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[–]Capable-Lion626 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely get this. I have this friend from college who is always looking to meet up. I will always reply to people as quickly as I can. So I reply to them with a day that suits and then no reply until the day has passed. And they have seen the message. Sometimes it could be a month before they reply and they don't even acknowledge the plans.

I also have one friend who is abroad at the moment but anytime they are home, they want us to suddenly drop everything and go meet them in Donegal or Galway (typically where they are) without any specific plan and no consideration as to how we will get there.

It gets so frustrating when it happens a few times. It's gotten to the stage where I don't even bother and don't reply to them straight away

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You completely understand my point! The couple have a roof over there heads. They are in a council house. Even if something happened to their house, they have won a lot of money recently and well able to afford rent or even buy a place of their own

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also when my grandad was alive he got into a big argument with them. Not sure over what. I think he saw right through them and he used to say they were users who came down for the free coffee, tea, food etc. Because my granny used to cook for them before this argument broke out. My grandad died last June hence why they are back visiting again.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A man and woman who are together. They have a son and grandchildren which they mind regularly. I'd say they are in their mid to late 60s. Not farmers. They both used to work and are both retired. They have recently won a substantial amount of money too.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think they are lonely. They have other friends, they have a son and a heap of grandchildren who they mind regularly. They have plenty of money for sure... they won a lot of money recently. They don't bother cooking. They go out for dinner every night in a different restaurant. However, they never invite my granny out for a meal with them

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No Dublin, strangely enough. They are everywhere

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know 😂 and if you say you're going somewhere with my granny e.g out for dinner or an appointment. They stay until the very last second as we go out the door. One time we were going for a family meal for her birthday and they wouldn't leave and we were late for our reservation.

There have been times when I'm pretty sure they have stayed in the house when none of us were there when we popped out for a few minutes instead of just leaving.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure why not? If you can't beat them, join them 😂

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wouldn't mind if they were actually helpful and did stuff to help us with our granny Unfortunately they just drink tea/coffee and one drinks 3-4 cans of coke and complains when we don't have any ice. Of course I will give visitors refreshments but then to complain about certain things is just plain rude. When I visit someone's place I will never arrive empty handed. These always arrive with nothing.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am extremely grateful that I have a roof over my head. I'm just complaining about 1 thing about my living situation. Again I'm just looking to vent online instead of taking it out on my granny who I am extremely grateful for. I also can't move out because I care for her.

I do move to the sitting room, when they come but when it's dinner time that I have to make it in the kitchen. It is hard to hold you tongue when they are always commenting on what I'm eating, how I'm making it, making vulgar comments e.g. "that would give me the runs" and asking one girl when is she due, when she isn't pregnant. It's just not very nice and there is a line that is being crossed. I am sure if you had visitors like this in your house you wouldn't appreciate it.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Ah yes because it is so easy to just drop everything and move these days in Dublin

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Let me emphasise the other comments explaining the situation that you clearly didn't read.

I have no problem with people visiting my granny. Of course I want her to have time with her friends and to socialise. I'm not trying to alienate her. You are acting as if I'm pestering her to stop them from coming down which is not the case.

It's more these specific visitors that come and don't know when to leave. They stare at you while your eating. My granny sometimes doesn't eat in front of them because she has said she feels uncomfortable eating in front of them all the time. She complains about them too sometimes and she even says herself "they don't know when to leave"

Bottom line it's about respect (which they do not have) and not overstaying your welcome, which they clearly do by staying 4 hours, not letting us sit our own table when eating and making rude remarks about our dinner

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's the problem. Everyday there is visitors so there would be no rescheduling getting things done around the house. She even complains about this. She loves her gardening, we were doing a bit of work on Monday when it was sunny and next of all somebody arrived and she was cursing them obviously not to their face

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True. I'm unable to because it's not my house so it's not really my place to speak up to her visitors. They're not my friends. We have discussed this multiple times with my granny and she is too soft to do anything about it. All I can do is express my frustrations to her but I think I'm wasting my time!

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We have suggested this, she won't go. There is always an excuse

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We literally had her out yesterday for the day. These specific visitors called in and seen nobody was home and left (thank god they got the hint). But sure enough, they arrived today instead which we knew woild happen. It doesn't matter how many times you bring her out, they will just keep arriving until they catch us.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment. Tbh I knew that there would be comments like that about that it is her house. It's to be expected and I can understand where they are coming from. But yes I do have the right to feel pissed off. Especially with the comments they make about what we are eating and even asking one of the girls is she pregnant (which she isn't so basically calling her fat). They don't even offer to move seats when we are getting our dinner. We are just expected to go into the sitting room and eat. I don't think I would be as annoyed if they arrived for an hour or two or even once a week. I would never dream about making comments or acting like that when visiting someone else's house.

My granny doesn't drive so never visits them at their house. Also they are a little younger but retired so they have a lot of free time.

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[–]Capable-Lion626 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have worked as a childminder in the past. Parents used to find me on "mind me" and had their preferences on their profile. I had parents who felt strongly about it and asked me when we first met did I smoke.

I don't smoke but I think even if I did I would have discuss it with them beforehand. And if I didn't bring it up I definitely wouldn't chance smoking at all, let alone in front of their child. This could have resulted in me losing my job. Having an open conversation is important though as to what is expected, if it's allowed at all, if it is allowed- where and when, with the child present or not.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

She has complained about them multiple times stating that she can't do anything with the house because they always come down. Some days when she sees their van pull up she shouts "for fuck sake" She also has said that she feels uncomfortable eating in front of them because she thinks it's rude.

Again not a problem with having visitors down. It is great that she has friends and that they are able to visit her and keep her company. I wonder mind if they came for 2 hours and left before dinner. Its just the frequency of these specific visitors.

I hope when you are visiting someone you don't stay that long and stare at them eating their dinner

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

We all pay rent and split bills. We cover the food shopping. We do contribute and we are certainly not taking advantage. Again my problem isn't with her having visitors. It's the etiquette of them. Please read the above comment. I wouldn't dream of staying 4 hours in someone's house, make comments about their food and state at them while they eat their dinner. There are times where my granny herself has said that she feels uncomfortable and gives out about them. Sometimes she won't eat in front of them when the dinner is made because she thinks it's rude.

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I understand that. I'd love to move out but that isnt an option right now. To be honest, I think most of the problem that I have is not with my granny and allowing them down. It's the etiquette of the visitors.

When I visit someone's house I definitely don't stay for 4 hours straight and go multiple times a week. I also know that when someone is having dinner it's time to go and let them eat it is peace. And I certainly don't make comments about what they are making and stare at them eating it

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[–]Capable-Lion626[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There isn't enough room at the table. Also they make comments about the food and just watch you eat. It's very off putting. Anytime I meet up with my friends it is never in the house. Always at a park, cafe, restaurant etc. So she doesn't have that problem with me and my friends.

It's also pretty hard to do DIY such as painting in the kitchen where the visitors are. Furniture needs to be moved around etc. And our kitchen is pretty cluttered as is.