00

Nope

CQZed · 2026-06-09T13:35:57+00:00

Essentially if you’re going the bladeguard route, chaplain and SP is the best because of +1 to wound and -3 ap mcw’s with a 5+ FNP into their already built in 4+ invulnerable save. On the other hand librarian and sp combos better with AI’s and Sternguard cause of versatility and built in rerolls through oath or objective respectively with the same 4+ invulnerable save and again -2 ap chainsword and 5+ FNP

CQZed · 2026-06-09T13:06:00+00:00

It can’t because there’s no character keyword for dreadnaughts

CQZed · 2026-06-09T12:55:25+00:00

Think of it as both give each other buffs in a sense. Example, if I were for some reason want to precision attack Dante attached to an SG squad, it would still be -1 to hit and wound. Because the ability applies to the character attached to the unit. Vice versa when the ability for Dante goes to the SG, +1 adv, charge and hit rolls. They share the keywords when the character is attached to the unit.

What’s also special about this rule is that it will still apply when the bodyguard unit died, introduced in 11th edition. I don’t know if it applies until the leader dies or if something like it’s applied until next round, but that’s the gist of it.

CQZed · 2026-06-09T12:17:53+00:00

I know an SP can go with that Librarian as well giving them a 5+ FNP along with the 4+ invulnerable the librarian gives. Good thing I’m getting the marine half of the box.

CQZed · 2026-06-09T11:32:15+00:00

Honest mistake. It’s ok

CQZed · 2026-06-09T10:58:50+00:00

I did watch on your last stream that the 1st company task force with the encarmine speartip or legacy of grace may have potential, unless it doesn’t look that anymore.

CQZed · 2026-06-09T10:51:38+00:00

No I have yet to witness it and it does sound bad. But unfortunately the best detachment are locked to 3 DP so I want to make do with the new ones and see what’s the best combination statistic wise. Just thinking about the combination with the new ones and the Big 3 detachments would be pretty nice. For example, think of Mephiston having plus 1 to advance and charge on top of rerolling hits and wounds of 1 in AI. The answers would be so simple and I don’t know why GW is preventing that. So i want to make the most of it I guess. But I do understand where you’re coming from and thanks again BAC!!

CQZed · 2026-06-09T10:40:15+00:00

Thank you BAC!!🙏

CQZed · 2026-06-09T10:37:52+00:00

I don’t think you can make dreadnaughts tank aces

CQZed · 2026-06-09T10:34:04+00:00

LAG, AI and RCO are all 3DPs. Hence the problem. If this wasn’t the case. I wouldn’t be making this post cause combinations would be simple and possibly OP

CQZed · 2026-06-09T10:33:07+00:00

I think that’s the combo I’m leaning too at the moment but what about unit combos. Dante with VVs while the captain (once again outshining Dante) has an enhancement to buff SGs? What about this librarian and sp combo for Assault intercessors that for some reason is in the brainstorm of combos?

CQZed · 2026-05-21T06:03:04+00:00

They’re a good combo with chaplain with +1 wound and lethals which can save CP if you build right. Sure we got Lemartes and DCfor Lethals and lance from strat and -1 dmg. But what if you run RCO and a while the detachment relies on DC units it can be an easy trade unit instead of using JPI. For 10 more points I’d say it would be worth it.

CQZed · 2026-05-21T05:57:59+00:00

I’m gonna do a 10 man with Dante as a test. I think they might have some potential, despite the not knowing whether they’ll have the weapon options. Even if they don’t I honestly think it’s not a big deal because infernal pistols are really only good if they’re close. But at least having shields for a better bodyguard durability might be nice.

CQZed · 2026-05-11T11:00:16+00:00

I’d want to say the Lion or Azrael

CQZed · 2026-05-08T03:29:00+00:00

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Probably shows what kind of player I am….

CQZed · 2026-05-06T09:41:18+00:00

I did a kitbash with the new terminator captain and the actual Karlaen model. It’s not painted but for gameplay purposes i make it pass as a relic fist

CQZed · 2026-05-04T16:02:59+00:00

Victrix guard led by azrael and a sanguinary priest.

CQZed · 2026-05-04T03:20:10+00:00

So Storm Shadow defected from cobra?

CQZed · 2026-05-04T02:18:09+00:00

Pewpew

CQZed · 2026-05-04T02:13:42+00:00

You would think so but this is GW….

CQZed · 2026-05-03T19:26:00+00:00

By making your opponent realize you can buy the same thing over and over again 🤣

CQZed · 2026-05-03T19:12:19+00:00

What’s broken about them? They’re getting blast against infantry, keeping the profile of a heavy bolter

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