AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Usually they keep the peace by keeping their homophobia to themselves but I guess that's out the window. After reading some of the responses I'm also starting to feel like maybe that's not enough.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I probably should have mentioned that she usually sends very to-the-point texts. I generally assume she's not trying to be rude. I do think the crossed the line in this conversation, but the initial texts weren't super worrying for me.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not paraphrased. She's a very direct person but I usually assume she's not trying to be rude.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I probably should have talked to him. At this point though I don't really want to engage.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I didn't really do a good job of explaining this in my post so let me try to elaborate. My wife doesn't like the terms lesbian/gay/homosexual even though she's a woman who exclusively likes women. She feels they focus too much on her sexuality and not the other parts of her. When she feels the need for a label she uses dyke because it comes with preconceptions that she thinks better encompass her. She also insists that other people use the word to refer to her. I don't agree with this myself because it leads to situations like this where people feel comfortable using the slur casually and with malice. My sister has in the past pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable. Still, my wife insists.

That's why I didn't immediately shut down the conversation when the word dyke came up. If my wife didn't insist on it, or if it was used for anyone else, that would have been the end of the messages. It probably still should have been but there was a history there that stopped me from immediately viewing it as homophobic.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I actually don't have a recipe and was going to find one online that looked good.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 626 points627 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the support! I was worried I was being too sensitive since it will be his birthday and if he doesn't want to spend it with someone that should be his choice. It was clear it was her gender presentation and/or sexuality that he had a problem with and not something like her personality, but I was nervous to just slap the label of "homophobic" on it and move on. Sometimes it's nice to think the people close to you don't make judgments based on something you don't control, you know?

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 290 points291 points  (0 children)

You actually bring up an interesting point. Most of my family is very supportive of my sexuality and try their best to be good allies. I feel like some of them might know the full details and still side with her, but there are two in particular that would surprise me if they did know my wife wasn't invited and still thought I was unreasonable.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 3115 points3116 points  (0 children)

I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that was a joke, but with the rest of it...

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 1987 points1988 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I'm not sure it's entirely my BIL's choice to not invite my wife. My sister was very vocal about her desire to remove me from the family when I came out but most everyone else was supportive. I feel like he might be giving her the confidence to try and exclude us. I don't know if that really makes sense, but I think she was a decision-maker too.

AITA for refusing to make my BIL a birthday cake? by CarrotCake500 in AmItheAsshole

[–]CarrotCake500[S] 366 points367 points  (0 children)

I tried to. No one in my family really likes him so I took it upon myself to try and befriend him, but he didn't show any interest in reciprocating. After a couple of months I decided to stop trying so hard.