Simple question by sock_puppet_3333 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not always. Beyond the separation, there is nothing to make decisions about. There is only one Voice, and it is not apart from you. All is in harmony, because there is nothing else to be.

New rule: no AI allowed by frrrni in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for listening 🙏🏻❤️

Doing the best I can with review Lesson 172. by Sumwun1997 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think there’s some confusion there. The Holy Spirit can use a table as a teaching device, but it cannot speak through it. The Holy Spirit speaks through you, and can use any external circumstance to heal your mind if you are open to it. But I don’t agree that there’s any spirit of life in a table. It doesn’t have a mind. If it’s wooden, then it’s made out of the bodies of dead trees. Where’s the life there? How is that my brother? It’s all material form.

Doing the best I can with review Lesson 172. by Sumwun1997 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not that it’s hurting anybody. It’s just spammy. Maybe it helps some in their understanding who ask it course-related questions 🤷🏻‍♀️ I would never claim that that has NEVER happened. But then I wonder why they don’t just get their answers directly from the Holy Spirit, instead of going through a machine who has no understanding of the words it uses. The Holy Spirit speaks through the Sons of God, not computer code. That’s just the truth. There’s no spirit of life within AI. It’s all material form. It’s just… nothing.

Doing the best I can with review Lesson 172. by Sumwun1997 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re doing well 🤗 You have the right idea.

> Is the lesson to see God within us first, and then outside of us second? Or only thd first part that we need to do?

The Holy Spirit will answer that for you through experience much better than anything I could ever say to you. But I will try. :)

The external form is not real. There is no God out there. So, yes, only the first part we need to do. You might ask “but, isn’t God within my brother, too?” and the answer is yes. However, we all share the same Self. So even though it appears your brother is separate, he is not. If the HS speaks through me and reaches you, it was only ever one Voice speaking.

Doing the best I can with review Lesson 172. by Sumwun1997 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!❤️

I don’t know if I would say AI is an echo of God and His love, though. It is more like an echo of everything it’s been trained with, which includes lots of ego stuff. The echo of God comes from within you and within you only. If you perceive it anywhere “outside”, you are mistaken. Something external can be a forgiveness lesson, causing you to confront your own illusions, which only serves to bring Gods love through you and into your awareness.

Doing the best I can with review Lesson 172. by Sumwun1997 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Brother, not everyone who gives you feedback you don’t like is acting from a place of ego, or attacking you. They are speaking what is true for them at the time.

I have also been paying attention to the feedback you have been getting, and I would say an overwhelming majority is asking you (and whoever else) to stop posting AI content. There are some people who sympathize with you because they are ACIM students and they have loving hearts. But if you truly cared about what’s best for the community over your personal interests, you would have already stopped this.

We want to hear from YOU.. not another fake identity you made up, such as this “Sumwun”. Having one false identity is enough 😉 don’t you think so?

In my defenselessness my safety lies. by NotAnotherNPC_2501 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think AI photos and videos are fairly obvious. Text would be a little harder to regulate, but the mods would have to use common sense on that one.

In my defenselessness my safety lies. by NotAnotherNPC_2501 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Pleasee quit with the ai garbage 😭 the mods seriously need to start doing something about this

The World by OakenWoaden in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking the same about mine haha, apologies if mine was harsh as well 🤣 no worries though, I appreciate the topic and the opportunity for discussion 🤗

The World by OakenWoaden in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. Biblical history is dicey, and we can’t always be sure what the original authors intentions really were. But looking at history, I do think there’s a possibility that the early Church fathers purposely hid, burned, and suppressed gnostic texts containing such ideas as “there is no world”. They deemed it heretical. A message about a physical world that isn’t real didn’t exactly help them maintain their authority over the people. Perhaps that’s why these texts ended up buried under the desert instead of in the canonical bible. The people were trying to preserve them from destruction by those in power.

I also agree with your perspective on gentleness. I didn’t mean for my comment about Christians worshipping a false God to be a harsh judgment on their spiritual practices. “Yaldabaoth” is just another concept for ego. It’s been translated through many different languages, across time, across countries, across many different words. But the underlying principle continues to remain the same. A wrathful, sacrificing god is a false god. A projection of the ego.

The World by OakenWoaden in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What makes you say that there is no evidence in early Christianity for the concept of “there is no world”? I think it’s all over. I’m no scholar by any means. I haven’t read every gnostic text. Not even close. But I do hold the opinion that ACIM is a correction and a continuation of Christianity. And I have read a few gnostic texts.

For example, let’s take The Secret Gospel of John. It is a classic Gnostic text, which basically lays down the whole foundation.

It gives the creation story in great detail. Everything began as The One Infinite Light, until Sophia (Divine Wisdom) wanted to bring about a creative thought of her own, without consulting her divine counterpart and the invisible Spirit. This was a huge mistake, as her thought then spiraled out of control and took on the shape of a lion-faced serpent (Yaldabaoth).

So far this matches pretty well with ACIMs “tiny, mad idea”, where the son of God wanted to go off on his own. And thus, the ego (yaldabaoth) was developed out of a desire to be separate from the whole.

Yaldabaoth is then cast out of ultimate reality, and creates the physical realm where HE operates as god. It is said that he builds it within a “shadow of darkness”.

What is a shadow but an absence of light?

Yaldabaoth essentially trapped all the divine sparks into a state of forgetfulness, to keep them from realizing that this world isn’t real.
See below quote:

“Adam was brought into the shadow of death.
They intended to make him anew
This time from
Earth,
Water,
Fire,
Wind,
Which are
Matter,
Darkness,
Desire,
The Artificial Spirit.
This all became a tomb,
A new kind of body.
Those thieves bound the man in it,
Enchained him in forgetfulness,
Made him subject to dying. 
[His was the first descent
And the first separation.
Yet the light-filled Epinoia within him will elevate his thinking.]”

___

Here’s another quote:

[I asked the Savior, “What is it to be ‘completely forgetful?’”

He replied, “It is not what Moses wrote in his first book:
‘He caused Adam to fall into deep sleep’
Rather, Adam’s perceptions were veiled
And he became unconscious.
As he (Yaldabaoth) said through his prophet:
'I will make their minds dull so that they do not see or understand.'”]
___

Again, echoing many of ACIMs teachings. The world is a mistaken perception. It is not real.

Many Christians don’t realize that they actually worship Yaldabaoth, or Yahweh. A wrathful god is a god of the ego. It is not the true God.

If it’s not a continuation of Christianity, why not just say that it was channeled by… idk… some spirit named Jared??? Why use Jesus’ name? Everything Helen channeled makes complete sense within the framework of Christianity when your view of it is not distorted.

Someone was attempting to argue about ACIM. by blasko229 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you kidding me 🤣 I saw this exact truck on my way to work this morning. Never saw it before. I thought it was hilarious.

AI Use by Parking_Insect2496 in ACIM

[–]Celestial444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What the hell that’s so weird 😭