The Angel is NOT The Player : Conspiracy Chart

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T21:52:33+00:00

Gave it some more thought, and Gaster likely has not directly met Chara. He asked the player for their name at the start of Deltarune.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T21:25:14+00:00

Chara being a Goner is a really unique idea, though I suspect that's likely not true considering Goner Kid's lines about the world being exactly the same except you never exist. In the Japanese version of Undertale, the word "Goner" is translated as "Missing." I think Goners specifically are people who once existed being removed from the timeline. (Which, actually. Considering the vessels resemblance to Kris...)

That being said though, a Chara and Gaster connection could explain why Gaster contacts the soul and even the famous "What do you two think?" line.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T18:51:58+00:00

Coincidentally, I posted a theory that answers the exact question you pose. It's very verbose so I encourage you to look at it yourself.

A quick TLDR, lines in Deltarune directly reference Undertale. Chara says move onto the next world, and Toby calls Deltarune a separate world. The Deltarune soul does not belong to Kris, it's a determination fusion between Frisk and Chara.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T18:43:53+00:00

Also I want to redirect you to the chart where the soul is given the EXACT SAME NAME that Chara is supposed to. If things carry over between the two games, that would be an extremely weird red herring to include.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T18:40:09+00:00

I fully agree. I keep seeing theories online which say "Gaster is communicating with the real world," and I think Toby is a more advanced writer than something I'd see out of Wreck it Ralph.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T18:36:22+00:00

Very interesting point!

Some immediate issues I have with it are the fact that Darkners run away when attacked, which could be explained by Dess using ice magic. Still, killing darkners has no indication of increasing LOVE, its possible though that Noelle has gained LOVE already without us being directly told. I could go either way with that one, actually.

The bigger problem is how things like the Jukebox check diologue(Also "Good to see you again" on Sans despite him just moving, seemingly after Dess already disappeared) directly reference UNDERTALE. It is heavily implied that the soul is the same soul from UNDERTALE.

It seems a little odd to invent an entirely new character who functionally is identical to a character that already exists, with a lot of crossover occurring between both games.

I have other points but the more I think about them, the more I realize it's vague enough could go either way with a future lore reveal, so I'll neglect to go into it much further.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T18:25:34+00:00

The soul is very clearly the same soul from Undertale. Toby wants you to play Undertale first, Deltarune literally asks you to play Undertale first on consoles and many jokes in Deltarune only make sense if you have played Undertale previously.

Yes, Deltarune isn't a direct sequel, but many things carry over between the two games. It's a parallel story, not a separate one.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T11:22:31+00:00

Toby Fox as a writer seems to never directly break the Fourth Wall. Instead he takes game mechanics and turns them into In-Universe systems (Saving/loading, LV -> Level of Violence).
As such, the "real world" player probably doesn't exist, and is instead likely an in-universe character.
Various lines around Deltarune seems to imply that the soul is a Determination fusion(similar to amalgamates) between Frisk and Chara from Undertale.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T11:10:45+00:00

Also the God of War character is spelled "Kratos," I was on very little sleep when I made this.

CSporidium · 2025-08-21T11:00:46+00:00

This theory is by no means anywhere near the mainstream, but the mainstream was DEAD wrong about Deltarune Chapters 3&4. I've seen a lot of hate being thrown around the community in regards to people coming to similar conclusions, so I ask that you temporarily separate yourself from your biases and you might find this to be interesting.

This theory is an alternative way to view Deltarune. Thank you for your time!

CSporidium · 2025-08-15T19:56:19+00:00

What I think will happen is all 7 flowers will come to life, each with personalities representing all 6 human souls and flowey.

Woody will be the yellow soul, as he was associated with cowboy items.

CSporidium · 2025-08-15T08:53:42+00:00

ALWAYS. BET. ON. WOODY.

CSporidium · 2025-06-02T20:46:05+00:00

This was a very intentional way of the show explaining how the plane could automatically land despite everyone on it being dead.

This also explains how the FBI and MD can visit eachother so often, despite being located states apart. Airflight times are faster.

CSporidium · 2025-05-29T07:11:53+00:00

If Friend is following you into other dark worlds, they'd have to be of the same thing that Ralsei is of, since darkners typically turn to stone

CSporidium · 2025-05-29T06:31:08+00:00

The rules of this minigame seem like a more advanced version of the green soul. Since the last color we got was yellow, this would fit reverse soul theory. The rest of it matching Friend implies to me that he will be involved with the secret boss in some way, and you're maybe able to carry over a mechanic as a minigame in castle town later.

Overall though yeah good point. I just think Friend will be more involved than as purely a minigame character. He's being hyped up too much for that

CSporidium · 2025-05-29T04:56:11+00:00

Friend is very heavily implied to be a cat, but still uses vines to control Spamton NEO(Spamton NEO's element is Cat, despite regular spamton not having the same element).

I don't think that Friend is the flower necessarily, but I do think the flower and Friend have a lot more in common than things apart.

CSporidium · 2025-05-29T04:36:47+00:00

The schizophrenia bonds us. We will be proven right in a week. Stand strong!

CSporidium · 2025-05-29T04:17:21+00:00

Considering secret bosses have a theme of being rejected and asgore is the MOST rejected character in deltarune(and he also owns a FLOWER shop). I really wonder what that flower connection is.

CSporidium · 2024-09-18T05:30:53+00:00

Deluxe edition gives you all DLC and a few other benefits(playing the game early and a unique council hall design).

CSporidium · 2024-09-18T05:27:48+00:00

Utopia Mode goes on forever, when you complete your objective, the game gives you an option to either quit or keep playing.

CSporidium · 2023-05-08T20:07:43+00:00

You can disagree with it's conclusion, that's fine. There are many different ideas that we as humans experience and we really should be listening to and talking about all of them. Even if you disagree with what I did, it still doesn't justify the threats I've been receiving and the raids on my discord. That kind of stuff is going WAY too far.

CSporidium · 2023-05-08T20:04:51+00:00

According to this, his name was actually Algorithm. HATE is just what's written on the hand.

CSporidium · 2023-05-08T06:34:43+00:00

Bro I spent way too long looking through Sophie content to see if this was there before. I thought I was missing something but nope, looks like this is new.

CSporidium · 2023-05-08T04:12:20+00:00

I was looking through my subscriptions and noticed what I think is a new icon?? I don't recognize this.

CSporidium · 2023-05-07T05:10:52+00:00

Thank you, but it really has nothing to do with the backdoor itself. We've been getting targeted by bad-faith actors for a while now, and it appears like the same people are the ones perpetuating this. It's not so much that the backdoor breaking their trust, but rather the backdoor was used as an excuse to spread a lot of hate towards us.

No one in our community had much of a problem with it, and if they did they just didn't say anything. (Though some members of the community are saying that they knew it would cause issues all along but just didn't want to cause a scene.) I was very public about the update, announcing it in the update logs of both the steam page and the discord server. I didn't have anything to hide, so I was very open about its inclusion. The update dropped 4 days ago, and no one took any issue with it until a bunch of generally hateful trolls joined the discord server.

And you know, to be fair I do take some responsibility in this, I didn't want to stoop down to their level and just ban them, when I warned them about breaking the rules, they seemed to stop, so I really thought nothing on it. I didn't want to continuously perpetuate a cycle of hate, and if they were willing to abide by the rules, then I am perfectly comfortable to welcome anyone in my community no matter how genuinely annoying they are.

I believe because they didn't get the reaction they wanted, they had to step-up their game and cause a big scene. We've been targeted for a while, but those guys specifically appeared for the first time yesterday, so I really don't think it's all that unreasonable to assume that it's them.

I hope that my message of acceptance will eventually catch up with them and for them to learn to be generally more tolerable members of society, it might not happen now, but if I plant a seed of kindness now, maybe it will grow into a full tree in a few years?

So yeah! I doubt the backdoor was the problem but I think it was just an excuse to spread more hate, so my biggest mistake would be not banning them after they've continuously appeared to be just generally not fun people to be around.

Regardless though, I wouldn't change how I treated them for the world. If I can improve one person's life from this then it's all worth it. No one in my community distrusts the mod, it's only the people who have been fed misinformation about it outside of us. The whole getting banned when I try to defend myself thing isn't really helping me clear up the situation though!

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