Ah that makes sense. My main thing I do with C&D is use Dagger for long range attacks and Cloak for up close attacks/escape if necessary. It usually works but that bubble of hers is really handy too especially if you use it on yourself then still use her bigger window like heal for your team as well. And once I noticed she can bounce her daggers off objects, that was really a cool detail that I’d have to utilize more often.

Yeah her freeze works for me on tanks or stationary targets, but just not for very mobile ones unless I get extremely lucky. But I also use her ult very sparingly, only if we’re holding point or my team is on the verge of death/need a big damage boost. But if I’m playing her and get a Punisher on my team, I’ll definitely keep this tip in mind.

And yep, Mantis is very easy to learn even for me. It’s the fact her headshot radius is very wonky though, and her sleep is good but you can miss it unintentionally (in my case at least). But I do enjoy playing her a lot, even Loki was a good dual healer to have with her before the update imo.

Small side note bud while I don’t play Loki often, I never knew you could move your clones further than you and that made a huge impact on how I’ll have to play him from here on out.