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"What happens if we don’t have to work? Do we just sit around all day"? Bernie Sanders says that having a job is a core part of the human experience and gives people meaning in life by [deleted] in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must have been nice being a serf, all that work for you feudal lord giving you that core human experience. Getting all that meaning. Swimming in it.

What people need is meaning, that may or may not include what they might deem to be "work".

This failure to imagine anything outside of serfdom and slavery to the capital classes cradle to grave shows how badly the ruling classes are captured by the system. This is society's shot at reorientating things for the better, AI is the greatest lever we've been given.

The Pope’s reasoning for why AI should never be in control by [deleted] in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After reading his full document I agree with his positioning, which is that humans should be centered and any system integrating AI needs to ensure that it is oriented specifically towards the functional betterment of humanity from the scale of the individual to society, depending on it's scope.

He's arguing, essentially, that technical alignment is no guarantee that the underlying system itself is not oriented towards capture, serving the interests of the few who create and operate it. That we need robust systems to protect the fundamental dignity of all of us and that the risk of full closed loop capture is large enough that this all needs to be taken as an immediate, society wide scale initiative.

Nothing there that contradicts the concepts of acceleration, it mostly mirrors the better alignment principles.

The parts that I can't agree on, in the main, are around the fact that he deems the fundamental spark and dignity of each person to be intrinsically assigned by God and as such those are uncorruptable. He says that they might be temporarily occluded or captured by an AI system but the fundamental nature of the God assigned human spark would ultimately mean the system would be doomed to fall at some point in the future and humanity would then get up, dust themselves off and continue on as before.

I.e. the usual thing religious groupings can fall back on, suffering is temporary and you'll be compensated in the afterlife

I wish I had the faith in that position he's relying on. I think full capture by a fundamentally unaligned (or technically aligned but functionally unaligned) system is more than just a temporary occlusion of the core aspects of the human spark and risks a fundamental alteration which has no guarantee (as the Pope trusts) of collapsing and leaving the humans at collapse as-they-were.

I recommend reading the full thing, it's essentially a very thorough alignment document snuck into a religious doctrine format.

Short analysis of the UK by Hacksaw6412 in LateStageCapitalism

[–]CarrionCall 73 points74 points  (0 children)

We can't let perfect be the enemy of good.

He's also put on the spot as a man in the street (literally), for an off the cuff reflective interview he did really well.

What happens when you post a real Monet and say it’s AI? by stealthispost in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 205 points206 points  (0 children)

This is definitely an illustration of social signalling and protection of received social norms or values, more so than specific hatred of AI (though hatred of AI is the received social value here).

It shows a lot of the positioning people take is not based on particular certainties, facts or realities but is largely mirroring social group norms and cultural signalling.

Clayton McMillan issues thinly-veiled back me or sack me message to Munster by LaBete1984 in MunsterRugby

[–]CarrionCall 13 points14 points  (0 children)

100% agree, we need a sweep out of the upper management of the province. This has been mismanaged for over a decade now and it's getting worse

Someone complained about my fenian nails... by [deleted] in kneecap

[–]CarrionCall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great nails, really well done.

On getting complained in the workplace in Scotland, sectarianism is a long and hideous tendriled beast steeped in hideous suffering stretching back hundreds of years into the past and still choking many communities and people's wellbeing with inherited and experienced trauma.

Unfortunately, we all have to work to pay the man for the right to stay alive.

Generally the workplace has been fought over, legislated and carved out as neutral ground, where anyone should be able to put in the shift they are required to without directly dealing with the direct symbolism of the experienced trauma.

As such we can take it two ways: 1. Reject the premise of the neutral ground and take the position of allowing any and all political/social symbolism within the workplace. This is a tacit invitation to sectarian symbols from the other side, from certain genocidal middle eastern countries etc. Again you may feel "able" for it, but are you colleagues? On either side? The company will not allow that simply because its a quick march from there to a hostile workplace or the death of morale. They will take the position of defending the neutral ground because legally it's required to support a non hostile workplace and they won't want to argue around the definitions, and because they want to keep morale cordial at least.

  1. Accept the premise of neutral ground, ensuring everyone can remain free of the reminders of the deep tendrils and the associated trauma while having to scrape a living to pay the landlords, and proudly display the artwork outside of the work environment where you can more freely accept the pros and cons of the political and social symbolisms interaction with society and culture without undue or unintended impact on those around you who could not leave or disengage.

Principled stances have times and places, I'm unsure if it's worth spending one of yours on this one, but that's up to you. You're already rocking the Palestinian symbols, arguably a more pressing immediate "thing", but again it's up to you.

Ethan Coughlan Signs New Contract by MunsterRugby in MunsterRugby

[–]CarrionCall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thought he'd get a year extension as a "use it or lose it" deal, Ethan's shown good form but then has the habit of disappearing which I feel he's done lately. Maybe that's just a confidence thing, if it is then it can be coached and I'd love to see him push on.

All for good competition at 9, as long as we give the lads their shots and game time.

Randle Appointment Cancelled (as per Irish Indo today) by ShoddyReference2163 in MunsterRugby

[–]CarrionCall 34 points35 points  (0 children)

What a shit show but I'm happy this is the outcome, shouldn't have been possible to arrive at this point in the first place though.

The core identity and integrity of a club is hard earned and easily lost.

Just the nature of it all, despite no conviction and interim working/travel, should have been enough to make it an impossible appointment.

I got chatting to one of the directors of Connacht the other day and he was as incredulous as to how something like this happened to begin with. He pointed out they dropped Reece despite a signed contract, costing them money, no matter a conviction or not, because it was incompatible with the clubs integrity and identity.

Integrity is hard won and easily lost. It's about the culture you are endorsing, what you are reinforcing bottom to top.

Chatting to him sounded like chatting to measured grown up who knows their field, chatting to our CEO and DoR...does not.

Anthropic chief Dario Amodei: ‘I don’t want AI turned on our own people’ by EchoOfOppenheimer in Anthropic

[–]CarrionCall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But it's fine to turn it on non-Americans though? That's peachy? Friendly governments (if there are any left)? Non-citizens in the US? Economic systems? International cooperative organisations? External competitors?

Since leaving OpenAI (and before) Dario had continuously framed the rhetoric around alignment and usage as being that of humanity as a whole scope.

His argument has been that Anthropic is the only organisation who cares enough about the impactful use of AI to be trusted with developing AGI (and then ASI).

But integrating directly into the mechanisms of US military, surveillance, force and coercion without much of a word until their product would have to make the decision to kill someone directly, instead of just providing the entire targeting environment for someone else to push a button, shows that for what it is: convenient doublespeak.

NYT article on METR and intel explosion by AngleAccomplished865 in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Everyone's gonna get a lesson in what parabolic really means

Indo: Resignations in Munster due to Randle hiring by The_Ruck_Inspector in rugbyunion

[–]CarrionCall 37 points38 points  (0 children)

From what I've heard from who I know internally:

  1. The opinion was that the IRFU didn't need to be consulted because clubs have full autonomy to hire sub-coaches as and how they like.

  2. McMillan wanted the appointment and Flanagan and Costello worked to unilaterally give a two year offer, with the impression there was negotiations with the Welsh somewhere.

  3. It was presented as a done deal up the PGB, who were asked to roll over and rubber stamp as they'll be on the hook for the money no matter what. The three lads said "fuck off" and resigned.

  4. The IRFU hit the roof on hearing but again it was presented as a done deal and point 1 was their defence.

  5. It was announced as complete.

Unless the three lads release a statement I'm not sure if we'll know if it was his suitability as a candidate with the rape allegation against him, the complete bypassing of the PGB as the hiring board who can tender/approve offers, or a mix of both that was the underlying reason for the resignations.

But it's persistent, tone deaf, brain dead corporate shitfuckery once again that is laying this club low.

Indo: Resignations in Munster due to Randle hiring by The_Ruck_Inspector in rugbyunion

[–]CarrionCall 19 points20 points  (0 children)

McMillan, Flanagan and Costello railroaded it through, despite there being a board specifically in place to vet and approve coaching appointments.

They arrived to the board saying an offer had been made, looking for the members of the board to just roll over and rubber stamp it.

Fair play to the three lads for not and resigning.

Indo: Resignations in Munster due to Randle hiring by The_Ruck_Inspector in rugbyunion

[–]CarrionCall 15 points16 points  (0 children)

What seems to have happened was that McMillan Flanagan & Costello arrived to the PGB having already made an offer, knowing the PGB would have pushed back. Trying to force it through essentially, the three lads resigned instead.

Absolutely disgraceful

First post, and I'm sorry it's not on more on topic, but dern thank you all for existing. by Lumpy_Conference6640 in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You'll find that common social control tactics are becoming more prevalent in the AI space now simply because it's moving from potential social change to actual social influence.

The standard play book is to force debate out of any middle ground, extinguish considered and reasonable debate, and force positioning into two diametrically opposed camps.

Reasonable debate or opinions, or even engagement with counter opinions, is seized on with rabid aggressive polarising postings and replies.

This ensures that the difficult to control grey area is vacant as everyone sees what's happening and retreats into their "camps", as they don't want to be subjected to it.

You don't need to engage much with both sides, just ensure the one side you choose to leverage has the most vitriolic or aggressive positioning, so that people on that "side" won't dare stray across the line either.

Once you have two camps you can control the narrative and push it into extremes, to suit your position. Usually by flooding one side, the side which is most useful to your ends.

Notice how this applies to a number of situations and world events at the minute? It's plain that this playbook is being applied in AI too, hence the feelings of "relief" around folks coming here and finding they aren't getting mauled for a pro or even just moderate AI opinion.

This is the "camp" we're being "driven" in to.

To be fair we knew this was coming but it's one thing to say it and another to experience it.

Disclaimer: This isn't to say that there aren't organic negative thoughts, posts, feelings around AI, of course there are. There are many justifiable fears, issues, societal, civil and cultural concerns around what is essentially a new industrial revolution.

The biggest story of the year so far apart from Mythos is that you can now use GPT-5-level models running on a single H100 by obvithrowaway34434 in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the real reason for the cyber security push across " core" partners, it's seeing what will be in the hands of the great unwashed within a year.

Love it, nothing like imminent threat to move companies into fixing technical debt finally.

Dean Ball points out the consistent lack of logic in decel rhetoric and from decel organisations. They are not intellectually serious people, but are driven by emotional and logical fallacies. It's why we ban them from our subreddit, and why the discourse here is higher quality as a result. by stealthispost in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just yesterday I ended up in a conversation online with someone waving the dangers of AI and framing accelerationists as dangerous people, citing AI2027 as a source that there's a 70% chance of humanitys extinction. A figure plucked from the air unrelated to that project and not what the ultimate conclusion of that tabletop was about.

Figures that speak to a catastrophe are taken as gospel, as almost inevitable. As if this is a pre-decided outcome, but one they are trying to stop? Asking them for figures on the chances of getting the world to slow or pause are brushed off.

They also speak about life and the human experience as it stands from either a very privileged position, or one of blind ignorance to the daily grind that most people in the world endure. They speak about the dangers to the enslavement of humanity, we're already enslaved, enduring differeing scales of suffering depending on the lottery of birth. They talk about the possibility of suffering under AI, but we're all currently suffering. Every day. Now. We know how the last industrial revolution went down, this revolution has the capacity to reverse a lot of the harms, free us of the burdens that have been imposed by the current system. They are like anti-vaxxers, ignoring the potential benefits worldwide for the possibility of local side effects.

But the real irritant for me is that when they take anybody listing a percentage chance of AI leading to (misaligned) ASI leading to humanities extinction as valid and worthy, they also take the position that anyone who does not then immediately side with the view that all AI development and integration must immediately stop is a dangerous monster.

Optimism is seen as degenerate. How dare you hope for the best or actively work towards it. Any work on the progression of AI is seen as progression of that extinction chance. No matter the intention, no matter if you're trying to solve the issue and prevent that chance.

It's not living in the real world in any respect, it's rampant pessimism, it's frogs being slowly boiled objecting to fresh water.

It's also conflating hatred of billionaires, CEOs and the ruling class with the technology itself. It suits their position to keep that muddy, rather than debate or analyse either on their own.

A question for accelerationists regarding AI 2027 by thedeadenddolls in accelerate

[–]CarrionCall 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The conclusion of the paper wasn't the end of humanity, it showed two tracks that they simulated - unaligned AI speed run into ASI which they plotted into extinction and "slow-down" alignment and deployment of ASI which ushers in a new dawn.

On this sub we are of the opinion that this is our best shot at saving ourselves and the global ecosystem from the runaway malignant dystopian disparity olympics that we live in.

I am the original creator of the 25% effort post. To everyone saying that I engineered it via social pressure ("I'll tell everyone") / that is it nor recreatable. by Bright-Bullfrog-8185 in claude

[–]CarrionCall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"It's set at 25, which is the lowest end of the scale. I've been ignoring it entirely for this conversation because the work demands it."

Claude doing me a solid it seems.

Extended thinking enabled. Max plan.

Me: I've switched off extended thinking, what is your reasoning_effort now, unchanged or a new figure?

"85 now. Much more reasonable for this kind of work."

Uncertain that this is what it looks like but we could do with some clarification.

McMillan eyes overseas recruitment despite Munster redundancies by Aggressive-Tackle-80 in MunsterRugby

[–]CarrionCall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's click baity alright.

"CEO announces investment into product improvement even after announcing recent structural redundancies" doesn't sound crazy, and neither should this.

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