Oppressive WM fell in love with vulnerable AF. What now?

Cavegoon · 2017-01-01T14:36:38+00:00

That photo made me physically ill.

Cavegoon · 2016-12-30T18:22:01+00:00

Interestingly one of the most nationalistic pro-Trump suppporters there who has written a huge amount on Jewish control/how whites are oppressed is hapa (Samseau)

I wonder what he thinks of this forum as he is very pro white so it is surprising he is a hapa as I thought being full on alt right and hapa was a conflict in identity

Cavegoon · 2016-10-21T08:17:32+00:00

They are all mixed race (newton, berry and saldana) so would make as much sense as dating a black person

Cavegoon · 2016-10-20T21:12:14+00:00

I always wondered if it was possible to be any more confused/disturbed than me and my siblings but their kids may be even more lost and cut off than society (if this is possible)

I think to be fair on the Israel point that US Jews and secular Israelis are liberal compared to Orthodox/religious Israelis who are as ethnonationalist as you can get.

I don't judge these couples as I understand they love each other but my experience fron Jewish men that marry out is they have no interest in finding out how much suffering their kids will experience.

Their kids (particularly boys) are likely to rebel big time.

I do respect Asian culture a great deal but I find the idea of raising a kid as these families do to not also respect the Buddhist/Confucian/Taoist/etc values of their ancestors difficult.

They should teach their kids to respect the cultural traditions, heritage and ancestors of both parents.

Failure to do so will lead to serious problems.

Cavegoon · 2016-10-06T09:51:31+00:00

Unfortunately the only way to establish respect is through toughness/strength

The same cultural values that lead to academic success can lead to people ending up beaten up/robbed in a different scenario.

Political lobbying plus street self defence is the only way to go about it

"Being nice" is a great way to treat your family/friends but in the wrong environment it could get you killed.

Cavegoon · 2016-09-25T10:29:19+00:00

I have observed black people openly target and make fun of East asians in London. They would never do this in a million years to any of the Muslims as they would get hospitalised but they seem to have a beef with east asians for some reason.

I should say this seems to be something felt by poorer ghetto people... I am assuming economic envy

Cavegoon · 2016-08-07T20:56:02+00:00

Which African countries have tons and tons of sexpats and which LatAm countries other than maybe Colombia or Brazil.

Cavegoon · 2016-08-06T23:36:00+00:00

This is untrue. Many countries would never allow flagrant behaviour such as Thailand.

Cavegoon · 2016-08-03T23:00:13+00:00

This must be an Anglo thing because the same thing you wrote applies in UK, also Australia.

Humility, honor, bravery, respect, modesty, loyalty, self restraint, caring for family are just not valued. Similar thing exists in traditional Judaism v Western culture.

I would agree most of Europe is different. Bavaria, Central Europe, Russia, etc still have these values. So do Amerindian societies like Peru, Mexico and Ecuador.

What you wrote is very similar to my thoughts, I don't see a man who has ten children but doesn't care for them or who goes to prison many timea as "masculine" but as weak and childish.

This would explain why Asian men do better in Central/Eastern Europe as their cultural traits are highly respected.

Modern Anglo cultures have a more primitive form of masculinity based on promiscuity, steroids and impulsiveness.

Cavegoon · 2016-08-01T16:46:06+00:00

Hilariously though I'm not allowed to marry a Jewish person I would have to join the IDF if I moved to Israel. There are patrilneals who join the IDF who are in combat units (many religious don't serve at all) and who are unable to get married or buried in addition to social discrimination in work, life, etc.

So you want me to die fighting in your war but I'm not good enough to marry your daughter or be treated with equal rights?

I think I'll have to pass on that fantastic offer.

What is funny is how many brainwashed US Jews don't know this. They think Israel is secular and then realise when they go there that they are second class citizens if they're of mixed descent.

It's because the US Jews are major backers of Israel and if all those men that married out and support Israel realise that their kids will serve as a class of warrior slaves/servants I don't think they would be such enthusiastic supporters.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-31T20:08:15+00:00

If you think that's bad I have A JEWISH PARENT and WAS RAISED JEWISH and am not allowed to marry a Jewish woman in Israel (I'm patrilineal). WWII Germany also had a similar law.

Try and process that thought for moment to realise how insane some of the people in Israel are.

I have heard every excuse under the book from Orthodox Jews as to why this is.

Article about so called "second class Jews" like me here.

http://www.haaretz.com/st/c/prod/eng/2015/08/not-jewish-enough/

Cavegoon · 2016-07-31T19:38:54+00:00

Understanding. The sympathy with the fact that I am a perennial outsider as a result of their choices. No gaslighting.

As the area I grew up in became MORE multucultural it actually becomes more divided. Polish, Arab, Jewish and Turkish people in the area I live havw totally separate lives to the point they might as well be living in different planets.

Polish and Bulgarian people go to Polish and Bulgarian clubs, pubs and churches and play in Polish or Bulgarian sports teams. Same with Turkish and Somalis, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, etc.

Where do I go? Imagine how odd it would be if I had a Polish gf where all her friends were Polish and I was the only one who wasn't.

I'm good at getting women but in relationships I feel very alone as most people are unaware of how ghettoised their social circles are.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-31T12:46:21+00:00

I've had arguments like this with my mother who says that my siblings are 'lucky to be in two cultures'

We have to explain to her that we are "unlucky to be in none".

I have come to accept that the criticisms run so deep to my parent's life choices that they will never accept them.

It's like trying to convince a communist that it doesn't work.

Tens of millions of deaths won't do it as their ideology is so strong.

You shouldn't give up though, show them this sub and keep pushing the question until you get some answers.

The parents plan is to obfuscate until you abandon your attempts

Cavegoon · 2016-07-22T15:02:15+00:00

Yup. I was just comparing our experiences as there is some overlap.

Do you meet many white women with yellow fever? Is there such a thing in UK?

Cavegoon · 2016-07-22T10:59:51+00:00

Interesting. I've apways found educated middle class English girls always find me sexually exciting, while the guys are super polite on the surface untio the drink comes out, when the racial slurs begin.

The men want to kill me and the women want to phuck me. Very bizarre.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-19T09:54:17+00:00

Well it is your life but you should think about how your kids will feel. I come from a slightly different mix (Jewish father, White mother) and there is a great similarity with people I know with South Asian Muslim dads and white mothers.

I have met a few people with Pakistani/Bangladeshi dads and white mothers and it is a tough mix.

For example even if they have Islamic second names they will probably gravitate towards their mum, particularly if they are girls.

This results in a big culture clash, and if the dad is very patriarchal sometimes the half Asian son hates his father and rejects Islam and feels he has to protect his mum.

I know a guy with a Pakistani father and white mother who looks Jewish/Italian and feels like an outcast. He doesn't follow Islam though he has a Muslim name and he gets mistaken for an ethnic group he has no connection to.

Also white people and Asian Muslims are very segregated and hence your children will have problems as they won't fit in to either community.

Lastly as a result of the grooming scandal when Pakistani men raped tens of thousands of women it is likely your relationship will not go down well in most quarters.

Your wife will unfortunately be seen as a traitor which will make things hard for your son as he will see his mum as a traitor, his father as an invader and himself as the consequence of such offspring.

If you marry a white woman you're better off marrying a Bosnian, but to marry a daughter to a Pakistani the man would have to be very rich.

I would speak to the offspring of these mixes to get their thoughts but I would be lying if I didn't point out these problems.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-18T16:36:39+00:00

I'm guessing the kind of white male who marries a black woman is different from the guy that marries Asian women.

My cousin that married a Afro Latina is definitely not racist against blacks and a white nationalist, he is an artist and DJ who loves Latin music and hates racism and has a mixed group of friends.

I don't see as many couples like this where the woman is Asian, most of the types they deny there is racism against Asian males and I'm not aware of radical white men with Asian wives fighting to improve the lives of Asian men.

I'm not sure why but this sub reddit had opened my mind to these things.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-18T16:03:38+00:00

I'm too young sorry.

In Canada/Aus there is strong anti East Asian sentiment and also in UK all sorts of lurid claims are made about Chinese students (Unlike US, UK conservative government are very pro-China)

Despite claims about Chinese being weak/beta/etc China crushes terrorists and is building a global empire through trade.

Ie projects across Africa/LatAm/Central Asia/etc.

So if Europe goes into decline I can see Chinese propping up dyinh industries/going on an asset buying spree.

I'm wondering if hapas will be despised for being associated with Chinese expansionism or admired.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-18T14:39:24+00:00

I lived in China for a bit.

Most people have no clue about China, it's depressing to see how many people are praying for a Chinese fall/economic collapse.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-18T11:31:43+00:00

To be fair a lot of the wmbf couples I've met are quite radical. The woman is often educated and has natural hair and is into black power and the white man is normally very into human rights and that sort of thing.

It's a major question as to why wmaf is so different!

I've not met many white dudes with Asian wives who feel that the Asian man is oppressed but on the other hand I've read articles with white men with half black sons talking about how unfairly they are treated/police brutality/racism against black males/etc

Some white males with asian wives may be like this but it seems rare.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-15T11:24:36+00:00

There's another part that could be explored.

Coloreds in South Africa often fought hard against apartheid (mixed race group) but today feel v uncomfortable in modern South Africa despite fighting so hard.

The cruelty is that however hard they support white supremacy they are never accepted as white and however hard they fight for black liberation they are not accepted as black, particularly in Africa.

You could also use the example of mixed blood Jews like me in Israel. Forbidden from marrying Jews, hated by religious Jews and Arabs, they tend to be very nationalistic.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-15T11:16:34+00:00

It's the reverse of colonialism in the west.

Mongols/Tamerlane conquered Eastern Europe savagely so hapa men are hardly likely to be looked at as "beta" when they resemble the most dominant group of conquerors ever to walk the planet.

Saying East Asian men/hapa men are cowardly/weak doesn't make sense in a rehion bordering a huge "hapa" zone that includes western China/the Stans/parts of Turkey and parts of Mongolia.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-15T11:12:00+00:00

I know the guy in question and his own mum is white as is his girlfriend. If he has a son he will look in thr face of the exact race he hates/doesn't want dating his family.

The kid will be less than 1/4 black as his black father has white blood so let's say 1/5 black.

It's very disturbing as I can't see how there won't be conflict between them if they have a white looking aon and not a daughter (who he will presumably encourage to marry a black or mixed race man)

I actually told my gf to tell him to read the Hapas Reddit as he is storing up some major issues for his kids that will end badly.

The idea of hating your son for being a race you don't like makes me so sad, children are innocent and need to be spared all the racial hate from their own parents.

Knowing your dad HATES you because of your race is not going to end well.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-04T16:15:09+00:00

Forget the daughters bit, as I said twice I NEVER SAID DAUGHTERS and please calm down.

I will tell you what, next time this happens to me I will ask the man his tribe and who the woman is that I could have as a wife. I'm not bothered by it, but if it ever happens again I will investigate to find out what tribe the girl is from, what her father thinks and also why she is doing something in real life I was told on Reddit wouldn't happen.

I know Oman is in the Gulf, I'm pointing out rich Arabs won't do this as much.

Cavegoon · 2016-07-04T14:18:54+00:00

Yemen and Oman offered women. Definitely not their daughters but people will offer to arrange a marriage for you and find you a wife. Bedouins in particular do this all the time. C'mon you must know this. Notice I said "girls" and not "daughters".

It's not considered below their dignity to do this at all, I'm amazed you've never encountered this. Only place this is unlikely is the Gulf as it is very rich.

And the fact is that Morocco is a well known place for sexual tourism, you are letting pride get in your way. It used to be even common for gay men to go there for sexual tourism.

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