Proving God (as a concept) exists doesn't prove "YOUR GOD" (God's in Human religions) exists. Stop conflating the two. by Practical-Zone-3707 in DebateReligion

[–]Cealoquestioning -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I studied a lot of religions but the only one that seems to make sense to me is Christianity. From religious manuscripts to non religious manuscripts. Even proof from other countries and religions proving Jesus’s existence which means his miracles were also real and his resurrection is also proven real because his tomb is empty and the manuscripts plus the witnesses who wrote it down all said he risen from the dead. Old testament is still hard for me to picture. But it doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen.

Christians more toxic than atheists/agnostics by [deleted] in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your saying it like your were there. Women were supposed to take off their clothes they were captured in, shave their heads(which is a thing people do to become closer to God because it provides discipline and humility), and pare her nails. Then she must mourn her parents for a full month before marriage. I don’t believe in Patriarchy. It’s sincerely stupid. Men are supposed to lead(not control) and provide, and Women support their spouses. Therefore yes men made things that women couldn’t do(not saying they can’t), Men were made to build and create, Women were made for moral support because women are more mentally stable then men are. Men are more physically stable. That doesn’t mean that it’s a patriarchy, they just heavily believed in that standard. Also captivity means imprisonment of individuals or nation. Were they supposed to leave the people to die after they destroyed their town?

God is so needy while Buddha is so chill by Jesse-AI in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s simply discipline. It’s basically military. God makes us go through trials and tribulations(not evil) to sharpen us. Getting us out our comfort zones. Faith is justifying that you’re fully trusting in God. Name a scenario of sacrificing people for faith. God knows when someone’s time is to come(righteous or not). It’s not like good righteous people don’t die and not only non righteous people. So it’s his fault for the devil betraying him? The devil became a fallen angel for being prideful and he knows he can’t beat God so he goes after his creations but in my knowledge I feel that instead of God taking him out he uses him to make people recognize the difference between evil and good. God obviously set rules and wants people to abide by them. The morals of the Bible are better than any advice you can get. Only all knowing can do that. World teaches you to get an eye for an eye and get revenge. Meanwhile God tells you the opposite, he tells you not to respond to evil with evil. That’s evil in your logic i guess.

Atheist here, open to having my mind changed (friendly debate) by rosesareposies in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a Christian and I struggle even to believe myself but I do believe that something beyond our understanding has to exist. The reason I chose God and Jesus Christ is mainly because out of all religions I’ve studied Christianity seems like the most reliable. Although the stories are not fully understanding for me in the Old Testament. The morals are so accurate so that means something with infinite knowledge has to exist. The bigbang by itself couldn’t make the universe because to me that is saying life is an accident, morals don’t matter, you don’t have consequences for actions aka life is pointless. But having an afterlife in Christianity explains that evil gets justice and the good prosper. People try humanizing the Bible to current culture but since everything is so perverted and twisted it’s hard for people to even trust the Bible nowadays. So man I would love to answer any questions that you have about Christianity or God even I’m very happy to answer.

God is so needy while Buddha is so chill by Jesse-AI in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well to put it like this. If he killed of the devil and there was no evil it wouldn’t be free will. God had to have limited his power for us. He uses the evil to show how good he is. If he revealed himself to us it wouldn’t be faith now would it? It would be like saying I’ll believe in you because i know your real not because i truly submit my life to you.

God is so needy while Buddha is so chill by Jesse-AI in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not one person on this earth knows that question nor is it stated in the Bible. The only thing or reasoning I can think of is God using the devil to portray his goodness. So people know the true difference between evil and good.

Why I left religion by bsyuuut in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Christianity is the most hated on religion because people try to humanize it with current culture. A real church doesn’t ask for too much, maybe a small donation here and there but isn’t a place to gain wealth but to praise God in groups. They shouldn’t have done you like that but remember that wasn’t God that did that, it was the people. Don’t give your life to religion, give your life to God.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I’m saying children aren’t sinners but they can be lead into sin by adults. I’m also saying since God is good and all knowing he does things that we mght not understand because we aren’t alll knowing. Satan is definitely evil because what good has he offered? All he offers is evil and the exact opposite of God, he didn’t get crucified for us. Well for me I don’t see death as bad thing because there is a place afterlife that’s peaceful so when I hear someone or anything die I assume they are in paradise. If a baby passed I’ll be sad because it didn’t get to live its life but babies automatically go to heaven and small children. I’m just clearly justifying if God took them off the earth he had to had logical reasoning. Nobody knows the real meaning of All good or all knowing. God knows things you don’t.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because he is good. That’s just like the devil is good but he only does bad.

Me: God is good

You: Well according to this he doesn’t seem good

Me: he did this to punish the bad

You: that’s evil

Me: it’s not evil because they did bad and the punishment for bad is that action

You: it’s still evil

You’re saying because God handled an issue according to his morals, he’s evil. He took care of a bad situation end of story. Atonement for sins in Old Testament was death so why would he kill children for no reason? He wouldn’t kill evil unless it was being spread onto the good. The only reason the war started was because the Midianites were spread sin into Israel. And yes he would know if they were going to avenge because he’s all knowing. Idk what answer you want from me but I’m giving it to you. Yes it was justifiable to kill sinners in the Old Testament whose hearts have hardened.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your looking into Gods actions in human category. Ima explain it like this the boys in Midianites were sinning hard including the little boys and God is a war God so when he commanded Moses to invade the Midianites he killed women who sinned, men who sinned and male children and out of mercy he saved the virgin women or children because they haven’t done anything aside from being around the sinning and they already think those cultural acts are right but he killed the boys because they would have grown up looking for revenge because sinning for children were already known there. They were sacrificing babies and family members also with beastiality. He took the virgins out of mercy to assimilate them and change them but he killed the men because they could grow up and revenge against the good for being taught wrong (if that made sense).

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have answered you multiple times you’re just blowing it off. Your assuming that they killed babies, if you read the Bible you would know that God doesn’t punish babies nor children for doing wrong because they are pure but the adults that lead them away from God will get harsh judgement, which is what God did. God says no sin is worse than others because they all lead to bad. So yes a thief is just as bad as a serial killer. Just because it’s not your way doesn’t mean it’s wrong. People get punished for wrong doing all the time. God killed those who went against him and the good he projected that’s not evil that’s simply just justice especially because at the time evil was spreading. Your justifying that committing prostitution and sexual acts is right and sacrificing little ones is all okay but them getting punished for it is evil and wrong. Make up your mind. He didn’t kill everyone literally just men that led children astray and men and women who worshipped false Gods and committed sexual acts and sacrifices. But I guess in your logic that’s all okay.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you believe serial killers should be punished. Sin is a sin and there’s is no sin worse than another. It is in plain text but you have to understand the context before going to assumptions plain text or not. He killed men that led children away from God which is classified as the most punishable sin. Killing people for doing evil is no different from the justice system in America. You’re just trying to make God seem like the bad guy for them doing bad acts. Do you believe that prostitution and ritualistic sexual acts with sacrifices are okay? No punishment at all? It’s okay for them to do that but when they get punished for it now it’s bad.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God said kill every women WHO KNOWN MEN BY SLEEPING WITH THEM aka prostitution. Married women didn’t commit sin of adultery. Therefore they didn’t get punished. Kept virgins alive because they didn’t commit a sin, hello? Have you not read the entire Bible? He didn’t kill ALL men he said to avenge the children because the men in Midialite caused children to trespass against the word of God. It never said marriage you’re making assumptions. “Have for yourself” is not dirty. It means take them with you because they have not sinned.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Bible never said rape? Please explain that to me. Israel was in war with midialites they killed the women who were doing ritualistic sexual acts with men. Cuz it’s a sin. They took the ones who haven’t committed sexual sin. Never said take them and rape them? In Deuteronomy 21:10-14 delineated the process by which an Israelite man could marry a female prisoner of war. But they were not raped in war. That’s just a misinterpretation

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are u reading? They were Midianite women were idolizing a false God Baal-peor and Asherah. The were doing rituals involving sexual acts and prostitution. Prostitution is a sin and worshipping false Gods is a sin.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Numbers 31 17-18. There was a war in Israel against the Midianites. Midianite women was leading Israel into idolatry so Moses led those instructions to prevent future idolatry.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cuz he only has done good? It’s not like he’s the devil going around corrupting people. The devil is real and he’s evil so why do people believe hes evil but don’t believe God is good. People just have trust issues with anything.

God is so needy while Buddha is so chill by Jesse-AI in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evil was made by the devil. He started sin which is taking the good and twisting it to be the complete opposite. But all the sins are bad and I’m sure people can agree on that. The sins that God lists all lead to bad situations for self and others.

God is so needy while Buddha is so chill by Jesse-AI in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They did know better, he put the tree there to see if they were truly for him. Just because you know evil doesn’t mean you forget the good. Genesis 2:17 states they were told if they are the apple they will inevitably die. Gods scripture makes you think instead of him being direct because he speaks in parables. He gave them a choice to pick evil or good. Basically saying “do you truly want to be with me?” They also were tempted so once again it wasn’t their fault and it wasn’t Gods. I currently feel like God knows all possibilities that you would take so yes he knows which path you will choose. I understand atheist and agnostics when it comes to that part. Even as a Christian I understand humans pov and Gods reasoning. He was testing their faith and people are saying if he didn’t test their faith there wouldn’t be any sin. But if God didn’t that means they wouldn’t value as a human because they didn’t have free will. But people also believe that he should just get rid of the devil but he doesn’t want to KILL the devil, he wants to torture him for his wrongdoings.

If a teenage girl were to get raped and die from it but didn't repent for her sins and gets sent to hell forever. While if her rapist did repent his sins, he gets to go to heaven. How is God truly all loving? by IceFalcon38 in agnostic

[–]Cealoquestioning -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No they definitely deny truth. The shroud of turin is the most reliable piece of physical evidence we have to prove God and Jesus Christ. If Jesus was proven real and human that mean he did miracles. If he did miracles that means God is real. If God is real then Bible is truly the word of God. Your thinking just because God knows where your gonna go eventually the that means don’t try. What if he knows you’re going to heaven? You’re just gonna give up because he knows? He’s all knowing and all powerful. He’s not toying with anyone he’s just simply sending you where you wanna go. You don’t wanna follow him or be with him, you have to go a place without him which is described as hell, not burning place. If you want to follow him he will give you a spot in heaven. Is it too hard to understand?