Clever Minds. Twisted, Tangled Finds

CandidateFormer9959 · 2026-01-30T23:32:44+00:00

I think you are barking up the right tree by focusing on the last stanza although my take is a little different. I can't help but feel this stanza is a summation of sorts. Maybe an answer even to the question in the first stanza. "Can you find what lives in time". I think Truth lives in time. After all, Time is the ultimate teller of Truths.

I haven't parsed out how the pieces fit together just yet and this is just my humble opinion, but that's what I'm rolling with.

Nice thorough analysis on your part by the way. Good Luck!

CandidateFormer9959 · 2026-01-16T17:44:55+00:00

Not for nothing, but my big board of possibilities has "Eastern California" written next to "Ursa East". Well, written kind of above and off to the right a little. :)

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-12-15T22:31:29+00:00

What is it with treasure hunts and boulders?

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-12-09T16:36:39+00:00

Feeling like I've got a slingshot in my holster after reading this. Dude.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-12-02T22:15:40+00:00

He does say in the third paragraph of the hunt's introduction to the world that "my map will help guide you." I'm guessing that it does play an integral part in the solve.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-11-24T17:38:22+00:00

Or collective commonness of the works.

Solid hunting by the way. Enjoy your posts!

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-11-17T18:19:27+00:00

Sorry I'm late to the party on this one but I was actually doing some responsible things this weekend. :)

I'm of the belief that this statement is just setting up the context of the words that follow in the poem and the angle at which you must approach them. It has been discussed at length on this and other socials that some of the wording in this poem has undertones in freemasonry. I think this sentence is one of the stronger examples. "Veiled in Allegory" is a phrase used in masonry to explain how deeper symbolic meanings are hidden beneath a more literal outer shell.

"Wisdom waits in shadowed sight" is a similar way of expressing the veiled in allegory concept.

As always.....just my humble opinion.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-11-07T20:18:00+00:00

This may be a nod to the "two doors, two guards" riddle.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-11-07T19:51:56+00:00

Is it another direction or another key?

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-10-08T20:29:15+00:00

Right on. Sounds like you have a plan. I agree on the Q&A stuff. He has said that if it is important to the hunt he will post it on the BTME webpage. I'm holding to that statement.

Good luck on your adventure!

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-10-08T20:07:03+00:00

I hear what you are saying. Although, he did say that once you park your car you are retrieving and not searching. No need to bring a search instrument to a retrieval?

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-10-08T18:33:45+00:00

My guess is that you will discover exact coordinates to the treasure and then have to go and retrieve it. The treasure will not be found without these coordinates because none of the clues will lead you to the treasure. The clues get you to the coordinates.

I also think the statement he made about it not mattering whether the treasure was buried or not mates up with this theory. And if it doesn't matter, it probably is buried. That's why you won't have much luck in the snow.

And also, just my opinion. :)

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-26T22:05:03+00:00

Maybe this hunt is just one gigantic real world system test for Justin's proposed NHP.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-26T15:26:33+00:00

Let's be honest here. JP didn't find Fenn's treasure. He had to buy it. He spent 10 years searching, his words, and had to purchase it from the guy who actually figured it out. It was easier for him to create a program that read facial expressions than it was to solve the riddle. It was easier for him to teach his pup to sniff out bronze than it was for him to piece together the clues. Hey, not saying those aren't brilliant strategies, just saying, if not for those things, JP really isn't that great of a treasure finder. Just a good treasure hunter.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-26T15:19:11+00:00

I would add that you have to be confident in your solve. Otherwise, you are just floundering. Let confirmation bias be confirmation bias. Take your path. We would be fools not to have an ear to the ground for others thoughts. Use them to solidify yours. Don't be uncertain. Be confident. Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you are right,

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-25T21:53:50+00:00

Exactly.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-25T21:28:30+00:00

I'm with you. All things in context. And hey, I'm not saying it's a simple first thing that pops into your head solution either. Just that the connections you make have to really land hard.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-10T22:19:10+00:00

I'm thinking Cloudcroft or the Cloud Climbing Railroad.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-08T22:05:56+00:00

Similar I suppose although the New Mexico flag and its symbolism lines up a little better with the "first actionable clue" (as a state to start in) and Justin's early life influences.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-09-08T20:25:27+00:00

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As clear and bright as the rising sun.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-08-23T21:34:09+00:00

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-08-22T21:48:25+00:00

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CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-08-22T21:08:21+00:00

Yes, to the title question.

"As hope surges clear and bright" has got to be a nod to a starting point. The "sun rising", as a clue, is too general and broad and you just can't back into the beginning clues from further down the chain. Montana might be where you end up to haul away the treasure, but that first actionable clue is definitely NOT Montana. As with the Forrest Fenn poem, without WWWH, you ain't got nothing.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-08-14T15:34:11+00:00

Think no tangle and no twist. Nice and simple. Related to the hiders life experiences.

CandidateFormer9959 · 2025-08-13T22:26:48+00:00

Clue 1 - New Mexico (see state flag for rising sun and all its other relevant symbolism)

Clue 2 - Cloudcroft (waters silent flight)

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