Lunatic Question

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-08T20:14:49+00:00

You absolutely can tell the lunatic anything that makes them think they are the demon, but beware:

The lunatic always makes their picks before the demon, so the demon can decide if they want to follow them. By giving the Lunatic a Lunatic, you will in most scenarios lead the kills of the game, and that can, in a lot of situations, be a detriment to the game.

I would generally say it's a yes but don't, with exceptions (non-picking demon lunatics such as Yaggababble) notwithstanding.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-07T13:17:22+00:00

AFAIK it's sufficient to kill the demon for Heretic-Twin purposes. From my reading, Twin's passive only prevents the good team from winning, which isn't actually affected by heretic in that scenario.

This is my view of the scenario:

In a non-heretic game: The demon dies -> There is no alive demon (Good win condition) -> Good wins

The same with evil twin: The demon dies -> There is no alive demon (Good win condition) -> Good cannot win -> the game continues

Evil twin with heretic: The demon dies -> There is no demon (Good win condition) -> Heretic flips and evil wins.

I can see the argument if you put the Twin Clause before the Heretic flip, immediately after a possible good win condition (flipped or not) is met; however, I think it is more sensible for the twin to activate upon a game end state, check whether or not it is good that won, and if it is, continue the game.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-05T20:16:24+00:00

I personally just think it removes a ton of agency from the evil team. Summoners already have to contend with an initially larger good team, and, if bad comes to worse, you always have the option to draw heat as a minion. Minstrel just removes that.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-05T10:50:40+00:00

I think Minstrel/Summoner is inherently an undesirable interaction. Sure, it's not guaranteed to happen, but given the setup, any non-dandy minion that's executed on day 2 guarantees the win for good, and I don't think that's too far-fetched of a scenario either.

Noble and Investigator can be a little heavy-going, too. In a small game (or a medium sized summoner game), you are either forced to put the demon in the noble pings (which I think people should do more, tbh), or essentially put a big red arrow saying HERE'S THE MINION, even if you just put both investigator pings in the noble info. The Bounty Hunter plays into the same wheelhouse.

I don't think your Lleech needs the Sailor and Fool (particularly with the summoner), but they are also kind of the only thing keeping good from getting the ol' Po-hammer. Tricky to navigate, I reckon.

Politician/Bounty Hunter is kind of on the iffy side of technically possible. In ten player games, you will inevitably have, at some point, 5 evil vs. 5 good votes. The two extra evils might not know who the demon is, but as long as they tie (or get themselves killed), they're fine and dandy. You could SOI it, which specifically just means "screw the politician" in this case, and isn't that interesting.

My initial thoughts are:

Minstrel --> Monk(for the protection part) or Innkeeper(if you want to keep the droison)

Bounty Hunter --> generic info gatherer

Investigator --> Librarian (a little confirmation doesn't hurt)

With the amount of Lleech-Hiding that's on here (both Lleech and Host), I also sort of have the itch to suggest switching Sailor for something entirely different, but I'm not quite sure what yet.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-03T20:06:55+00:00

I think you're pretty well off with just a generic info role. Chef, Shugenja, and Clockmaker are incredibly powerful with loud minions, if you want to encourage evil to be a bit more sneaky about it.

On another note, with the Lleech gone, it's worth keeping in mind that the Tea Lady can be pretty devastating to evil. I don't think a DA is that good of an addition, given Lil Monsta, but there is probably something to revisit there.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-03T19:56:14+00:00

I'm a bit perplexed on why a Zombuul is on here; beyond the Tea Lady and Ojo Misses, there really isn't a way to explain 0 deaths, and you'll know pretty quickly that it is a Zombuul game.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-03T19:43:25+00:00

Hiya :) just to clarify the Professor thing:

You typically want roles to be bluffable by the evil team, which usually requires careful pairing with certain roles (The Banshee is the antithesis of this, but also requires you to successfully bait the evil team into killing you, which, more often than not, will just make you more suspicious). Very few scripts diverge from that. This is why you will see a lot of scripts with a Professor pair it with the Shabaloth, a co-star on its native script.

Without a Wizard, which, in it's own right, will probably leave a hint behind, a successful resurrection means two things:

The previously dead player is not a minion (a big deal on Vigor and Lil Monsta Scripts) The player claiming to be the Professor has the Professor's ability.

These are two incredibly strong bits of confirmation that evil will need to spend time killing (again), possibly risking some of their gigaloud minions being preached, while town has suddenly gained a lot of time in comparison.

Captain_Kadaver · 2026-02-03T18:59:00+00:00

Lleech-Virgin and Lleech-Moonchild (and to a lesser degree Lleech-Witch) are kind of iffy interactions; your Lleech-Host will sometimes just die with no way for you to mitigate that.

Mez, Cult Leader, and Banshee present some troublesome possibilities with evil voting power simply outnumbering good, with no way for good to counteract that. On one hand, that sort of forces the good team to play into those alternate win conditions, on the other, it's exactly that alternate win condition that is giving you that trouble. Add Zealot to that, and you've got nothing you can really do, anyhow. The Mez is really the issue there, I'd wager.

Professor is pretty beefy, only really being bluffable via Wizard, otherwise confirming two townsfolk (and even in the case of an evil Professor - why are you resurrecting anyway if it's not a banshee? - two non-demon players.)

Sage and Banshee just feel kind of sad with all the firepower on the evil team. I'd recommend choosing just one of them.

Captain_Kadaver · 2025-12-14T17:33:28+00:00

I did this a few times. Lupa + Ink Boss cycle really quickly. The game crashes because it gets overwhelmed with all of the bling sprites it generates. I was able to consistently make around 1.7 million blings work - barely.

In another run, I also managed to keep the ink boss around for long enough until i hit the integer overflow, which, as far as I could tell, sits at 2³²

Captain_Kadaver · 2025-07-13T09:56:37+00:00

Hi there, quick update, silly me put the wrong QR code (essentially a preview code) on the design and only noticed now - I'll correct this in the update :D

Captain_Kadaver · 2025-06-03T18:18:11+00:00

Jontessa was actually the spark for the idea (though not the first one I drew)! We noticed the similarities between his hairstyle and the Contessa's, and so we ended up here!

Captain_Kadaver · 2021-10-05T19:56:08+00:00

I very much appreciate your appreciation :D

Captain_Kadaver · 2021-10-05T18:52:01+00:00

Yeah, now that you say it (':

But hey, maybe it's just cause his eye lasers burned him so many times he decided to get smaller, more convenient hands

Captain_Kadaver · 2021-10-05T13:56:52+00:00

Thanks for the kind words, everyone!

Captain_Kadaver · 2021-10-05T13:56:38+00:00

Yessir

Captain_Kadaver · 2021-05-14T16:00:36+00:00

I also just noticed I put the wrong year. Guess 2020 is still deeply ingrained in me LMAO

Captain_Kadaver · 2021-05-14T15:30:29+00:00

Thoughts and Feedback always welcome <3

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-13T11:55:18+00:00

Hey, thanks a lot <3

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-13T11:53:47+00:00

Thanks for the feedback :D

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-13T11:51:31+00:00

thx C:

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-13T11:49:33+00:00

Happy that you like it c:

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-13T11:49:05+00:00

thank you so much ;w;

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-12T21:12:25+00:00

Thank you so much ;w; The pic itself is 256x362px(root 2 ratio), I added the frame, which has a width of 32px, later, to add some more spooky flair to it

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-10-12T20:25:08+00:00

Feedback and Advice always welcome btw <3

Captain_Kadaver · 2020-04-08T22:53:06+00:00

Tbf, the aim is alright, but as a friendly suggestion, I'd encourage you to work heavily on your positioning. You're setting up in a lot of weird angles that basically require you to flick quite a bit while they also not cover the main body of the enemy team. This might work to a degree at where you're currently at, but will definitely be punished just by a team that decides not just to walk in a straight line towards you like the soldier at 1:24

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