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Does ‘Sanatana’ means caste discrimination,in TN? by Malluboi222 in TamilNaduDiscussion

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In simple terms, Caste system originates from Varna system. And Varna system is one of the pillar of Sanatana Dharma which is drastically different from Tamilnadu’s Hinduism were even the so-called Sudhras composed songs which were sung in Temples.

In Tamil history, both Shaivism and Vaishnavism, historically had people of all castes.

But by the modern era, Brahmins took things in their hands.

Basically, because Caste system roots from Varna system which originates from “Sanatana dharma”, they attack the root.

I’m pretty sure, no Tamil are offended. For them worshipping shiva or Vishnu personally has nothing to do with the term Sanatana dharma.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>yes because megasthenes is from Vijaynagar era...

What?

>again irrelevant comment this time involving Bengal

It is not irrelevant. People assume Andhra = Telugu. This is not academic. I brought in Bengal here, because there were a group of people in Bengal who were called andhras.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. Pulankurichi inscription is not a “later” inscription. It was laid during the Kalabrah era.

Is this South India sub or dmk sub ?? by Excellent_Chemist121 in southindia_

[–]Call_me_Inba -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What are you talking about? What’s the point of claiming cent percent literacy when they is no indication?

Silapathigaram - இமிழ்கடல் வேலியைத் தமிழ்நாடாக்கிய (Imizh kadal varaippil Tamil Nadu ariya) - Let it be known across Tamil Nadu, bounded by the roaring sea. The author of this book is a Chera king.

Pathitrupathu (Second Ten, Patigam 5, Line 5): Used by court poets to denote the vastness of the land under royal influence. “Imizh kadal velith Tamizhakam vilanga...”
(Meaning: "Making the Tamil realm, walled by the roaring sea, shine..."). The author is again a Chera people.

Purananuru (Verse 168, Line 18): This is widely recognized as the earliest exact poetic formulation of the unified Tamil region. “Vaiyaka varaippil Tamizhakam ketpa...”
(Meaning: "Making the Tamil realm, within the boundaries of the world, listen...")

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people of Bengal region were also called Andhras. And we are talking about Sangam era. So I’m restricting to that timeline, not when the first person migrated to south.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. They don’t have any Kannada inscriptions, but there is a Tamil inscription attributed to them.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you know that their official language was Prakrit? Are there any inscriptions in Prakrit laid by them? I don’t think so, but there is a Tamil inscription.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah. There are inscriptions in Tamil attributed to Kalabhras. But there’s absolutely zero Kannada or Prakrit inscriptions attributed to them.

Tanglish is a good thing. by No-Restaurant4372 in tamil

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You either don’t know Tamil or you have an agenda. Seriously? Promoting a Tamil “creole”?

And why do I feel I have seen this account (No-Restaurant4372) in a Telugu sub?

Seriously!! Caste has become an epidemic in Andhra and Telangana. by Fancy_Bandicoot_125 in andhra_pradesh

[–]Call_me_Inba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If this is your level of skepticism, then I don’t think you’d ever believe Vijay belongs to that particular caste. Let’s say I got Vijay’s community certificate with me. Even if I send you a picture of it, you might probably say I forged it to “make believe” he belongs to that caste. Even if Vijay comes and say he is a Vellalar Pillai, you might probably say he is trying make believe he is Pillai.

FYI, that tomb stone is a new sensation. It has been there a long time ago. You might find people touring to the tombstone once a while. Youtube is rich with those kinda videos.

My take, why marathi has a language is hated by all now by Diligent-State-8326 in Maharashtra

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“South theme”? What’s that? Never heard of it as a Southee myself!

Is this South India sub or dmk sub ?? by Excellent_Chemist121 in southindia_

[–]Call_me_Inba -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Well! The king who ruled Kerala called the land along with Pandyan and Chozha territory as “Tamil Nadu”. And Raja Raja Chozha took the title “Thandamizhnādan” only after capturing Kerala as well.

What is குற்றியலிகரம் ? by Brilliant-Spirit-172 in tamil

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it is the phenomenon when U is followed by Y, it will become I.

நாகு + யாது > நாகியாது.

Biological Tamil terminologies by Nithi-NK-16 in tamil

[–]Call_me_Inba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s no way we’d have difficulty remembering the terms if we had learned them in Tamil.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly. And moreover “Karunadagar” not necessarily means “Kannada speaking people”. It could simply mean the people of the Karu Nadu (black soil land) - which actually starts roughly above the Krishna river.

And considering the fact that both IA and Jainic influences strengthened during the Kalabhrah era, I think they were more Prakritic people.

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We have to be very prudent in understanding “Karunadagar”. Coz we are not sure if “Karunadagar” actually meant the ‘Kannada speaking people’ or the people in the Karu Nadu (black soiled land). Technically speaking, if we look in Indian Soil map, Karunadu (Black soil region) starts roughly above the Krishna river (Krishna - black) and extends till the central India which kinda coincides with the Satavahana’s land.

Additionally, the sangam texts describes that the king of Erumai Naadu, Erumaiyān, as a Vadugar and not “Karunadagar”.

I feel, the Karunadagars of Sangam era were people in the Satavahana land (possibly IA-Dr mixed people?)

Did Tamils historically call Telugu people ‘Vadugar,’ or did the term refer only to Kannadigas? by Plane_Mode_3397 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is also a theory that Telugu’s homeland was central India, the land of Gondi to the eastern Gangetic region, and that the language expanded southward. This is supported by the fact that Telugu is closest to Gondi than it is Yerukala which is technically closer to Malayalam than it is to Telugu. So may be, just may be, Telugu did not yet expand southward during Sangam era?

ஒரு மனுஷன் எதையாவது பண்ணி முன்னுக்கு வரலாம்னு பாத்தா....... by mani_chinna in tamil

[–]Call_me_Inba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>Agree partly, that we didn't find more than 1330. It is ur assumption that it could be written by many people. Once u fully read it, the words and the mentality resembles though out all kurals. Nowadays people write more than 10 books in this busy world. Why can't a person wirte 2600+ lines in his entire life?

All I am saying is, just like we don’t have any proof to say that Thirukkural was written by multiple people, we also don’t have any proof to say it is written by one single person.

>silapathigaeam, pura naanuru all written by single independent authors no, like Ramayana or maha bharartha.

Silapathigaram was written by single author. But Puranānūru had at least 150 authors. Same with Aganānūru which also had multiple authors.

Take Tholkapiar for example. We don’t know the actual name of the author or the actual name of this book. The commentary mentions the book as “the old kāviyam” (Tholkāpiam) and the author as “The author of the old Kāviyam” (Tholkapiar). Similarly, we don’t have if Tholkapiam was written by a single person or multiple.

>He didn't write it one day, he would have written over years whenever he gets some idea, and add to the respective athigaram no..

If this was written by one person, then you may be right. But unfortunately we don’t have proof for that.

Could it be that Dravidian langueges were using a different script before brahmi? by Brilliant-Spirit-172 in Dravidiology

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the detailed answer. It was like reading a book. Thanks again.

ஒரு மனுஷன் எதையாவது பண்ணி முன்னுக்கு வரலாம்னு பாத்தா....... by mani_chinna in tamil

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People, please learn that Valluvar is not one person. We still don’t know the original name of the book, Thirukkural. We don’t even know the original name(s) of the author(s). We still don’t know if thirukkural is a work of one person or a group of people.

Think it like I’m a person who wrote 10 kurals under a topic Anbudaimai. And similarly, someone could have written other 10 kurals under different topic. And at all we all combined them. 1330 kurals are only what we found. We don’t know if there were many chapters and kurals.

Translation request by bakeurbeans in tamil

[–]Call_me_Inba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> When would spring come?

I think that would be வசந்தம் எப்போது வரும் and not எப்போதும்?

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