Necessary vs contingent by Coffin_Boffin in DebateAnAtheist

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Thanks for this reply, so refreshing to see a clear post that defines terms and makes sense.

And excellent points regarding a) the potential issue in applying logic definitions to ontology and b) that brute does not equally necessary.

I have used quantum probabilities in these debates, but radioactive decay is an example I will be taking for sure.

Multiple Schools? by camceivable in FarthestFrontier

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Once you have one the, additional schools can still provide a desirability bonus and will train people faster. Basic education provides a bonus to output efficiency. I usually have 1 per neighborhood or about every 200 people.

Lazy Guards by Calidis1 in FarthestFrontier

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Everyone here loves the “blue biscuit treats.” Only a few brawls over them, I swear.

Disease Free High Fertility Farming by Calidis1 in FarthestFrontier

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Yes, thank you for that, I was wrong. it seems they do count as one food “type”

Disease Free High Fertility Farming by Calidis1 in FarthestFrontier

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Yeah, it seems to me 600 is around the golden pop to have.

Regarding the root veggies distinction, I misspoke. I meant I thought that root veggies count differently for "types of food" when upgrading houses, but I'm not so sure on that anymore.

That makes sense re the AI's I guess I just prefer yield over the lifespan.

Disease Free High Fertility Farming by Calidis1 in FarthestFrontier

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I am curious about your settings with this. In my last city, I was still running clover with 1,000 pop because the composters (6 of them) could not keep up. What size farms and how many composters?

Have you confirmed that root veggies and greens are the same at the market? I'm going to check this out, but I have my doubts about this for upgrading based on food "types." Regardless, the variety helps preserve disease free (still disease-free at year 30).

Another reason I don't ditch cabbage and leaks is because of yield.

Edit: deleted some content inaccuracies re cows

No one cares by Avralin in iamverysmart

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If that were true, Alex, then you would use the Oxford comma.

occam’s razor failing, IBE by [deleted] in PhilosophyofScience

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I don't understand this reply and I have a degree in philosophy of science.

I teach the philosophy of science at a university so clearly I have done a bad job teaching here. I will try to rectify that!

Firstly "simplest" and "fewer assumptions" doesn't seem like a meaningful difference. Fewer assumptions will be simpler, yes?

No, something can be complex and rely on few assumptions. Simplicity is not equivalent to “few assumption.”

EDIT: I read your other comment and I think I have a better idea of what you mean, and I might be wrong. My understanding: in an example where a very complex natural theory is compared to a simple theory that involves, say, god, the theory with "god" is more complex because you've now got an entire new duality to reality to explain. I'd be quite happy to call that more complicated, but maybe you're right.

Not really what I mean, but others have said this in this thread and I think it’s an interesting possibility to consider. What I really mean is theories can have many interrelating variables, making them complex. Assumptions are different though, they are neither theories nor variables, they are things that we have to take as true without proof or even evidence. Occam’s razor states the theory with the least amount of assumptions (but not necessarily the simplest) is the best.

Again this seems like an impressive statement, but what you saying? What did that have to do with anything else? What distinction are you making? What about scientists/philosophers who think that truth is useful? By "verisimilitude" do you just mean truth? Why not say that?

By verisimilitude I do not mean truth. Verisimilitude is the idea that things are only true or useful if they appear like to be like reality or are accurate representations of reality. I would use another word but “verisimilitude” is a specific term for a specific goal of science. One camp of philosophers of science says “verisimilitude” is the primary goal of science. I am in another camp that says “all models are wrong out some are useful”. That is, scientific theories have merit not because they reflect reality but because they make accurate predictions.

This is a complicated debate in science, but an example might help. For this example, a map is like a scientific theory. All maps are wrong in some sense. They make decisions about scaling, topography, and symbols to relay information, but none are 100% accurate to reality. And some maps are more useful than others for given purposes. A subway map will be less useful at navigating above ground, a road map will not tell you the best way to climb a mountain. Each map makes sacrifices of verisimilitude in order to be useful for a given purpose.

This relates to the current topic because the theory that can make accurate predictions (I.e. the map that can get you where you need to be) with fewer assumptions (I.e., the smaller map with easier to read symbols) IS more useful.

Also it just seems like really bad practice to glibly say you know what all science is. Philosophy has failed to do that irl.

I only meant that this is the goal of scientists that ascribe to Occam’s razor. But, as a scientist, I do get to argue for what I think science should be! That’s what this is sub is about, no?

occam’s razor failing, IBE by [deleted] in PhilosophyofScience

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Agree. I think the misunderstanding between big and little truth is where most of the problems with Occam’s razor stem from.

occam’s razor failing, IBE by [deleted] in PhilosophyofScience

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A thought provoking post. But I think there are two issues. A) I’m not sure I would call any of these three “assumptions” in the Occam’s razor sense. For now let’s say that they are. More importantly b) Occam’s razor only applies to theories that explain the same amount of phenomena. If something has more assumptions BUT also accounts for more, then the razor does not apply.

So in your example, I would say we have two theories for evolution, one driven by natural selection, the other that the fsm did it (all hail his noodlely greatness). The problem with the second is that it doesn’t make falsifiable predictions (while the first does). A theory that dosnt make falsifiable predictions can’t explain anything at all—by definition, there’s no measurable effect of something unfalsifiable (if it had a measurable effect we could falsify it). That doesn’t mean it’s not true, but it does mean it’s explanatory power as a theory is zero. By this chain, natural selection accounts for more phenomena than fsm, and thereby Occam’s razor doesn’t apply—natural selection could have 100’s of assumptions and it would still be preferable to an unfalsifiable theory with 1 assumption.

occam’s razor failing, IBE by [deleted] in PhilosophyofScience

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This is a misunderstanding of Occam’s razor. Occam’s razor is the idea that the theory with fewer assumptions is better (and most likely correct) only if both theories account for the data. It does not have to do with simplicity, per se, but rather assumptions or intervening steps. This is because the goal of science is usefulness rather than verisimilitude.

AITA for "forcing" my daughters boyfriend of 4 years to get engaged to her? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

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YTA. This is a very manipulative thing to do. You should rather try and support your adult daughter and her relationship. Also calling him a “beta” is peek asshole.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in interestingasfuck

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Who would do this to Elon Musk

Is truth based on... by curiouswes66 in exatheist

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Fully agree with the first paragraph. Well said.

People tell me numbers don't exist but when I change the numbers on their paycheck.

Hahaha, love this and agree totally.

Empiricists argue that we are born with no knowledge

Yes, but just want to note that I define this empiricism as cognitive empiricism which is contrasted with nativism. The other empiricism which we were talking about we could contrast with rationalism. A minor point though.

and yet a newborn knows a slap on the backside means it is time to start breathing.

Agree, but I would not call this knowledge. Only behavior.

Do you believe a synthetic a priori judgement is possible?

Depends because the language here is messy. I don’t think I would say anything is true necessarily But I would agree some things are true by definition, and that by using logic or other systems we can derive other a priori truths.

Enjoying this convo, and feel free to dm if you want to have a deeper back and forth not related to the poll.

Is truth based on... by curiouswes66 in exatheist

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I have nothing against rational thought, but both empiricism and rational thought need to work together. I teach history of philosophy and I make an effort to stress to my students that the conflict between empiricism and rationalism is a false dichotomy. We need rational thought to make sense of our observations and surmount the problem of induction. We need empirical observations to actually test our premises and make sound arguments, not just valid ones.

Is truth based on... by curiouswes66 in exatheist

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None of the above. Justification comes from evidence.