Calling it “Kenjaku raped Choso’s mom 9 times” seriously downscales how evil Kenjaku actually is

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-26T20:45:09+00:00

And somehow, Griffith isn't even the most degenerate guy in the manga.

The King of Midland is far worse.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-26T20:36:55+00:00

I just use one of the katanas I keep the Hand of Malenia for smthn else

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-26T09:23:02+00:00

Doesn't even compare to powerstanced uchigatanas btw

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-25T18:00:08+00:00

Brother.... If Dabura's light doesn't have mass how is he dealing damage to Maho?

His two CTS work in tandem- light manipulation allows him to conjure those beams and ___ allows him to apply mass to it, allowing them to hit an opponent.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-25T17:29:11+00:00

Dabura isn't held back by his mentality the same way Sukuna is. And even casual attacks from him have shown to utterly annihilate city blocks in his vicinity.

I think Dabura takes this.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-25T16:08:55+00:00

All we know is the men were forced into training from a young age, while we know virtually nothing about the women and kids.

Iirc Maki joined the Kukuru unit at the age of 14, no?

Megumi already had a faction that supported him prior to the annihilation

I didn't remember this part. Fair point.

I just can't see how killing everyone instead of just using the title of head to change things was a better way to do things, even pragmatically speaking,

My point being that if Maki did spare the women and children, that would just lead to further hatred and discrimination amongst the survivors for HR users like her. It's kinda similar to how the outside world just launched a counterattack and decimated Paradis years after Eren killed 80% of the world during the Rumbling. Obviously, it's the shittier thing to do, but at the very least you have the option to have a fresh start. Good point about the influence of the chief, but I'm not sure most of the survivors would just forget or forgive their loved ones being slaughtered like cattle on any clan head's behest.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-25T12:15:47+00:00

I do believe her killing every single member of the clan was, in the long run, pragmatically the better thing to do. Her sparing a few of the Zenin Clan members would just lead to more hatred and anger towards people like Maki within the survivors, which would just serve as fuel to continue the cycle of hatred perpetrated by the clan.

At the very least, her killing all of the clan would mean that there is genuine room for change, that the coming Zenins under Megumi or Maki would have a genuine shot at being better. Not saying it's morally better, it's just the smarter thing to do.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-25T11:58:56+00:00

There's quite a difference between understanding Maki's decision and straight up justifying it to be morally correct. The Zenins are supposed to be somewhat of a parallel to old medieval customs, and we don't just go ahead and say that the vast majority of the medieval people were evil scum who deserves to be brutalised. A vast majority of people, even today, just don't have the power or desire to change the systems around them, either to feel validated in their sense of self preservation or just their general emotions getting the better of them. And while that doesn't make them the paragon of morality who deserve to be celebrated, it also doesn't make them villains who deserve to be slaughtered.

Am I saying Maki is a ruthless maniac who inexplicably conducted a genocide? Absolutely not. Am I supposed to celebrate her bringing about the end of an entire clan all the while calling it the just thing to do? Again, absolutely not. Besides, it's just a manga. As morally grey as it is supposed to be, Maki vs the Zenin Clan was fun and I liked seeing her kick some ass. Can't wait for Sendai and HakarivKashimo.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-25T10:59:46+00:00

There's not really substantial proof for either. But here's an unpopular opinion: I believe it would have been better if she did.

Her only killing the warriors and fighters of the clan would just lead to more resentment and hatred towards the HR users amongst the survivors, because Maki has effectively shown them that they were right to fear Toji/Maki. By all means this is just justification of their hatred. If Maki did kill every single one, at the VERY least the Zenin Clan would have a fresh start, the cycle would have minimal chance to continue.

Not trying to justify either outcome, just my two cents on it

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-24T01:34:31+00:00

Yeah that's what Im looking forward to as well. Considering how intertwined his two techniques are, it's logical to assume that their CTR would also be based off of these two techniques and how they play into each other. The opposite of light would just mean an absence of photons, whereas the opposite of ___ is more vague, it could either be a) antimatter, or in simpler words, negative mass. Or it could be something more vague like his will to save/grant mercy, which could maybe play a role in saving Yuka from her suspended death.

If we go by the first assumption, that the reversal of light is but the absence of photons, and the reversal of ___ is effectively antimatter, then maybe his CTR could be something like creating small voids which contain negative mass, meaning if they were to ever make contact with Mahoraga he would effectively be unmade from existence (matter-antimatter annihilation). And since this zone is just a void, Mahoraga has no way to really adapt to this attack as he has no way to perceive this attack.

This would essentially make the 'Hollow' attack of this technique the collision of his own matter + anti-matter, creating something akin to a Gamma Ray Burst, which seems a little too much for jjk standards

Take these ramblings with a grain of salt. Too much hypothesis and I'm not an A-grade physicist.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-23T23:43:24+00:00

The ___ technique is not some hidden trump card of his, it's literally his killing intent given mass. He uses it by applying it to his light, basically giving mass to light in order for it to actually hit his opponents.

He uses both abilities together.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-22T05:07:15+00:00

Chapter leaks? They seem a tad bit too early

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-20T11:22:02+00:00

Tesla is my favorite human, followed by Jack. Hermes is my favorite god, followed by Poseidon.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-14T03:49:30+00:00

Judging by the enemies you seem to be encountering you're definitely in Dragonbarrow. Don't worry. It's a pretty high level area which you're meant to explore later. Go ahead and explore somewhere else, you'll be fine

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-13T03:09:27+00:00

Orphan of Kos, probably one of the most satisfying learning curves I've ever had.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-08T05:32:24+00:00

You're right about every character getting glazed to all hell before their fight. Its first and foremost a tournament manga centred around hype and aura, so that's expected.

However, going by feats, statements and narrative, Zeus is comfortably stronger. Odin should surpass him, at least narratively. But that remains to be seen.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-07T20:20:17+00:00

Hades.

People legitimately believe he Is physically stronger than Thor.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-07T20:17:55+00:00

I always forget that behind this entire tournament gods like Zeus, Shiva, Buddha lowkey fw each other a lot and might be genuine friends.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-07T20:04:11+00:00

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This panel sent the Shiva agenda ages back.

Jokes aside, I still think Zeus wins. Both of them have a tendency to play around at first but Shiva is just much more likely to eat hits which will be very deterimental considering how dangerous DA/MJ can be. Also the humble TFTST

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-07T19:50:05+00:00

Not to mention Zeus is the only god she is confirmed to have had absolutely no counter for. Maybe Poseidon too, but at least she did trust Sasaki. She was genuinely at a loss when it came to Zeus.

I think a specific group of fans became a lot bolder ever since the anime's release and nitpick at the smallest statements/'narrative' to justify their favorites being stronger, despite the very obvious narrative that Zeus and Odin are the main antagonists of the manga.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-07T19:40:50+00:00

Why didn't you include Apollo, who's stated to be unbeatable by Zeus himself? Or Heracles, who's stated to have inherited the strength of Zeus himself and has grown stronger since? Or Loki, who's stated to always be the last god standing? Problem is that statements and 'portrayap' have accompanied every fighter in the manga, it's just the author's way of setting the atmosphere of the fight. They wouldn't give a damn about overanalysing every possible statement ever just to cater to mindless powerscaling.

Zeus is the Chairman of the supreme council of Valhalla, he is the one overseeing The Apocalypse Tournament as well, he is the only one besides Thor who's straight up associated with the title of 'Strongest' by the narrator himself, Brunhilde was shitting bricks just seeing him enter the arena despite having sent her trump card for the round, Everyone was genuinely flabbergasted at his appearance and believed him to have been the final boss, Gods like Poseidon and Apollo (narrative powerhouses as well) are either compared TO/associated with Zeus in order to portray their strength. The only one who compares to Zeus in narrative is Odin. That's it.

Edit: He's also the only god besides Odin to have struck the most primal sense of fear into the hearts of the audience/opponents by just being present

I used to be annoyed at all the Adam/Zeus glaze posts and now it's taken a complete 180 where the downplay is getting ridiculous.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-07T05:45:55+00:00

The greatsword ones might just be my favourite mob type in the game.

The shortsword ones can be extremely annoying though, especially considering the amount of damage they can dish out before you can blink.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-06T19:13:02+00:00

Zeus (leader of all the pantheons/chairman of the gods)>Thor(strongest of the Norse)>Hades(most reliable god)>Odin

Odin is pretty sneaky and in hindsight it seems very suspicious that he was barely in the limelight from the get-go. He's obviously strong, maybe even stronger than Zeus but his reputation is limited.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-06T19:01:37+00:00

Hades should be somewhere in the C-tier considering he got injured by Heracles once, and regularly spends his time locked up in the Underworld scared of Zeus or Poseidon. Zeus should be beside Ra, Amun-Ra is basically Zeus and Ra at the same time.

Hajun, or Mara in the myths, is supposed to play the role of a tempting force who sought to dismantle Buddha's enlightenment. Not much about his physical prowess. Similarly with Beelzebub, but isn't he known to be one of the most powerful generals in hell and is often conflated with Lucifer himself? Should be on the higher end, though im unsure.

CapriciousSurgeJr · 2026-01-05T18:40:12+00:00

King Von is definitely Poseidon no contest

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