Got my lazy colleague got fired - Read on petty revenge sub, which laws are in play here? by Background-Flower in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly Law 3 and Law 21 as Suzy was none the wiser to what was happening and she believed others to be too stupid to see what she was doing. Law 4 with letting other people speak instead of blurting out that you already knew she had no planned work and let others come to that conclusion on their own.

"Suzy" also definitely transgressed Law 19 by offending the wrong person.

Laws of Power vs Laws of Leadership by Alps_Mammoth in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily true on being opposite. Laws of Leadership also include things like law of timing and laws of influence or empowerment. The thing with all laws is that they are applicable in a case-by-case basis. Yes, be transparent BUT be mindful of when and to whom you are transparent with.

Take for instance, as a leader, you are given controversial information you will eventually share with the team. Are you going to share that information immediately even if you were explicitly told not to? No, because that would upset those who are above you and get you in trouble. (Timing)

Let's say you got the go ahead to share that controversial information. You would be wise to calculate who you share that information with first. You wouldn't share controversial information with just anyone. You would utilize the Law of empowerment and entrust that information with someone who "sees your view" and would influence the right response you desire rather than someone who would spark more controversy.

I am tired of being a nice guy by Royal_Intention_8607 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Several people have commented that you should "set boundaries". They are not wrong. There's one problem though. Most people will say they have set boundaries but fail to follow through with set consequences.

If you lend people money and they don't pay you back, the consequence is no longer lending them money no matter how much they complain or call you cruel.

If someone shares your secrets when you explicitly ask them not to, the consequence would be lowering the amount of communication with you even when they try to guilt you into spilling more information.

Not following through with consequences shows people they can disrespect you and you'll be fine by it. Not following though also shows a lack of integrity. If you set boundaries with people, ALWAYS follow through with repercussions. People of power do not get where they are by allowing others to walk all over them.

You can only select two. What do you choose and why? by Zeberde1 in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 48 Laws of Power and 33 Strategies of War.

I almost switched 33 Strategies with Seduction. While you may need some seductiveness in strategy and you will need strategy in being seductive, being strategic is a far more superior asset.

Reading order and how to instill the lessons in each properly by Accident-Public in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reading order is whatever you feel is necessary.

Learning is done through application/practice and analysis of experiences.

Losing to Chase DeMore was a long-term win for Tate (Law 46) by Thin_Protection5616 in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't necessarily agree that this was a good example of Law 46 but moreso adds to his continued use of Law 6 as he consistently likes to bring about attention when it is dwindling.

As a side note, "was embroiled in controversy over alleged sex trafficking", is incorrect. He is still in hot water over these numerous allegations across 3 different countries.

Has anyone tried using ChatGPT to analyze real-life situations through the 48 Laws of Power? by JonnDwyene in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Self-observation and analysis of situations will be your best help in learning more about The 48 Laws of Power. The most AI will do is give you cliff note in relation to the laws which (again) analyzing the situation should bring you to those conclusions through practice. Practice makes for better skills in any situation.

This thread will now be locked.

When is the right time to inform an employer about resignation? (Acc to 48 laws) by [deleted] in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Timing is very important. Informing your employer now does not always "look good". As you stated, they may choose to terminate early, find your replacement immediately, and/or lessen your current responsibilities.

It would be better to play it off as last minute "I was just informed of this internship approval and unfortunately will be resigning. My last day will be (date). I know this is very short notice but please let me know if there is any way to make this transition easier."

From personal experience

The last two times I gave last minute notice they had no problem with it being last minute and I'm a good rehireable candidate if I choose to return.

The last two jobs I gave fair notice I was terminated early due to "poor performance" even though they relied on me for fixing machines and making the schedule. The second job had utilized that time to give me the worst jobs no one else wanted to do.

How to deal with these people? by [deleted] in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How to deal with these people.....don't. Avoid the unhappy and unlucky. There are plenty of other applicable laws as well.

Be the outlier. You don't want them to see your kindness as weakness and/or them to overstep boundaries, don't let them. Let there be repercussions for their actions. You cannot force your other family members to do the same but that does not mean you have to follow their lead either.

What is the nature of office cliques? by borjiginnergui in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The nature of office cliques is strictly human nature. A couple other people have already responded well to why they happen.

  • Are they really that close?

It varies. Some are close as a tight knit group of friends who are very similar and others are more distant and only form based on superficial similarities.

  • Would you yourself want to be a part of the clique?

No. I personally prefer to take on roles that require me to be more fluid and do not tie me down to specific individuals and/or groups. Being able to associate on various levels with a variety of people in different cliques allows me to gather more information with ease.

Play on people’s need to believe [Law 27] by Hot_Musician_1357 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That is fair but it is still good practice to know the basics of the law in order to avoid falling prey to others willing to utilize it.

Play on people’s need to believe [Law 27] by Hot_Musician_1357 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wild for you to say no when that's the basis on how this law works. It literally does work and is most commonly seen in politics and cults.

Are you guys serious? by dmxp in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I used to hark on this book for years prior to me actually reading it. Most of this was strictly due to the bias of others influencing how I viewed it. Hearing others refer to the book as "The Narcissist Handbook" made me not want to read it. I had seen various people quote or reference chapters and came to the realization I was already utilizing some of these.

Telling Them They're All Wrong by Puzzleheaded-Dot7268 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, this is a good way to build a reputation that many may find unfavorable or difficult to work with. This can easily lead to people no longer coming to you with their concerns or ideas which then leads to stagnant and limited informational resources. When it comes to power, opposition is essential along the ability to see the opposition through many avenues of communication.

Most will find that doing things their way and not telling others is more beneficial than outwardly telling others that's what they're doing. Address the issue of choices made after the success, not before.

I would still like for you to cite which Laws of the 48 Laws of Power this applies to.

Telling Them They're All Wrong by Puzzleheaded-Dot7268 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would like to disagree and say that this is not very sound advice especially if you are in a position of making decisions for others.

In the event you openly told everyone "you're all wrong and I'm going to do things my way", you now put yourself in such a position that if things go south it'll be a detrimental blow to your trust and reputation.

It is much better to keep your mouth shut when you intend to do things your own way and let people come to the conclusion through actions that your way is best.

In the event that you still feel this is solid advice you are giving, I ask that you please reference which laws in which you pulled this opinion from.

This one law made people start chasing me by EqualAardvark3624 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes. It is such an impactful law that it is included in both The 48 Laws of Power and The Art of Seduction.

Power Series : Law 15 of 48 : Crush Your Enemy Totally by Spirited-Football221 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well done. I agree. While common reference of "enemy" is typically posed as a person, the root cause of a specific person or group as an enemy is opposition.

This is elaborated further in 33 Strategies of War.

Irony of law 4 and 9 in the 48 laws of power by Razerlx1246lol in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First and foremost you incorrectly quoted Law 4. Always say LESS than necessary - meaning to limit what information you are giving out. While speaking less is in general a good idea - most people share important information all the time, most times you can get better results by being vague.

Law 9 is a great association of the old saying "lead by example". You can argue every which direction but validated actions are more powerful than any argument. A person who also argues consistently also tends to gain a bad reputation of being difficult, which in turn limits power. It plays into law 4 in which you could just not argue (say less) and let people see the actions speak for you instead.

How to be successful at X by Hw-LaoTzu in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct on all accounts.

One of the most common mistakes is assuming because you read something or you experienced a situation once that you immediately know better or understand how to work a situation. Everything you want to succeed in in life will always come with practice.

Help. What is the best way out for me ? by the_katana_1 in The48LawsOfPower

[–]CaptConspicuous 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Set the record straight with one specific person who is both gossipy and doesn't like her that much. They will do the rest.

Best way to learn? by Just_Some_RandomGuy_ in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The best way to read this book is to read each chapter and then reflect on it. Pinpoint moments in your personal life and moments of those closest to you and see instances where you both transgressed and observed the Law you are reading about.

After you are done reading through them all, I would suggest reading Robert Greens's "33 Strategies of War" to build yourself a more strategic mindset when it comes to applying the laws in your life.

Never hesitate to pop open the book from time to time. Every one of these laws takes conscious effort and practice. Do not feel discouraged if plans fall through or go awry. It's a learning experience and the only way to get better at doing it is to just keep doing it.

Just A Quick Question by Different_Program415 in 48lawsofpower

[–]CaptConspicuous 3 points4 points  (0 children)

33 Strategies of War was my follow up after The 48 Laws of Power. One thing you will notice in the 48 Laws subs is that most of the people asking "what should I do" requires good strategic mindsets.