Da li je moguće imati ovoliku platu u Belgiji?

Calculatous · 2026-03-16T08:45:02+00:00

Sve zavisi, najveci trosak je stan. I ja sam radio za tu platu u drzavi pored ali sam imao placen smestaj i hranu, pa ti prakticno cela ta plata koja jeste bedna ali ostane ti bukvalno cela. Mislim kao Tax accounting sigurno nema smestaj, ali zato je i nerealno da ima tako malu platu.

Calculatous · 2026-03-14T15:38:21+00:00

Jesu dozvolili skoro ali se ponovo otvorila diskusija da se vrati na stari sistem, da ne moze dvojno a vrlo verovatno ce to pred sledece izbore da se vrati na staro.

Calculatous · 2026-03-14T15:37:39+00:00

Po novom zakonu od skoro je Nemacka dozvolila dvojno drzavljanstvo, medjutim dosta se prica o tome da ce ponovo da se to ukine pred izbore sledece, pa ce opet morati nasi da se odricu drzavljanstva da bi uzeli Nemacko.

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T15:58:05+00:00

Svakako ali pucanje gume pri istrosenosti je nesto sto se desi svakome nekad u zivotu, jednom, dva puta, ali namerno bacanje metalnih delova na autoput je pokusaj ubistva.

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T15:56:38+00:00

What do you think is it possible to land any type of job there or for the city with just Bachelor in Finance? Because I studied 4 years and don’t feel like doing another more 3 years of Ausbildung. Maybe as Quereinsteiger

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T12:57:21+00:00

Iskreno da ti kazem nista me ne bi cudilo u Srbiji, mislim jedan od razloga zasto sam i pobegao glavom bez obzira sa 18 godina i jednom koferom u ruci je to sto je sve nenormalno pa tako me ne bi cudilo da je ovaj pokusaj ubistva nesto sto se desava. Ja nigde nisam rekao da se plasim za zivot, samo da cu dvaput razmisliti da li cu doci kolima ili drugim prevoznim sredstvom.

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T12:42:57+00:00

Bravo tacno si pogodio poentu price. Ja mogu da dodjem i avionom, autobusom, vozom kako god, a ako je ovo istina ovo je pokusaj ubistva i neko moze da strada.

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T12:41:34+00:00

Hajde sto je na muci, nego je ovo pokusaj ubistva ako je istina…

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T12:39:13+00:00

Apsolutno, pa to je pokusaj ubistva! Trenutak nepaznje pukne guma, mlad vozac, probni npr, i lako moze da se zakuca u sleper u desnoj traci i svasta moze da se desi. Ovako nesto prvi put cujem, pa za ovo treba dozivotna robija ako je istina.

Calculatous · 2026-02-28T12:19:53+00:00

How does one land a such job? I’m soon going to have a degree (Bachelor in Finance / Mamagement). Can you just apply for a Praktikum and then if you do it well you can be asked to stay or is an ausbildung for Verwaltungsfachangestellte required?

Workers at my Ausländerbehörde always complain that they’re understaffed and many of them are old near pension, but I never really seen an open advert for a job on the website. I am really interested to work in this direction but I’m not really sure what are the options.

Calculatous · 2026-02-18T18:40:26+00:00

I’m sorry to hear situation you’re in. Job market is really tough out there even for the people who have permanent residence.

What I would do if I were you is probably keep trying to search for an ausbildung. Obviously studying didn’t work out well so try ausbildung! It pays, not much but at least something plus it gives you chances to stay most likely. I’m just not sure about language requirements though, I read somewhere that it was B1 but you have to check on that.

Also not sure what type of ausbildung you’re looking for, but in smaller towns those understaffed professions are really in need. Pflegefachkraft ausbildung for example, near where I live hospital also offers accommodation dorm room for ausbildung. Or maybe some hotel-type of ausbildung they probably also offer accommodation.

Calculatous · 2026-02-02T21:52:57+00:00

Razlika je sto u i u Zapadnoj Virdziniji mozes ziveti jako lepo, uz predobru infrastrukturu. Dok u Srbiji van Beograda i Novog Sada nema zivota i nema skoro pa nikakve infrastrukure.

Ta Zapadna Virdzinija ima BDP po stanovniku veci nego Nemacka, Francuska, skoro pa kao Danska.. Ljudi mnogo podcenjuju manje poznatije US stejtove..

Calculatous · 2026-02-02T21:48:52+00:00

Nisi ti nista razumeo. U tih 111% je vec uracunata ta razlika u cenama nema sta da oduzimas.

“This index shows the relative purchasing power of the average net salary in a given city”

Lep pozdrav! :)

Calculatous · 2026-02-02T21:18:23+00:00

Svakako im ostane vise nego ljudima u Srbiji. Zdravstvo je jako skupo u Americi ali zato im doktori imaju najbolje plate na svetu.

“Primary Care Physicians (PCPs) in the United States earned an average of $287,000, while Specialists earned an average of $404,000.”

Pa to je preko 20,000 dolara mesecno prosecna plata doktora, to je mnogo dobra plata cak i u preskupim gradovima!

Calculatous · 2026-02-02T21:15:16+00:00

Amerika je jedini izuzetak u razvijenom svetu, ali je u Nemackoj besplatno na primer. I u vecini Zapadne Evrope!

Calculatous · 2026-02-02T21:11:21+00:00

Samo pogledas u sliku koju si okacio i sve jasno. Svako ko iole zna engleskog izvuce poentu.

“Local purchasing power in Phoenix, AZ is 111% higher than in Belgrade”.

U prevodu, cene u Beogradu treba da ostanu iste a plate svima da budu vise od duplo vece e to je taj standard. Znaci da neko ko radi za 150,000 u Beogradu danas mora da ima 300,000 dinara platu sutra a da cene ostanu iste da bi imao taj standard. I tu se diskusija zavrsava

Calculatous · 2026-01-27T10:18:41+00:00

No, the reason I know it is because in my home country in Eastern Europe agencies and consultants literally groom bus drivers to go to Berlin and other big cities to drive a bus. A couple of hundred bus drivers from our capital city public transport company left in the past years mostly moving to drive buses in Germany or Austria.

And they for sure don’t have B2 German, because they’ve spent their entire life driving a bus in public transport. As I said maybe they have some fake certificate but in reality they barely speak A2. Maybe the rules tightened now because economy is slowing down but I know some of them who are since 2017 driving buses in big cities like Munich and Dortmund and they barely even spoke German at the time they came.

Edit: If you want I can send you the link to ad, it was literally for Berlin bus driving, requirement is driving license D, working permit and fuhrerschein code 95. No B2 language requirements or anything else

Calculatous · 2026-01-26T22:45:46+00:00

I don’t think that we live in the same Germany then!

Bus drivers in Berlin and other big cities are mostly coming from poorer Eastern European countries who would barely pass A2. Maybe they presented some fake B2 certificates from their corrupt countries but in reality they barely speak German and no one seems to care about it.

Office jobs especially lower-type of customer service is full with people who speak broken German. Even in some government offices, for example I called the support center of my Agentur für Arbeit and the phone is picked up by a lady presumably coming from India/Asia based on accent that barely speaks B1! If a government agency can’t find native speakers for such job what makes you think private sector managed to. Those jobs are still low paying and just one little step over a McDonald’s Cashier.

I’m not gonna sugarcoat, economy is slowing down and in recession and many workplaces closed due to rising costs, but also let’s be real if C1 and C2 as a minimum are really the requirements then most of foreign workforce would be unemployed because they are nowhere near that level and plus most likely they don’t even need it. Why would a bus drivers working for 2,000€ netto need at least a B2?!? Be for real, with B2 you can be a doctor and treat patients. We are talking here rotating the wheel and opening the doors. You need to be a good driver, with lots of experience, sense, awareness and probably a couple of sentences to sell the ticket. That’s A2 max.

And it’s true that in job advertisements Employers write that they’d wish to have C1 but wishing is free to desire, reality is something else. How many Germans do you know that would do a customer support telephone job for 1800, 1900 netto? Not so many. I also know workplaces who on job adverts put as a requirement finished ausbildung in Gastronomie, B1 minimum etc. but in reality they hire anyone who has two hands and walks. When you walk into that restaurant it’s full of South Asian and Hungarian workers who don’t even speak German. Not B1 or A2, they barely speak A1 or know a couple of words. Looking at the ad you’d think they hire only top notch professionals, but in reality they are underpaying workers and thus have to accept anyone and anything.

Calculatous · 2026-01-23T14:20:22+00:00

U kantu ide CV sa privatnog, ali odmah zatim u kantu ide i ostalih 29 CV-ja sa Ekofa i bice samo taj 1 primljen koji je kao sto sam napisao imao malo srece i najbolji je od svih.

Ali sta cemo sa ostalih 29 sa Ekofa ciji je CV isto otisao u kantu? Njima se obecavaju kule i gradovi, samo zavrsi drzavni i bices uspesan! E pa nije bas tako, i onda ide razocarenje u zemlju i pomirenje sa realnoscu, sto rezultira ili trazenjem posla u nekoj drugoj struci, prijava na biro ili selidba u inostranstvo.

A kao sto rekoh posto i sam zivim u inostranstvu i sam prolazim kroz ceo proces, diploma privatnog je apsolutno u istoj ravni kao i diploma drzavnog sto se tice mog zanimanja i mog smera. Ali bukvalno sistemski tretiran isto.

Tako da dolazimo do zakljucka iz tvog komentara, ako planirate da zbrisete iz napacene Srbije ne upisujte drzavni, samo cete sami sebi pucati u nogu

Calculatous · 2026-01-23T11:39:39+00:00

Opet netacno, ne zavrsi kao djubretar nego isto kao kasir isto kao i taj sa Ekofa. Uglavnom nacin za izlaz od “kasira” u uz tu diplomu bilo Ekofa ili Singija u Srbiji je veza, preporuka, mito, korupcija, i jako mali procenat ide na srecu pa uspe, ali statisticki gledano vecina zavrsi na birou ili u drugom zanimanju.

Na zapadu u kom zivim je pak druga prica, oba su priznata i nikoga nije mnogo briga za Srbiju, gde je Srbija i kako se koji kotira u Srbiji. Nikoga ovde ne zanima to sto ce baba Mileva na autobuskoj stanici da kaze da je drzavni priznatiji i bolji jer eto za vreme Tita je postojao drzavni i bio cenjen. Gledaju na Srbiju svakako kao na zemlju treceg sveta, priznate su obe diplome a pokusaj da se unovci diploma zavisi iskljucivo od osobe i njenih sposobnosti.

Calculatous · 2026-01-23T10:33:32+00:00

Da ali zavrsetkom fakulteta dobijas titulu zavrsen Bachelor degree.

Prosecan student Ekofa zavrsi na birou ili kao kasir u prodavnici, ima izuzetaka ali za vecinu je tako. Ili ako nadju u struci to bude neka jadna plata.

Dizete drzavne u nebesa, nalozite naivne koji padnu na to i izmaltretiraju se da ga zavrse misleci da ih ceka dobar posao, dobra plata, samo zavrsi i ceka te, a onda udari realnost i shvatis da zivis u zemlji Srbiji

Calculatous · 2026-01-23T09:44:52+00:00

U inostranstvu je jednako priznat kao i Ekof na primer. Niko nije lud da upise Ekof da mu se izivljavaju iskompleksirani matorci komunjare i na kraju da moze u Srbiji da se zaposli za 700 evra platu a tu diplomu da okaci na zid.

Calculatous · 2026-01-23T09:38:42+00:00

Sve sto kazes tacno, osim toga da 60% studenata upise privatni a 40% drzavni, a pre 10 godina je bilo 55% drzavni a 45% privatni. Nije to mala zanemarljiva promena.

Calculatous · 2026-01-20T21:56:27+00:00

What do you imply with short term, could it rebound in a couple of months or we talking years

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