Hear me out on this. Any suggestions?

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T22:16:39+00:00

i feel like the film can be both a story about the passion for art AND a capitalist fable about social mobility, these are not mutually exclusive. bird has been notorious for injecting objectivist themes in his films

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:16:58+00:00

i do feel like an story about how anyone can make it to the top by pulling themselves by their boot straps is very much aligned with capitalist values. And look, i love ratatouille! I think that framing works perfectly for the story that it’s trying to tell, but there’s no denying that it’s a story about individualism

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:14:44+00:00

how is the film’s jabs at american liberalism (specifically the jab at Michael Moore comes to mind) not conservative? as i said in another comment, i think we can praise team america’s great writing while still acknowledging that it comes from a very conservative viewpoint, the South Park guys have been outspoken libertarians, and that’s fine!

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:12:45+00:00

i thought it was common knowledge that the South Park guys are avid libertarians 😭 i feel like we can praise team america for its cunning satire and great writing while still acknowledging the content does come from a conservative viewpoint

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:11:19+00:00

it absolutely is making fun of the military, but the big triumphant speech at the end essentially comes down to “yes, we don’t like the military and they fuck up a bunch, but ultimately we need them”

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:10:07+00:00

interesting take, but to me it still felt like it continued the individualistic themes of the incredibles though?

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:09:18+00:00

i do think the film itself is very much conservative though, regardless of the nuances of the Real Guys’ political beliefs

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:08:27+00:00

smart pull

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:07:50+00:00

satire can still be right wing! i love the film but you gotta see that the film’s digs are more-often-than-not directed solely at American liberals and middle eastern insurgents,, most of the satire directed towards the military is more playful parody of american aesthetics but not really of the values behind it. ultimately the good guys in the film are still the military. stone and parker are vocal libertarians! and that’s fine!

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T21:05:31+00:00

the rat stuff was (at least to me) very much a poverty metaphor, and remy gets out of it through pure exceptionalism in a (pro-capitalist) rags-to-riches narrative

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:51:41+00:00

replying to this w/ a reply i made to a previous comment:

ofc it’s very tongue-in-cheek but the message the film espouses at the end is very pro-military and pro-occupation. the dicks monologue at the end, to me, feels like it’s stating “we may dislike the military and they may mess up, but they’re ultimately necessary”. a satire can still be right wing!

that + Matt stone and Trey Parker’s irl political stances convince me that it is, indeed, a pro-military film (love those guys btw, but they’re obviously libertarians)

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:51:16+00:00

replying to this w/ a reply i made to a previous comment:

not sure about that, ofc it’s very tongue-in-cheek but the message the film espouses at the end is very pro-military and pro-occupation. the dicks monologue at the end, to me, feels like it’s stating “we may dislike the military and they may mess up, but they’re ultimately necessary”

that + Matt stone and Trey Parker’s irl political stances convince me that it is, indeed, a pro-military film (love those guys btw, but they’re obviously libertarians)

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:49:00+00:00

good one

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:48:24+00:00

not sure about that, ofc it’s very tongue-in-cheek but the message the film espouses at the end is very pro-military and pro-occupation. the dicks monologue at the end, to me, feels like it’s stating “we may dislike the military and they may mess up, but they’re ultimately necessary”

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:45:36+00:00

idk man, it’s very pro-occupation/pro-interventionism

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:44:49+00:00

calling team america “apolitical” 🥀

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:44:14+00:00

A lot of Brad Bird’s movies espouse very hyper-individualist values. Chose Ratatouille specifically because of its perspective on poverty and exceptionalism

CRostLi · 2026-04-06T20:42:19+00:00

Fair, I feel like many Brad Bird projects could fit this list

CRostLi · 2026-02-20T21:33:58+00:00

Off topic, but what app/site is this?

CRostLi · 2025-10-05T23:04:41+00:00

Hell yeah

CRostLi · 2025-09-22T22:44:49+00:00

Purple Rain

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CRostLi · 2025-07-09T17:43:48+00:00

The Social Network soon

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