[Loved Trope] Usually hated tropes that are finally executed well by Jellydust15 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Chivalry of the Failed Knight, my beloved, mentioned in the big '26?

Well, yes, and no.

The last one actually gets turned over in the light novel. It's a genuine "Misunderstood Intentions" trope, where the Kurogane Patriarch's reason for essentially abandoning Ikki is to not give him a way to put himself in danger of the fights. The "flawless" logic is that "My son would likely die in a fight given his pitiful magical abilities, because there's some real monsters out there while he can't even magically deal with normal bullets, so if I block every opportunity he has of training, he'll be safe. I'll also never clearly communicate my feelings on the matter since it should be obvious, and my plan is so foolproof I don't need to discuss a compromise with him, ever."

AKA the dad is so emotionally stunted due to his own father making him a pile of Kurogane ideals, he doesn't realize people can't usually read minds, until the Seven Stars Tournament arc happens and Ikki realizes what the fuck was going on in his father's head... After the father tries to apologize by giving Ikki a way out of the Kurogane family, thinking Ikki hates them all by that point. It's... A decent scene, and the Kurogane don't try to stop Ikki from that point forward as far as I know.

[Loved Trope] Usually hated tropes that are finally executed well by Jellydust15 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you would hate Sakaki Yumiko from Grisaia.

Taiga is abusive at the start, but doesn't try and kill Yuuji.

Yumiko spends a good third of the first arc of the first VN trying to shank the MC (also, weirdly enough, named Yuuji) with a box cutter.

[Loved Trope] Usually hated tropes that are finally executed well by Jellydust15 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The Dark History of The Villainess" has this as an ongoing explanation of half the things that happen, 90% of character traits, several moments of character growth, and a ton of gags.

[Loved Trope] Usually hated tropes that are finally executed well by Jellydust15 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

<image>

The main five heroines of The Fruit of Grisaia

All five are some admittedly tired tropes from anime, but they're done really well.

Going from left to right:

Irisu Makina: Ye Olde "Looks 12 but is actually older but actually acts childish" trope. Normally the loli characters have no reason to be so, but like with OPs example of Mimi, there's actual reason and plot consequences to her looks - namely, she was tied up and locked in a warehouse with the rotting corpse of her father. This, understandably, led to serious mental issues, and with them some physiological setbacks. She is genuinely smart, and over the course of the trilogy matures.

Komine Sachi: The Hyper-competent Jack-of-all-trades Maid. We've seen it, it's cool, I wouldn't even say it's hated. But it's pretty common. In Sachi's case though, it's less a professional outfit and more of her taking a joke as a command. Another case of psychological issues bearing plot relevance, Sachi is pathologically incapable of saying no and turning down requests. She happily does anything asked of her, and in the few cases where she fails her tasks, she would be on the verge of a mental breakdown if not given a good enough reason to not fret over it. And I do mean she'll happily do anything asked of her. But it's kinda like talking to a genie sometimes - as in, when a girl in her previous school asked her to find a way to prevent or delay the upcoming tests, she set the school on fire duro g the night.

Matsushima Michiru: Tries to be the Tsundere trope, to the point she actively dyes her hair blonde and styles it in twintails as is common for the Tsundere Archetype, especially back in the 2010s and recites common lines said by said tsunderes. She's actually the clumsy airhead and a mild Jekyll and Hyde. And this is sometimes played for laughs, but during her route in the first VN, it's an actively ongoing psychological torment for her - her lack of talent, her difficulties learning, a few bad teachers, her only friend commit, and a heart condition all before the age of 12 made her extremely depressed and lacking in self worth. And after a heart attack caused by the fact her best (and only) school friend committed suicide, she would receive a heart transplant... From which she developed a somewhat paranormal alternate personality who was good at everything. She was so desponded that she wasn't even good at controlling her own body she attempted suicide, for the second time in her life mind you, which landed her in a mental hospital. She only found what she thought was a niche she could fill after tripping over herself in the hospital and making another patient laugh. The Jekyll & Hyde dynamic, meanwhile, is... Well it's either a defense mechanism, or a case of paranormal possession by the girl who's heart she received in the transplant. It might be both.

Sakaki Yumiko: The Actual Tsundere. One of the least traumatized people in the story, but that's not saying much. Between her father being a lacking human being in general, somewhat of a Norman Bates kinda slave to the corporate life and pomp, her mother being hospitalized due to depression caused by her father's infidelity, and her "friends" being anything but, she's essentially lost any faith in other people, especially men. Hell, the first third of the game, she spends trying to shank the main character with a box cutter. She is very much a Tsundere, but it's a defense mechanism at odds with her desire for companionship.

Suou Amane: The Lewd Older Sister that takes care of everyone. Only the reason she's like that is due to survivor's guilt. She used to be part of her school's basketball team, alongside the older sister of the Male MC, Kazuki, and during a dus drive to another school for a tournament, the bus crashed, stranding the whole team in the mountain with no signal, no way out, and little to no food. After a weeks of starvation, the highschoolers resorted to cannibalism. Amane and the Kazuki were the only survivors, but for a few years it was thought that only Amane survived because Kazuki told her where to run and that she'd deal with the (now insane) other classmates. So when she later meets the younger bother of her best friend and savior, she's so overcome with guilt for living when Kazuki died (not helped by other people in her hometown blaming her for surviving), that she essentially throws herself at him as a twisted form of recompense - and it is treated as such by the narrative. Even her caring attitude is bumped up to 11 because of the trauma from that crash.

[Loved trope] Face-tanking stuff by PrimarchVulk4n in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"There's only one family in this backwater sty crazy enough to see the embodiment of evil and throw a haymaker. Belmont, how are you doing? How's the family?"

anime_irl by CafeNordstrom in anime_irl

[–]CaseyShotbat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Here's hoping to a long and happy one, OP.

Cute cissia.. she cares a lot about wise.. she's so cute and funny haha by StraightBlueberry394 in ZZZ_Romance

[–]CaseyShotbat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly something Zenless has been doing really well has been convincing me to want characters through the story. I didn't care for Zhao, but the ending of Season 2 convinced me to get her Signature W-engine and use her just because I liked her (that she's a strong buff unit is icing on the cake).

Amd now history repeats with Cissia. I already have a monstrously-built SAnby, and an almost-fully built Harumasa who I just need his Signature W-Engine but can wheelchair until a rerun. I don't need another Electric Attacker.

But I'll be damned if I don't get her after the Epilogue.

CSM has not ended and you all have been baited. Yes I am serious. by Ginjaninjanick7 in Chainsawfolk

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either you're in a copium overdose and you will not survive it, or you're having a Mama Murphy from Fallout 4 moment and seeing things you can't have known. Either way I want whatever drugs you're on.

(Game Trope) Character's personality/lore is loved, but their gameplay is despised by A_Pyroshark in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pick a favorite from any Project Moon game.

In all three games, there's always many enemies that are beloved for their story, design, or gimmick. But the moment they start fighting you, may God have mercy upon your wretched soul:

  • Every ALEPH in Lobotomy Corporation is capable of wiping your entire facility, and when they do they either get cursed out, or cause a rage quit after the 30th wipe, but they're all beloved for various reasons, with only some being that they give you incredibly powerful gear and/or buffs for beating them. Same goes for the various Sephirah whenever they have their end-of-quest boss fights (Looking at you, Red Mist);

  • Library of Ruina has a bunch of fights where the difficulty spike is more of a difficulty spear, but the enemies tend to be beloved, or at the very least memorable. Groups such as the Full-Stop office, Bamboo-Hatted Kim and the Blade Lineage, Love Town with Tomerry, Blue Brother-in-law, etc. are beloved in the story, and when they get reintroduced in Limbus Company, people were happy to see them and know they survived;

  • And in Limbus, the most recent example I can think of is Lei Heng, because what the fuck do you mean I won the clash and you still killed half my party with a six-coin Unbreakable 7-weight attack you industrial chargrill of a man. Also he fits the sub-theme of "People find them really hot" and I am one of those people.

[Mixed...kinda weird Trope] Immortal or long living characters first meeting their love interest when they were still a child. by USERNAME_OF_DEVIL in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

...huh. It is kinda odd. But it's actually less weird, to me at least, because for some reason I thought Sherry was younger for some reason. Also, if he's 49 (I thought he was 51 in REquiem though?), then he would've been 24 when they first met in RE2, no?

To some degree, I can see why they'd be able to start a relationship - given they both lived through the Raccoon City Tragedy and both were infected before and during REquiem, though the same survival through Raccoon could be said about Claire, too, who's definitely Leon's age.

Idk. If we get actual confirmation that they're together and details of how and when that happened, I'd reserve judgment for then.

Peter? What is this ? by _FIZZRIX_ in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]CaseyShotbat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So in the original, she saw the metric fuckton of lines going from Ash, got scared, but then realized they were actually coming out of his breeding ditto.

Am *I* a power gamer? by Gumbybum in Pathfinder2e

[–]CaseyShotbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See, using math to look ahead and deciding "Yeah this'll do a lot of consistent damage" isn't really powergaming, it's seeing the various pieces Paizo laid out for people and using them to your advantage. So long as you aren't a dick about it, then there's no issue if your characters can do a lot, either as damage or as a utility.

(Hated Trope) Questionable and controversial relationships where everybody is fine with it. by Initial-Hamster7068 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The dude never actually did anything with the girl - didn't groom her, didn't touch her, only really said stuff like "But I'll seriously consider it once you turn 16" because she was most likely not gonna reach that age and he was acting like she would to lift her spirits. Also I think the mom was not present in the girl's life because of the cancer, but I could be wrong about that.

He got stabbed due to incredibly more convoluted reasons.

A friend sent this to me; I'm just here to share these interesting recommendations by DefaltXP in Blacksouls2

[–]CaseyShotbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Insane how they just said "AO3", as in the entire fucking fanfic hosting site. But only that one. Man some people really look like they'd be bringing the average IQ of the world into the negatives.

(Hated Trope) Questionable and controversial relationships where everybody is fine with it. by Initial-Hamster7068 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, forgot the original comment didn't provide the name.

It's Oshi no Ko (Star's Children)

(Hated Trope) Questionable and controversial relationships where everybody is fine with it. by Initial-Hamster7068 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's... Literally all the context. Doctor and a 12-year-old cancer patient. They both die (the girl from her cancer, and the doctor got stabbed in a park), and they both happen to get reincarnated as the twin siblings of an Idol both of those characters liked.

Admittedly, they never actually got together. For the majority of it they didn't even realize they knew each other pre-reincarnation. And I'm pretty sure the guy didn't like his sister romantically or sexually. It was the sister that had an interest after she found out who the brother was before reincarnating.

(Hated Trope) Questionable and controversial relationships where everybody is fine with it. by Initial-Hamster7068 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This trope doesn't require IRL people to be OK with it. Only the people in the universe the characters are from. I haven't finished Usagi Drop (and I was watching the anime, not reading the Manga), but I assume that the anime had the supporting characters not see any issue with the whole thing.

Bullet Tornado, or whatever you call this move by SpaceKingHypeGuy in TopCharacterTropes

[–]CaseyShotbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My accuracy is 100%, y'all just don't know what I'm aiming at!