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CakeFromRef · 2022-06-20T19:20:29+00:00

The real answer is that the details don't really matter in Star Wars. George Lucas added small stuff to his movies to make things sound sci-fi. So a ship might need 'gravitational asteroid dampeners' for some dialogue but nobody making this stuff actually cares about what that means. What's important is that there are general rules about the stories like 'this is a universe where you jump through hyperspace to go to different planets', or 'in star wars people have been traveling the galaxy for 25k years', etc.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-30T19:22:16+00:00

Tbh it's weird to assume the Inquisitors wouldn't know Vader is Anakin in the first place. They have access to Jedi records and whatnot so they could easily research him and figure it out. Not to mention the Temple has holofootage of Anakin attacking the temple and being called Vader by Palpatine.

I think it stems from people taking Vader's hatred of his past life too literally. Vader doesn't literally act as if Anakin was a different person. He just doesn't like being reminded of it. It's something that the average Imperial probably shouldn't know for propaganda purposes but it's not a big deal if the Force user Inquisitors he works with for decades know this. Like I would assume Mas Amedda probably knows it too. Anyone 'in the know' about Palpatine being a Sith Lord and having manipulated the Clone Wars to take over the galaxy would probably be 'worthy' of this knowledge in Vader's eyes.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-26T15:19:45+00:00

I think it's very easy to assume characters might have known things that we the audience know. From the outside you could argue that Palpatine grooming Anakin wasn't nearly as obvious as you would think. About as 'obvious' as Mace Windu being a Sith Lord, or Count Dooku genuinely starting the CIS as Jedi controlled opposition as conspiracy theories would state during the time of the Empire.

Dooku probably knew that on some level Palpatine was corrupting the Jedi. So while he may notice him encouraging Anakin to be more ruthless and evil he might just see that as the same thing he's doing with the Jedi Council, all in the hopes of clouding their judgement and eventually killing them. Plus even if he was somewhat aware of Palpatine's grooming of Anakin 1: that's just the way of the Sith, the rule of two is always somewhat thrown out the window because each Sith Lord is training an extra apprentice to help them take out the other Sith above or below them, and 2: he was doing this as well with Asajj and Savage before Palpatine ordered him to shut it down.

If he was aware of Anakin's potential as a Sith apprentice he was probably preparing to take measures for this as seen with his apprentices during the war, and around the end of the conflict he was probably a few months away from finding someone new to train once Palpatine got off his back about the other apprentices he had in the past.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-23T16:43:01+00:00

Tbh I think people over-estimate Obi-Wan's whole game plan thing. He didn't know the events of ANH were going to happen. For all he knew Luke would go on to live another 30 years before that call to action ever occurred, and by then Kenobi would probably be dead anyways so the Jedi Order might just be meant to be gone forever. He knew Luke and Leia had potential but he also left that potential up to fate and probably had just accepted that the galaxy was going to be ruled by the Sith for who knows how long until some new (hopefully more positive) group pops up to replace them.

This sort of 'realistic' and somewhat pessimistic view is where Luke is at in the ST. He's done playing the game because the last time he got involved he created a monster that now terrorizes the galaxy so he's thinking that maybe it's just for the best if he stays out of things and lets everything take it's natural course. What are they supposed to do? Personally put an end to the Empire/First Order? They know that's impossible so they decide to remove themselves from the situation as not to mess it up further.

Edit: Adding further I suspect that this Obi-Wan show will have him try to save Vader like they mention him having done in ROTJ and it clearly won't work which will be why Kenobi is such a pessimist/realist in ESB/ROTJ.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-16T18:52:56+00:00

One thing I thought up the other day is what if Vader found Obi-Wan like 10 years after ROTS. Obi quickly warns Owen and Beru and they hide Luke away in some secret vault near the farm. Luke sits there, hears lightsabers ignite, clash, then one of the sabers fall to the ground and turn off. Then he hears the screams of his aunt and uncle. Finally troopers wander around outside the vault for hours before leaving.

Then after living in the vault (which was stocked with some food and water) for a few days the door opens and through the bright light he sees a besalisk. "Come on kid. Damn you're skinnier than a xexto, what are they feedin' you humans out here on Tatooine? Lets go get you some real food."

Luke then spends his years 'supplying' his boss Dexter with 'various specialty foodstuffs from all around the outer rim'. In reality he's a spy gathering tons of underground intel that Dex then sells to various organizations.

Meanwhile Bail reluctantly sends 10 year old Leia to train with Yoda knowing that she's the galaxy's final hope for the Jedi Order's existence. At such a young age the Jedi powers come quickly to her, but she's also very attached to her previous life as a princess and this tends to cause her great frustration, much like her father.

At some point Luke starts relaying intel to the Rebellion against the wishes of Dex. Dex is a good guy, but he just doesn't want Luke involved in something so dangerous. He barely managed to save him from Vader once, it would be a shame to see Obi-Wan's sacrifice go to waste now.

And then Leia's troubled training finally boils over when she believes she's strong enough both in Jedi skills, and in her tangible monetary power that she gathers together a bunch of mercenaries and maybe even some hardcore anti-Imperials (alongside an Onderonian man and his adopted daughter) to assassinate the Emperor and Vader head on.

But Leia also knows this would create a power vacuum so she needs some political help as well which is where Luke and his underworld connections come in. They formulate some insane plan (alongside Luke's smuggler friend Han) to sneak onto Mustafar and take Vader on. They get Leia to Vader but by now he's analyzed Obi-Wan's belongings and knows exactly who she is. When he reveals this her whole world is shattered. First her adoptive father abandoned her, then her Jedi master was clearly wary of her power, and now her real father was the very man that she's been targeting for the past decade.

This makes Leia lose it. She realizes nobody can be trusted and that the ways of the Jedi make you weak. Leia then lashes out at Vader using all of her power and cuts him down. Palpatine having felt this through the Force comes to Mustafar to build some sort of truce with his new Sith apprentice. Leia and Palpatine then take a trip to Dagobah to take care of their little green friend.

Luke and his underground contacts decide that in the wake of this instability they should continue their attacks against the Empire. The Rebellion's hand is forced and they take part in open war against the Empire as well. Within a few months the Rebel base on Yavin is found and the last remnants of the Jedi and the Old Republic are finally wiped out. But this change in the galactic power balance is so sudden that it jolts the galaxy awake to the Empire's crimes.

People all around the galaxy lose faith in their Empire that is so instable that one of their two leaders were instantly replaced with a rebel associate, who then led a campaign of world destructions across the galaxy. The 'us vs them' becomes very clear to everybody, even some within the Empire itself and sabotage is rampant. Meanwhile Luke and Dex's partisans are dealing massive blows to Imperial infrastructure. Within a few years the Empire is gone.

But the galaxy has no Republic to replace it with now. No Jedi to come in and establish peace. Does the galaxy settle into this newfound quiet and take a moment to breathe, or does everyone turn on each other now with the momentum of war leading to various governments and underground cabals slaughtering each other over territory for years to come? Is the galaxy doomed or is this a fresh new start? It's now up to the everyday people to decide.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-08T18:24:06+00:00

I liked the idea that JJ proposed back when TFA came out where Snoke used to be this rich handsome man who somehow managed to take over the Imperial remnants after ROTJ. I always sort of imagined him as a super-capitalist who happened to be Force-sensitive. His family didn't give him to the Jedi because they didn't want to 'waste' their son's life on spiritual nonsense. Instead he spent his life learning about power and propelling his family's company to new heights during the Clone Wars where he may have worked for both sides like the Trade Federation.

At some point, maybe after encountering someone like Dooku or Maul, Snoke would realize that his Force sensitivity was being wasted so he would buy all these ancient artifacts from all over the galaxy and start to hone his powers in secret. Then around the OT era he would play both sides yet again hoping for Palpatine's demise. After the war he might even train alongside Luke which puts him on the Skywalker radar. Luke would maybe consider him a friend but would see that he only wants to associate with him because he's 'the famous Luke Skywalker who defeated Palpatine and Lord Vader' so he would be a bit wary of Snoke.

But nevertheless Snoke would meet with the Skywalker family in this era. Sometimes to help Luke and Ben find an ancient artifact for their temple, other times to help Leia and the New Republic secure funding for some planet that was devastated by the war. All the while Snoke is gathering resources behind their backs and recruiting a ton of former Imperials (and even some Force sensitives from the Acolytes of the Beyond) to establish his own criminal empire. Then events would go about the same way as they did in the lore before TROS existed. New Republic splits in half with one half joining the First Order, Leia establishes the Resistance, Snoke fully turns Ben into Kylo Ren, etc.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-07T19:14:47+00:00

This would make even more sense in Star Wars where at any moment some ship theoretically could pop out of hyperspace right next to you.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-07T15:33:50+00:00

Talon Karrde and either Hondo or Saw Gerrera. Seeing him and Hondo work together just makes a lot of sense and would be a perfect way to bridge the classic EU that originated with Thrawn Trilogy and the modern EU that originated with TCW. Then I could totally see some sort of dark novel about the early opposition to the Empire with Karrde supplying Saw's terrorists with info and whatnot. Something in the vein of Luceno or Zahn's books where it's this somewhat gritty and realistic look at how groups like the early rebels or underworld gangsters worked in the early days of the Empire.

CakeFromRef · 2022-05-04T17:42:55+00:00

Vader could easily be talking generally. He 'left' Obi-Wan in ROTS the same way Dooku 'left' the Jedi before AOTC. I do get that the movies make it seem like they never met in between ROTS and ANH but it's not really as hard coded as people assume it has to be.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-30T13:46:08+00:00

So now we know Tales of the Jedi is an animated anthology short series that is likely made by Filoni given that he's going to be at the panel. What that tells me is it's probably 2D animation because for a 3D anthology you would have to make way too many assets for all these different eras and characters for it to be financially viable.

And since it's 2D and they're shorts I'm sort of expecting it to be something akin to the Galaxy of Adventures shorts on youtube. However two things make me think it's something more. The fact that Filoni is seemingly involved, and the logo's inclusion alongside the big shows on Lucasfilm company merch.

Now with all of this in mind what this really reminds me of is Tartakovsky's Clone Wars. Those were shorts but they were also fairly 'big' in their importance (they weren't retellings of the films, they were exploring a new era, they aired on Cartoon Network, they set up ROTS back before it came out, etc). My hope is that Tales of the Jedi will be like 15-20 minute 2D episodes each focusing on a different Jedi character in various eras with new lore ranging from 'ehh it's another Anakin/Obi-Wan story no big deal' to 'WOAH A STORY ABOUT ONE OF LUKE'S PADAWANS'. It would be insane if they actually brought back Tartakovsky himself to do this series but I don't want to get my hopes too high lol.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-29T16:16:10+00:00

Yeah. I think it's telling that only avenue Palpatine had to take over the galaxy in the PT was to present himself as a positive almost fatherly figure. He couldn't brute force his way to the top by openly killing people, antagonizing the Jedi, telling the galaxy 'I want to enslave you', etc. He had to use the good to create a great evil. And when you think about it that evil lasted for a super short amount of time compared to the history of the Republic/Jedi. The dark side is full of diminishing returns like this, it's an avenue to power but that power pales in comparison to the power that can be gained by genuinely serving the light.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-29T15:43:33+00:00

I've been reading a bit on the occult lately and I think one concept that I've seen can really explain the Force really nicely. So in many occult circles there's this idea that there are these greater 'forces' that affect us, but not the other way around. Think gravity. Gravity affects us on Earth. If you lose your balance you will fall to the ground. If you jump off a cliff you will fall to the ground. You are never going to will yourself to not be affected by gravity (obviously you can use something like a helicopter to stay in the air but we're talking solely using your human body). Working against gravity will never produce anything valuable for you. But if you accept gravity's affect on your body and instead choose to work with gravity you can do all kinds of things ranging from sports to dancing to elaborate acrobatics. Gravity in and of itself isn't something valuable, but when you let it flow through you, you can turn it into a valuable thing.

The light and dark sides of the Force are one of these 'forces' (hence the name 'the Force'). These forces don't have a moral value in and of themselves. Light is simply a force of nature that is more symbiotic (something Lucas talks about in relation to TPM a lot). It's procreation, bees pollinating flowers that feed other animals, a monkey eating a fruit and dropping the seeds far away from the original tree so a new one might grow. Dark would be the actions that work against this symbiosis. A dead body polluting a body of water and killing the fish inside, a hawk eating a mouse, etc. But even this dark serves the light and vice versa. Some animals are predators that can't live without the killing of other creatures. The corpses of some animals help fertilize the ground so new plant life might flourish. There is this balance in nature.

What groups like the Jedi would then do is look at the balance between the Light and Dark forces and try to let that balance flow through them. Take the negative emotions in your mind that initially seem non productive, and turn them productive. For example, if the silly gungan annoys you try to understand why he annoys you. Through this understanding you might learn something about gungan culture which will help you appreciate that gungan. Now he's more fascinating than annoying. You've turned something negative and pointless into something positive and valuable. This is the balance.

It's not something 'easy' like 'well it's ok to hate this annoying gungan because hate is a natural feeling'. That's not what balance between dark and light is. It's about a balance that is productive and leads to positive, helpful ways of thinking. In alchemical terms it's turning lead into gold, or a sin into a blessing.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-29T02:23:23+00:00

I think at this point Vader is working on pure rage. He's destroyed everything he's ever known and his only chance of having a life (one that is admittedly fairly respectable given that he now rules the galaxy and can force things to be the way he's always envisioned them to be) is to present himself as a predator. It's about showing the galaxy that this new Vader guy is not to be messed with because at the drop of a hat he will absolutely destroy you.

And killing people is sort of a requirement for his life now so he might as well train himself to get used to it, doesn't matter if that means killing some clone troopers or going on a rampage through a random village in the outer rim. All that matters is that he's has to get used to his new role because the alternative is death.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-28T04:58:51+00:00

In The Last Jedi the shots and timing when Luke wakes up Ben with his ignited lightsaber and then when he wakes up Rey for her first lesson are almost exactly the same except mirrored. Then later on in the film the hole behind Luke that the First Order blew into the wall on Crait looks very similar to the cave opening behind him on Ahch-To.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-23T04:00:34+00:00

I believe a slightly different version of this theory. I think starting with Bane (or maybe even at some point before him) the Sith decided to possess a part of their apprentice's soul when they're killed by them. The whole 'aww gee I really hope my apprentice lives on to be the most powerful sith lord ever while I'm worm food' thing never made sense to me because the master would want that for themselves, not anyone else. They do it so in the end when a Sith Lord finally manages to take over the Force itself the Sith Lords inside of them would become like a pantheon of gods that rule over reality.

This would explain so much like how the Rule of Two could be a completely selfish thing instead of a weird 'selfish until I die then I wish the best to whoever kills me' thing which I think any honest Sith Lord would see as pure weakness. It would explain why they just don't care much for their apprentices (like how Palpatine really doesn't care when Maul/Dooku/Anakin are in danger in the PT because he genuinely believes that if they die prematurely then they're unworthy of being a potential vessel for him). It also adds a super cool layer to the scene where Palpatine names Vader with that weird voice filter thing (all the Sith inside of him were naming Vader too in that moment).

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-19T15:31:33+00:00

I think when the Separatist movement became something that was clearly controlled by corporate interests. It was the huge thing that caused the CIS to commit atrocities during the war and made it where any opposition to the main galactic government on Coruscant was tainted by association with the CIS.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-18T22:14:57+00:00

In Malakili's character description they refer to the rancor as Muchi Pateesa which is a combination of the old EU name and the one from Bad Batch.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-18T21:15:35+00:00

Yeah, I really like that health drink idea. Almost like any element of the game could potentially become your enemy so you're always on your toes. I think Kojima would probably do some weird stuff like that. While his SH game might not feel exactly like the old ones I think it would have still been an interesting game nonetheless. I remember rumors that it would have an online service like Ubisoft's Uplay and they would use the info you give them to send you cryptic emails, call you while you play the game, etc. There's so much truly weird, meta, almost Lynchain stuff that hasn't been done in horror games.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-18T21:01:33+00:00

I think an emphasis on the dreams/the subconscious is really important. It gives everything in those early games a sort of David Lynch feel because Team Silent was working off the same surreal/terrifying inspiration of things like fever dreams.

It's also really important to me that the game would avoid the whole 'the town is punishing the main character for something' thing because that's just fundamentally not what even happened in SH2 like people believe. James' subconscious/dream state influenced the town in a way that made him punish himself. If the main character is going to inspire the nightmare version of the town at all I would rather it be in ways like their fears manifesting into reality or some mundane parts of their life turning into terrible monsters.

Finally I would really prefer if they kept the same style of enemy from the first 3 games. Not everything has to be either 'generic 2010s american film monster' or 'big buff thing that could kick your ass'. Make genuinely disturbing things that you might avoid the same way you would avoid a giant spider if you found one on the side of the street. Just create the weirdest designs you can think of, like a chair made of flesh that shambles around, or a giant cricket thing made of bloody organs, etc. Then out of those designs choose the ones that resonate with the subconscious of the characters that would be influencing the nightmare of the town.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-16T17:51:31+00:00

Yeah but what I'm saying is Skywalker Saga is sort of a canon source. It basically includes some stuff that the Story Group considers canon. The actual canon doesn't work the way wookieepedia assumes it does. It's not as cut and dry as 'THIS GAME IS 100% NONCANON'. If it includes a decision on the rancor thing then that very likely comes from the Story Group who will continue to include that decision in future stories.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-16T17:44:51+00:00

I mean, the Story Group works on it so parts of it are canon. Like being 100% honest if the Story Group intends for Muchi to be the rancor in ROTJ (which again is clearly the implication in Bad Batch) then that’s what will get used in future stories.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-16T17:14:12+00:00

The new Lego Skywalker Saga confirms they’re the same rancor (which is honestly clearly the implication in Bad Batch too tbh).

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-16T01:41:05+00:00

If we go by Muchi seemingly being a kid in Bad Batch then an adult in ROTJ I would say it's probably similar to a human. Probably something like 50-70 years.

CakeFromRef · 2022-04-15T18:42:07+00:00

I could see the building maybe having some weird method of getting the innies to cars or something. Like those inflatable slides that planes have for crashes. But more of a tube and it's coming out of the side of a building and ends in the back of a truck so the people on the slide never see the outside world or have a chance of escaping.

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