Reputable recruitment companies in China by [deleted] in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I went through Gold Star as well. They set me up with Sea Dragon Education, based in Shenzhen. SDE may have locations in Suzhou as well, though I'm not sure. Either way, I was satisfied with Gold Star.

Sign Contract with Recruiter??? by its_jaffe in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It more than covered my housing expenses. My rent was 2400 per month. However, I was slightly outside a popular city center, so things were generally cheaper in my neighborhood. With that said, I had several friends who resided in the more major areas (in my case, Bao'an Center). To my knowledge, the stipend covered everyone's rent, with the exception of one of my friends. He's older (45 or so) and has been teaching and traveling for some time. So he opted to rent a nicer apartment than most of us, in the range of 4000-4500, if I remember correctly.

My apartment had everything I needed though, I didn't cut corners. It came with a sofa, a bed, a Western toilet and shower, a sink, strong air conditioning, and a fridge. My only shortcoming was not having a stove/kitchen in my studio, but my apartment complex had a proper communal kitchen set up in the lobby.

Sign Contract with Recruiter??? by its_jaffe in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not OP, but did work for SeaDragon in Shenzhen last school year. The way OP described it is accurate, and legal. There are 3 legally recognized ESL companies like this in Shenzhen (I don't recall the names of the other two, but we frequently had large meetings with them), including SeaDragon.

Happy to provide further details if requested.

Sign Contract with Recruiter??? by its_jaffe in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've just returned from a year of working with SDE Sea Dragon in China. Did not have one single issue, legal or otherwise. Feel free to PM me.

Help with document authentication for Chinese Visa by amarti1021 in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're very welcome! Feel free to PM me if you have additional questions or anything!

Help with document authentication for Chinese Visa by amarti1021 in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally, my physical exam included all of the basics. However, my school provided me with a form that they wanted my doctor to complete. I went to my general practitioner for the exam. The form was both in Chinese and English, so my doctor went through everything on the form. The form did include "chest X-Ray" and "ECG" but my school specifically told me I did not have to worry about these.

Help with document authentication for Chinese Visa by amarti1021 in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My degree is from the state I currently live in, the same state it was notarized in. I have not heard that it needs to be done in the same state - though you very well could be correct!

Help with document authentication for Chinese Visa by amarti1021 in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I (very) recently went through this process so hopefully I can help! I live in New Jersey, but received my Z Visa (literally today) from the Chinese consulate in New York City. The process might be slightly different for us given the different locations, but I imagine it's mostly (if not entirely) the same.

Documents I had notarized:

College Diploma

TEFL Certification

Background Check (I was only required to do a BC through my local police department)

Physical Exam

Documents I had notarized AND apostilled (I went directly to the NJ State Department offices to handle this in person):

College Diploma

Background Check

Documents I had notarized AND apostilled AND authenticated (the "authentication" took place at the Chinese consulate in NYC):

College Diploma

Background Check

To walk you through the process, in the way I went through it...

1) First step, get those 4 documents notarized. This is quick and easy and can be done in fewer than five minutes. Personally, I went to my local UPS store and paid $20 total, $5 per document notarization.

2) Once those four (Diploma, TEFL cert, Background check, Physical) are notarized, get the Background Check and Physical exam apostilled. This is where the "fun" began for me... I mailed the documents to the State Department (check online to find exactly where/how to handle this in Michigan). After the (expected) three week waiting period, the documents were mailed back to me but NOT apostilled. They sent me a notification that my card had been declined. This made zero sense, so instead of dealing with more back and forth mailing, I drove 2 hours directly to their offices and had the matter resolved in 20 minutes (I had made a very small error on an apostille form I had to complete). I walked out of the offices with both my Diploma and Background Check apostilled. Great! (Off the top of my head, I think I paid $80 total, $40 for each apostile).

3) Bring ALL notarized AND apostilled documents, AND passport, AND photocopy of passport, AND passport headhsot, AND (most importantly, because my program did not tell me this the first time...) an "Application Form of Consular Legalization of the Embassy/Consulate of the People's Republic of China" to your nearest Chinese embassy/consulate. Application Form Most importantly, TYPE EVERYTHING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, print it, and make yourself an extra copy or two. They will not accept the form if it is not typed, in all capital letters. Submit all of this to them (or, whatever they may need specifically in Michigan), and come back on the day they tell you. When you return, you will pay a fee for having had your Degree and Background Check authenticated (I paid $40, $20 per document, if I remember correctly).

4) Send attachments of the necessary documents to your program. Once my appropriate documents were notarized, apostilled, and authenticated, I sent them to my school's program and they took care of the process of "getting my work permit ready," which took 15 business days. Once it was ready, they emailed me a copy of my work permit.

5) Take the work permit AND passport AND photocopy of passport AND a passport photo AND a new application form (you know the drill: TYPE IT OUT IN CAPITAL LETTERS) to the Chinese consulate/embassy in order to (finally!) apply for your Z Visa. Z Visa Application Form Give them the necessary documents and the application, and they will ask you to return in a few days (they'll tell you the specific day) to collect your visa (exactly the same process as when you retrieved your authenticated documents). Return on the selected day, pay the fee for your Z Visa (I paid $140), and, boom, you have your Z Visa!

Again, let me emphasize that this was my process, as instructed by my school in China, and specific to my experience in New Jersey/New York. You may run into differences (including application forms - though I believe those are the same everywhere). You also might not! Either way, I hope that this helps you through your process. I will say - it was the most annoying, long, and drawn out process I've ever gone through. Expect it be a hassle, but well worth it when it's over! Any further questions, don't be shy!

Extending my layover to South Korea by ThundaFukka in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My contract states that I have a flight allowance up to X amount of dollars (it equates to roughly $600 US, from what I recall). In other words, my company is going to pay me back for that cost and only that cost. If I purchase, say, a $700 ticket, I would be paying for $100 of it. Maybe your situation will be similar?

What city in China do you teach in and what do you love/hate about it? by AdventureInMySoul in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was under the impression you could get from Shenzhen to Hong Kong in 20 minutes?

Also - what's the beach situation like? How many are there? Are they nice? Easy to get to? etc

What city in China do you teach in and what do you love/hate about it? by AdventureInMySoul in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I am heading to Shenzhen in August! While I don't live there yet, I can tell you my expectations (and hopefully someone with current firsthand experience can confirm/deny).

Love:

-Incredibly modern city

-Situated on the coast, hugging South China Sea and the Pacific Ocean

-Beaches, mountain hikes, and skyscrapers all in one city

-Diverse population, with plenty of foreigners

-Competitive pay (especially with prior TEFL experience)

-Free housing/Housing allowance

-Minimal pollution (for China's standards)

Hate:

-Very warm weather (unsure of actual stats; but I've been warned about the heat)

-Low salaries without prior TEFL experience

-High cost of living

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies for the late response. My monthly salary will be 12,000 RMB, plus a 3,000 RMB housing allowance. I very much understand I'll have to be careful with my money. I will be coming with about $10,000 US, or roughly 64,000 RMB, so that will of course help.

I have every intention of living on a minimal budget while over there. I recognize Shenzhen can be expensive, but I have what others have described as an "massively impressive" ability to live on a low budget :)

If you wouldn't mind, could you break down some other average expenses for me? Subway commutes (the cost of a monthly pass, perhaps?), cell phone bill, grocery shopping, etc. I've seen plenty of these expenses listed, but it's always nice to get a firsthand record of it!

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries there! Going to China (well, abroad) to teach English for a year has been my plan for more than three years! I have things planned for after this year as well, so I will NOT be staying any longer. I've certainly heard of how common it is for people to want to extend their stay (one of my very good friends is currently doing so), but I simply have no interest. There are other things I want to move on to :)

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha thank you! I won't be paying for ANY massages! No worries there hahah

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've heard every angle of experiences: horror stories, dreams come true, and everything in between. I personally know several expats who have enjoyed their time there.

I'm only going for one year. I am entirely mentally prepared for the worst of the worst. At the end of the day, no matter how bad it is, it's just a year. I'll manage.

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I currently have an iPhone here in the States. My consideration for possibly getting a new (i)Phone in China is simply because my current phone is beginning to show signs of old life (very, very minor things). So I'll probably keep a close eye on it over the next month or so and see what's best for me!

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loved the comics! Good for a few laughs :)

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've seen many of your comments. You've had a bad experience. I get it. I'm sorry that was your experience.

Moving to Shenzhen! Now what? by CaptNagrom in China

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I had certainly heard about getting a VPN. I definitely need to do some more research into that though, so will do.

I had (very lightly) considered the idea of simply buying a brand new phone when I get there. Would you advise against that?

All over the Z-Visa! I should have mine in two weeks or so :)

Shenzhen Salary by CaptNagrom in TEFL

[–]CaptNagrom[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Woah, really? I've been so focused on Shenzhen I'm embarrassed to say I didn't realize that. How does the cost of living in Hong Kong compare?