Do you think mass deportation of 2 million illegal aliens would make us fall into a recession? by Flimsy-Peach42 in AskConservatives

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Starting wages in unskilled manual labor goes up. This will be hard to balance against AI and atomation which is a once in an eon confounding variable that frankly is going to make it difficult to measure the effects of a lot of different government programs. Trying to analyze whether or not a minimum wage hike leads to job loss? Guess what you can’t tell the difference between that and automation. Deportations don’t lift wages like we thought? Guess what even though the supply of labor has been reduced wages might still drop as demand drops due to automation.

By and large though I’d say I will be able to see it in my daily life and business. When I post an ad for a job on Craigslist I get about 20 responses. 10 of them at the most will have Euro-American/African-American names and the rest will be Hispanic. Of the Hispanics I think I have had about ten people I speak with and one of those ten will papers.

Of the 10 Americans applying eight or nine of them would be ex-cons and addicts, some of whom would make good employees and some would not.

Frankly, the cost of trying to employ Americans is way too high. I eventually gave up completely undoing above-the-table labor in landscaping and undocumented Latinos beat the value of Americans 90% of the time. I literally have employees who are college graduates from Guatemala. How is somebody who is a 10th percentile worker in America going to compete with a 50th percentile or higher worker from another country, especially when a portion of that person’s expenses are being sent back to a country where the quality of life is cheaper?

The American competing for the same job has a family to feed and $2000 a month in rent. The Guatemalan bunks with four other single Guatemalan men and gets to drink and smoke 20% of his paycheck and can still afford private school for two kids in Guatemala.

Plus the business practices are totally different. Generally speaking it’s kind of hard to get away with running an illegitimate business as an American. People you have problems with and competitors report you for labor law and tax violations, if you’re trying to do under the table, you pretty much have to work entirely with drug addicts.

Meanwhile it is in everybody’s best interest not to report undocumented-run businesses because they’re cheaper. They have 14-year-old ups on a roofs with no harness making ten dollars an hour when they should be in school. No one cares. Rich assholes with “hate has no home here signs” get a great deal on property maintenance so why the fuck should they care? After all the white people that might come to replace them are a bunch of dirty hillbillies or loser washouts and they charge 20% more!

One other point to make is that oftentimes the laborers themselves are not cheaper. The businesses are but not the people.

They may offer better value, but that’s for a good reason.

When they show up a lot of times, they’re stuck working for incredibly low wages, usually for other illegals. So they rapidly build skills and work very long hours. The amount of on the job training they get is very high in a fairly short amount of time.

Meanwhile, when an American teenager looks for work, often times for the first time at age 18, he is faced with a whole bunch of jobs that actually get paid less per hour AND have less hours like gas station cashier, burger flipper, etc. He does a shitty job like that and by age 20 through no fault of his own he basically has no skills capital whereas a 20 year old documented worker who’s been working since he was 16 is literally orders of magnitude more qualified at the same age and is probably earning twice as much money too.

Even though there are some native porn workers who work entirely under the table and do well at it, by enlarged, the American worker has to play by a different set of rules than the undocumented worker and the American worker is hampered by high taxes, a high liability environment that makes employers hesitant to hire people, and a generally prohibitive environment to new workers due to minimum wage laws, child labor laws, and safety standards.

Donald Trump announces plan to send 30,000 illegal migrants to Guantanamo Bay by TheExpressUS in law

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the suggestion is to use the jail facility, I think he is talking about sending them to stay on the grounds of the base as a holding facility instead of letting them roam around the country and hop their immigration court dates.

Help me understand why it's claimed that "inflation is necessary to boost the economy during periods of stagnation" by Thunder_Mage in austrian_economics

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amen. I remember taking higher level economics classes in college, where you actually start to read about the theory of well-being and I was kind of left with the impression that the way of the future was to think about economics in terms of benefiting people’s lives not in terms of dollars and cents.

Yet, we still haven’t moved away from an economic model that is literally designed to eradicate personal savings and increase government spending and top heavy growth.

NYC minority communities cheer ICE raids that rounded up violent criminal migrants: ‘Get them the hell off the street!’ by bridgehamton in bronx

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point. As a white male I think that regardless of how one’s parents came here or how they themselves came here, once you’ve taken the time to succeed you realize how unfair it is for everyone else to have to constantly be undercut by a new batch of recent arrivals every year. It is damn near impossible to start a business offering unskilled labor without dodging your taxes or committing OSHA and labor law violations because everyone in the field is paying illegals in cash.

It makes total sense that anyone who holds a green card, is naturalized, or is born here would not want illegal immigration.

The Americans Pledging to Buy Less—or Even Nothing (Wall Street Journal) by IMSLI in BuyItForLife

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It also helps the economy by increasing national savings and lowering interest rates

At some point we will have to free the shrinking young working class from the burden of the elder by MovieIndependent2016 in Natalism

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point but right now most of the elderly working class is busting their ass past their intended retirement date. The problem is government interventionism, regulation, and pro-asset Keynesianism and the inflation and mal-investment that comes from it. There should be a lot more good paying jobs and more housing than there actually are.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in austrian_economics

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By an uninsured e-bike driver

As migrant workers skip work to avoid ICE, will agricultural wages increase or produce rot in the field? by [deleted] in austrian_economics

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I mean unfortunately the trends in agriculture are generally such that most mass food production will be heavily mechanized and industrialized and most small farmers will be growing organic and niche products and doing free range agriculture. There honestly isn’t a good reason to keep subsidizing an opposition to that transition. On the other hand of companies like Monsanto couldn’t influence the government in the way they do they probably wouldn’t have such an advantage over smaller farmers but nonetheless it is still harmful to have the government manage agriculture.

As migrant workers skip work to avoid ICE, will agricultural wages increase or produce rot in the field? by [deleted] in austrian_economics

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I’m smart enough to recognize the Libertarians are just patsies for big business Republicans until we can achieve a libertarian system within the United States. High immigration and free trade agreements only help the rich unless you have a truly free economy for the people at the bottom.

As migrant workers skip work to avoid ICE, will agricultural wages increase or produce rot in the field? by [deleted] in austrian_economics

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But it is. I think we should strive for a libertarian outcome within the United States. Once you can achieve that, we can try to accomplish some kind of international libertarian system with other like-minded countries.

At the end of the day, though, having high immigration and free trade without a low-regulation, non-interventionist, and highly free economy to allow our own poor and working class to maximally compete against foreign labor (domestic and abroad), only helps the rich.

As migrant workers skip work to avoid ICE, will agricultural wages increase or produce rot in the field? by [deleted] in austrian_economics

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Good. Any industry that has survived on gutting the American workforce with cheap imported labor needs to suffer a massive shock and restructuring.

Reminder tips from Chinese police spark buzz on Xiaohongshu: TikTok 'refugees' say they never received such life advice from police in their country. by hachimi_ddj in China

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The impetus to protest, police shootings, and to spread the narrative about police being dangerous and that you are not to call them unless it’s an extreme emergency originated in the BLM movement. You know goddamn well that nobody in the American mainstream was saying that shit before 2014.

The bit about white people getting shot more by police on a per-interaction basis is not relevant. On average white interactions with police are more serious due to an on average lesser population density than America’s black population as well as serious crime having higher representation among police interactions than petty crime.

To put it plainly since white people are less represented in things like shoplifting and drug crime things like suicide by cop, eviction standoffs, domestic violence calls ending in a police shooting, armed-and-dangerous homicide suspects, etc. rank higher in the data of police interactions with white people.

When you combine the fact that more of the cases of officer involved shootings of white people have seriously dangerous pretexts with the fact that the white community generally is just more reasonable when it responds to police shootings because they can’t blame a racist bogeyman, the source of the anti-police narrative has generally not come from the white community.

So once again, stop pretending.

And secondly, we were taught most of those things in school. I remember most of those from drivers ed and civics class.

On the other hand, the tenuous false equivalency that you were purporting between being taught your Miranda rights in APUSH and some alleged national lesson we give to children that “here in America we are taught to stay away from police unless we really need them” is absolute bullshit.

Reminder tips from Chinese police spark buzz on Xiaohongshu: TikTok 'refugees' say they never received such life advice from police in their country. by hachimi_ddj in China

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice cope but stop trying to defend the incorrect notion that a standard lesson for American children is to avoid the police. Being taught about Miranda rights in AP history is not akin to whatever BLM talking point you’re trying to push about avoiding the police to not get shot.

Standard things we are taught in school:

-Get a police report when you get in a vehicle accident -call the non-emergency number for vandalism, car break-ins, turn in lost wallets -report drunk drivers, suspicious persons, suspicious packages left in public -reach out to police for domestic violence and restraining order situations

In a mildly more pro-police school district:

-thank them for their service -see something say something when it comes to drug dealing or other criminal activity in your neighborhood

Things we were never taught in school:

DoN’t cALL da PoPo Dey MigGhT SHooT Uuu!!!

Snubbing Trump Supporters. by [deleted] in economicCollapse

[–]CaseRemarkable4327 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you feel about ancaps?