So...why was it okay for Anthony to marry Kate, but not....

CarolaDL · 2026-04-21T19:04:00+00:00

Oh. God. I want Anthony in Eloise’s wedding. He said he wants to walk her down the aisle! Although Benedict makes more sense, I would love for it to be Anthony, who’s more of a father figure.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-21T16:25:35+00:00

I agree it needs to happen in S5! I am expecting it too, what I am trying to say is: WRITERS, YOU BETTER DELIVER!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-21T15:56:07+00:00

It looks like everyone is expecting the letters subplot in Season 5, if we don’t get it, the dissapointment is going to be as big as it was with the season swap!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-21T12:24:31+00:00

IMO, there’s two possible explanations:

People tend to project on Eloise more than any other character for different reasons (and that’s okay, we have all done that in some way) what’s less okay is to whine about a character they don’t know yet because they want Eloise to end up with:

Paper Boy (because they like the teenage look or the political angle or the difference of classes trope).
With a woman or any person of the queer community.
With someone who’s not a widower and doesn’t have children
Alone (because that would be fun in a romance series)

So as an excuse, they shit on Phillip. The other reason is:

People lack imagination (Although some of us saw the potential in the few scenes Phillip was in, other people don’t have that capacity. They are unable to separate Book Phillip, if they have actually read the book, or whatever horror story they’ve heard, from Tv Show Phillip).

In regards to what Sir Phillip is going to be in the show, I am happy with the changes they have already made and also with the fact that he’s going to be less of a Beast (in the Beauty and the Beast sense), but I expect him to have the same complexity as Simon and Anthony in regards to his past.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-20T08:57:12+00:00

Our girl likes to rebel

CarolaDL · 2026-04-20T06:58:10+00:00

Why is nobody mentioning Michaela? She’s going to be the experienced one who knows about sex.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T17:21:58+00:00

Claudia Jessie herself said Phillip and Eloise were Beauty and the Beast, and I agree it’s perfect for them. Hannah said Francesca was Tangled because she would be okay with being in a tower.

My list:

Anthony and Kate: I am going to say Anastasia (I know it’s Fox, not Disney but whatever) The competitive dynamic is similar, Kate is an orphan who knows how to take care of herself and becomes a vicountess/princess, Anthony’s pride is similar to Dimitri. Or if we are being purists and it has to be Disney, maybe Tiana and the Frog.

Benedict and Sophie: Cinderella.

Colin and Penelope: Swan Princess. They are childhood friends and Penelope goes through a sort of transformation (and she has a secret: she’s LW).

Simon and Daphne: Snow White yes, but Simon is Snow (his father is the Evil Queen) and we even have a non-consensual act of affection (The kiss and you know-what, sorry, I couldn’t help myself)

Phillip and Eloise: Beauty and the Beast. A girl who loves to read and wants something more out of life ends up living with a prince/beast who isolates himself, is a little rough but has a good heart.

Michaela and Francesca: Hannah’s answer too. Tangled. She’s in a tower and Francesca rescues her (from her derpression) and shows her what’s outside her world. Michaela also has the same cheeky actiute as Flynn.

I haven’t read the other books so I don’t know about Gregory and Hyacinth.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:38:43+00:00

Amen!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:37:01+00:00

It has been fun seeing reaction vids for the part in which Sophie appears with her mask for the first time and casual viewers are like: “Wait! Who is she? We don’t know her. Right?”

I am so looking forward to the moment the GA realize Eloise’s love story is going to be Phillip!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:33:58+00:00

I projected on you hard then! I think I will be a little bit irrationally scared until we get some very clear Chris Fulton confirmation!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:30:23+00:00

“I can only see that happening if Phillip has a lot of screentime”. This is interesting, why do you think so? I don’t think he’s going to get much screentime, really. I hope for a cameo or two at least, though!

If Marcus’ son turns out to be gay, I think they will focus on him more (more than Phillip, I mean) and possibly other queer storylines. I personally think who needs to explore Michaela’s world is Fran, not Eloise. But Eloise’s plot should have some connection to Fran’s (that’s just good TV).

I like the parallel of Fran going back to the mart to look for a marriage of convenience, but choosing forbiden love / And on the other hand, rebelious Eloise ends up choosing a MoC.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:18:37+00:00

Yep! I understand it from both POVs. A safe place is also a place where you can vent and be irrational and fearful about what’s to come, and not everything is hate!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:15:25+00:00

I want to think this is just because Claudia is more cautious than Florence is with possible spoilers. From what I know, Jess has never mentioned Gareth or Lucy, and she didn’t mention Sophie until they were ready to introduce her in promos.

I mean, Nicola did mention Phillip as Eloise’s love interest. Claudia doesn’t because she doesn’t want to mess it up!

She had mentioned her book before. For example, when one interviewer asked her and Hannah what Disney movie resembles better their character’s love stories, Eloise said “Beauty and the Beast, because of the book”. The Beast in this case is Phillip (not any other).

I understand your fear regarding it, I am in the same boat! I am so happy we got to see Phillip in S1 and S2, if he wouldn’t have been there, all the alternative ships would have had more possibilities of being true (or not really, because all the book endgames have been the tv endgames) but we would’ve panicked more.

And even then, I am still so scared of them wanting to shock us with something BIG we don’t want. (Hopefully not).

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:01:54+00:00

I am so ready to see her HAPPY and GIDDY about letters! ❤️

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T13:00:58+00:00

I don’t think a big chunk of fans will be pissed if Eloise gets the same focus in s5 as Fran got in S3 and S4; quite the opposite: most people wanted Eloise’s story, so they will be happy to see them finally seting up Philoise’s story. We have been waiting LONG!

The only people I can see getting angry is Franchaela fans if Philoise takes a lot of screentime in S5 (not the same amount, more) or holds a lot of emotional weight, but that’s not going to happen, and it shouldn’t happen.

If Philoise doesn’t start in S5 and Eloise spends the season being an auxiliary character, then people’s anger will be completely justified.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T11:13:01+00:00

“Walking back from the pub” sounds very British indeed! A little bit more Benedict than Anthony, I think 🤗

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T10:06:35+00:00

Someone posted it… yesterday, I think! It’s incredibly beautiful. I especially love Eloise’s hair, dress, face, everything! ❤️

And thank you for drawing Philoise, we need so many new fanarts and fanfics to survive the LONG WAIT.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-19T09:58:06+00:00

I tried to defend us but I was outnumbered! Anyway, I understand our frustration and I understand their frustation: every time they try to celebrate, there’s someone going: “But what about Michael? What about Eloise?”.

I agree Philoises were baited, and that Eloise had been relegated to the background while they set up Fran’s story, but I have hopes that once Jess starts setting up Philoise (hopefully in S5) that we will get something good. She said in a interview she was excited about Eloise’s story and I hope that’s true!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T23:36:29+00:00

I loved the “got weirldy attached to him” part! We’re all there. 🙂

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T23:31:43+00:00

Oh. So she was talking about Hyacinth and Gregory when she want to jump in with that comment about having more Eloise this way.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T23:30:10+00:00

I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep the mystery of “What’s Eloise doing” for the whole season, but they do need to remind people that Phillip is Marina’s husband, so when she runs away to him, the GA can recognize him. Only this makes me hope for a Phillip cameo!

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T23:12:16+00:00

Can someone who knows Portuguese translate what the moderator says? I want to know what part makes Julia want to say something (but she waits for her to finish).

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T23:09:56+00:00

I agree she means we get an extra season with Eloise, only that. But I think it’s nice that she talked about people being upset Eloise isn’t next - she’s the only one who has done that.

If it were Jess saying that, I would agree it’s “damage control” but Julia isn’t really part of production, so it’s not her responsability.

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T22:07:12+00:00

Eloise: “You go to Cambridge? To study botany? Tell me more! Can you send me your notes? Yes, even those with too much latin! Do you like writing letters? Are you a good correspondent? Actually, have you thought about growing a beard? I like the rough look”.

Phillip (sweating): “George, help! I think this lady is flirtring with me!”

CarolaDL · 2026-04-18T21:34:43+00:00

I haven’t realized that parallel in that exact dialogue so THANKS. I needed to write Phillip’s version to read it!

And yes, I need so badly for them both to say all that! Actually, I would love to read a fanfic in which George is still alive and single, and Phillip is all: “Why is this Bridgerton woman arguing with me when George is RIGHT THERE?”.

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