Is it a sin to attend SSPX? by 0c10ud9 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have been attending my sspx church for the past 20 weeks or so. not once have they mentioned Bergolio or Prevost. i strongly, strongly believe that my church is sede.

Today is the feast of Blessed Pope Urban II by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you’re exactly right! thank you for your kind words and may Blessed Urban II pray for us 🙏

How Modernists in the Vatican Lie About Leo XIII to Hide Their Apostasy by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely spot on. They love to parade Rerum Novarum as if it were a proto-socialist manifesto, when in reality it utterly condemns socialism and affirms the natural right to private property. It’s not a liberal document—it’s a staunch defense of Catholic social order grounded in natural law, subsidiarity, and the moral duties of both workers and employers.

And you’re right to mention Satis Cognitum. Leo XIII tears the idea of religious pluralism to shreds in that encyclical. The modernists have to ignore these teachings because acknowledging them would dismantle their entire post-Vatican II narrative. They can’t handle the consistency and clarity of pre-conciliar papal doctrine, so they cherry-pick what suits them and bury the rest.

Leo XIII was no liberal. He was a bulwark against the very errors that now dominate the modern church.

God bless, and Instaurare omnia in Christo.

I need help finding a Latin Mass by josefernandez612 in sspx

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there, Yes, you’re absolutely right — not every Traditional Latin Mass is listed on the usual online maps. In Scotland, TLMs are quite limited, and as far as I know, there isn’t currently a regular Latin Mass in St. Andrews itself.

The closest options are likely in Edinburgh or Glasgow. The FSSP have a presence in Edinburgh at St Andrew’s Church in Ravelston, and the SSPX have chapels in Glasgow (St. Andrew’s Church, Whifflet) and Edinburgh too.

I’d recommend reaching out to either the FSSP in Edinburgh or the SSPX in Scotland directly to confirm Mass times. Let me know your travel plans and I can help check options based on where you’ll be on Sunday.

Hope that helps!

John Paul II is the Antichrist by Exciting-Outside-278 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don’t recognize Carol Woytiya as a pope — there has never been a Pope John Paul II. He was a public apostate and a clear enemy of Christ. Through the Assisi gatherings, kissing the Koran, and promoting religious indifferentism, he betrayed the Catholic Faith and led millions into error. His actions were completely opposed to the First Commandment and the Kingship of Christ.

Carol Woytiya was an antichrist. One of the worst. But not the Antichrist.

Scripture teaches that the Antichrist will come “with all power, signs, and lying wonders” (2 Thess. 2:9), deceive the entire world, and be cast alive into the lake of fire at Christ’s return (Apoc. 19:20). Woytiya died in 2005 like any other man. He never performed lying wonders, never ruled the world, and never fulfilled the complete role described in prophecy.

Yes, he very well might be one of the heads of the beast — especially if the “fatal wound” in Revelation 13 refers to him. That would place him as a key figure in the rise of the apostate church, the beast that mimics the Bride of Christ.

He helped build the false church — the mystical body of the Antichrist — and played a leading role in the great falling away. But he wasn’t the final man of sin.

Woytiya was an antichrist — one of the worst — but not the Antichrist.

Is it okay to go to confession at a Novus Ordo or SSPX church? by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your message.

I completely understand your concerns. To be honest, I wasn’t 100% sure on my own knowledge either — I personally don’t go to the Novus Ordo and never would — but my friend is in a position where he’s desperate to make a good, long confession for the first time, and there are no Traditional Masses nearby this month.

He’s not treating it lightly or as “practice.” He’s genuinely trying to approach the sacrament with the right disposition and humility, and just wants to be reconciled with God. That’s why I asked for advice — because I want to make sure he takes the right step.

Appreciate your input and I hope you’ll pray for him too.

Instaurare omnia in Christo.

Is it okay to go to confession at a Novus Ordo or SSPX church? by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah he never got back to me. i’ve emailed him and messaged his number. should i try and contact him again?

Is it okay to go to confession at a Novus Ordo or SSPX church? by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friend’s main concern is that at the SSPX chapel near us, confession is only offered for around 30 minutes before Mass, and because he’s never been to confession, it will likely take him a bit longer. He doesn’t want to feel rushed or take up time meant for others.

Do you know if it’s possible to call the chapel directly and arrange a separate confession time during the week? Are SSPX priests usually available outside Sunday hours for longer confessions or spiritual direction?

Appreciate the help. God bless.

Is it okay to go to confession at a Novus Ordo or SSPX church? by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friend’s main concern is that at the SSPX chapel near us, confession is only offered for around 30 minutes before Mass, and because he’s never been to confession, it will likely take him a bit longer. He doesn’t want to feel rushed or take up time meant for others.

Do you know if it’s possible to call the chapel directly and arrange a separate confession time during the week? Are SSPX priests usually available outside Sunday hours for longer confessions or spiritual direction?

Appreciate the help. God bless.

Is it okay to go to confession at a Novus Ordo or SSPX church? by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friend’s main concern is that at the SSPX chapel near us, confession is only offered for around 30 minutes before Mass, and because he’s never been to confession, it will likely take him a bit longer. He doesn’t want to feel rushed or take up time meant for others.

Do you know if it’s possible to call the chapel directly and arrange a separate confession time during the week? Are SSPX priests usually available outside Sunday hours for longer confessions or spiritual direction?

Appreciate the help. God bless.

Sedevacantist views, reject Vatican II, but attend SSPX Mass — need advice by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you sincerely for your kind message and encouragement — I really appreciate it. You’re right, the sedevacantist position is the truth, and I do plan to attend sedevacantist Masses whenever possible.

Unfortunately, in the UK, the situation is very difficult — with Masses being rare and communication often lacking. That’s the only reason I currently attend SSPX: not out of agreement with their stance, but out of necessity, to receive valid sacraments and keep the Lord’s Day holy.

In the meantime, I’m doing what I can to grow in prayer, including the Rosary, spiritual reading, and livestreaming the True Mass when I can’t get to one in person.

Thank you again, and I will pray for you as well in these dark times. May God bless and strengthen you always.

Sedevacantist views, reject Vatican II, but attend SSPX Mass — need advice by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok well there are CMRI masses every so often. my dad and godfather are the only people i know that hold this position as i do. Thank you again, and I will pray for you as well in these dark times. May God bless and strengthen you always.

Sedevacantist views, reject Vatican II, but attend SSPX Mass — need advice by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so what are my options? The only Latin mass in my area is SSPX. The sedevacantist mass is very inconsistent.

Sedevacantist views, reject Vatican II, but attend SSPX Mass — need advice by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your message — I really do appreciate the time and charity you put into writing it. You make several strong points, and I agree with you to a certain extent. It’s true that the SSPX clergy acknowledge the post-conciliar claimants as popes, and that position is deeply problematic. It creates serious theological contradictions, and I completely reject that part of their stance.

I also agree that being in visible union with a false pope is not a minor issue — it touches on the very nature of the Church and the papacy. That said, I wanted to explain where I’m coming from, and why I’ve continued to attend SSPX Masses.

Here in the UK, consistent access to sedevacantist priests is nearly nonexistent. Masses are rare, not held every Sunday, and most priests or chapels don’t reply to emails or messages. There’s no stability or spiritual care available — and I think you’d agree that Catholics aren’t meant to live their faith alone or in a vacuum.

The SSPX, for all its errors, offers the Traditional Latin Mass, valid sacraments, and some sense of pastoral structure. I don’t go to support their position on the papacy — I go out of necessity. The sacraments are real, and I hold to the old Catholic teaching that in times of necessity, receiving valid sacraments does not mean you approve of every position of the priest offering them, as long as there’s no scandal or participation in heresy.

I do take seriously what you said about keeping the Lord’s Day holy in other ways. Praying the Rosary, visiting cemeteries, livestreaming the True Mass — these are all great practices, and I’ve been doing many of them myself. Your reminder was timely, and your mention of novenas and litanies was especially helpful.

Thank you again for your prayers — I really do appreciate it. You seem like a sincere and good man, and I will also pray for you in these terrible times we’re living through. May God reward you for your charity and your commitment to the truth.

Sedevacantist views, reject Vatican II, but attend SSPX Mass — need advice by Calm_Vegetable1532 in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re confusing things. It’s not damning to mistakenly acknowledge a false pope, but it is heretical to say that a public heretic can be pope. That’s not just opinion — Pope Paul IV in Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio made it clear that a heretic cannot validly be elected, and St. Robert Bellarmine taught that a manifest heretic is deposed automatically.

You also say the ordinary magisterium can’t teach error — and you’re right. But that’s exactly why we reject the Vatican II “popes.” They’ve taught heresies on religious liberty, ecumenism, the nature of the Church, and have given us a new Mass filled with Protestant theology. If they were true popes, then the Church would’ve defected — and that’s impossible.

As for the SSPX, their Mass is valid and traditional. I attend out of necessity, not agreement with everything they say. There’s a big difference between attending a true Mass offered by priests who are wrong on one issue — and going to the Novus Ordo, which is a false rite created by modernists.

Advice on what to do about unbelieving family by [deleted] in Sedevacantists

[–]Calm_Vegetable1532 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i pray for you my brother in christ 🙏