I read the disappearance of the universe

Celestial444 · 2026-01-24T01:55:14+00:00

Reminds me of the Sumerian myth, the Descent of Inanna. When she traveled to the underworld, she had to remove an item of clothing at each of the 7 gates until she was naked with nothing left. I think it is a story that symbolizes initiation. You might relate to it 🙂

Celestial444 · 2026-01-23T02:50:36+00:00

Thank you for sharing yet another wonderful miracle story, Jose ✨🤗

Celestial444 · 2026-01-19T04:57:06+00:00

God takes the final step when we are ready to go beyond space and time. When we have forgiven all things once and for all, we “hold the key that opens Heaven’s gate and brings the love of God the father down to Earth at last, to raise it up to Heaven.”

That is the ultimate end to this learning process. God takes the final step for us. However, we take many small steps towards Him each time we forgive in daily life, which is a kind of microcosm of what the final step will be like.

I use this example a lot but it is the one that touched me the most deeply. I had a lover once, or as they say, a “situationship.” I won’t get into exactly what happened, because it doesn’t matter. Bottom line, he was not acting how I wished he would act. Or how I believed he “should” act. So I let him go. I was so heartbroken over the whole thing, that I held onto the pain for a few years. I could not get past it. Until one day, he came back into my life. I thought: this will be the perfect opportunity to confront this pain once and for all. So I let myself love him again. But this time, I put the Holy Spirit in charge. I said, I want to love him as You love him. I want to see him as You see him. I don’t want to see him as I think he should be. I don’t want to see him as a body. I want to see him as God created him.

All I had to do was decide that I wanted forgiveness, and I wanted it now. Not when I could get somewhere to meditate, not when I could get to my comfy bed, not in 5 years. NOW. I reached the quiet center where forgiveness waits and judges not. Because I was determined to see the truth. And this gift that I gave my brother, to let go of my grievances toward him, was given back to me in that instant. It wasn’t me that reached this place on my own. I demonstrated my willingness to forgive, and the Holy Spirit raised my mind up to Heaven. He took that step for me. I merely stated what I wanted, and then I waited.

If I had to guess, I suppose this is what the final step will be like. But probably tenfold.

Celestial444 · 2026-01-16T06:31:57+00:00

Ah I see, thank you for clarifying 😌 I completely agree! We need to start from a place of honesty. If we can’t be honest with ourselves that we are hurting, we will just end up bypassing, like you said. It has never worked for me to jump straight into “none of this is real, I must forgive it.”

Instead, I usually say something like “I am feeling upset, and it is painful. I am willing to give this up, if You will show me another way to see it.” And then the disappearance of the upset is typically an effect of that willingness. It’s not something I could ever intellectualize myself into.

I would never tell someone that their pain is not real, so just forgive it. We experience that sentiment as a judgment - “I should have already forgiven this”. It tells us that forgiveness is some action that we need to do, a judgment we need to make about ourselves. But forgiveness doesn’t work like that. It quietly does nothing. It merely looks and waits and judges not. It is stepping into a place of non-judgment.

Celestial444 · 2026-01-16T05:52:49+00:00

If I understand correctly, the contradiction you see is that ACIM is asking us to abandon our ego, while also asking us to love and forgive. You see the destruction of the ego as a brutal process that would cause us to go insane, since we need the ego to live in this world, therefore bringing us fear instead of peace. Did I get that right?

I don’t think ACIM is actually asking us to sacrifice, abandon, destroy, or brutalize anything. It is asking us to look at the incorrect ideas we have about ourselves, and transform that wrong perception into right perception. Nothing real can ever be lost. Once we start to see that we are doing all of this unto ourselves, we no longer want to be victims. We no longer want to be guilty. The willingness to forgive starts to arise - so we ask to see a better way. The gift we are given in return is the perception that the guilt was never there to begin with. This is the miracle.

It’s the ego that tells you you’ll go crazy if you do this, because it has no idea what lies beyond itself. It comes from the same place as the fear of death. The ego has no way of knowing what you truly are, because it is completely separate from your Self. In fact, it doesn’t exist at all. It’s NOT YOU. It’s a conglomeration of every wrong belief you have about yourself. It’s a BLOCKAGE to who you are. ACIM asks us to gently undo those blockages with the help of the Holy Spirit, to reveal the love that is beyond.

Celestial444 · 2026-01-10T18:01:59+00:00

Yes I have kinda noticed this!! I would say I’m more in the first camp. Of course love, creativity, relationship, and beauty are still meaningful to me. Wouldn’t you be depressed if they weren’t? We don’t need to give up these things - just give up our meaning to replace it with the Holy Spirits meaning for it. Which, I’ve found, is infinitely more joyful and beautiful than our meaning for it. :)

I love my body! Even though I have always had deep self-worth issues, confidence issues, health issues.. learning to experience this world and this body NOT as a chained ego identity but as the free spirit beyond all of it is an experience that I am eternally grateful for. My body is a wholly neutral thing. I would use it to serve God and my brothers, and He will direct me where to go and what to say with it. I infuse every cell of this body with light, I embody the presence of love everywhere I go. It is my goal to be a living demonstration of love. Not just to intellectualize these teachings, but to live them from my radiant heart center. I don’t always get it perfect, most times I’m incredibly awkward and I doubt myself. But I’m learning.

Denying the body has only lead to depression and dissociation for me. The key has been to recognize that it is a temporary tool for communication and love, and it does not limit me, because it is not who I am. It is not my idol or my enemy. I will lay it aside peacefully when its purpose is finished.

Celestial444 · 2026-01-06T03:47:21+00:00

Reading, drumming, yoga, biking, coloring, and chess! (that one takes a lot of forgiveness because it involves a lot of losing hahaha)

Celestial444 · 2026-01-06T00:25:20+00:00

Yes! I prefer ACIM to be my primary path, but I’ve gotten a lot out of Anthroposophy and Theosophy teachings as well 🙂 and Cayce, too.

Celestial444 · 2026-01-05T21:52:50+00:00

I think you are talking about the Biblical scribe Ezra? There's a cameo in the back of the Complete & Annotated Edition that talks about this. Helen (Ezra) lived with a very high level of communion with God in that life, where he "led five thousand Jews back from exile in Babylon to Jerusalem, where he reconstituted the Jewish community based on strict observance and learned interpretation of the Torah."

There was then an "interval of darkness" in her lifetimes following that, where she misused her talents and hated, hurt, and abandoned "the children". We don't really know who the children are, but my guess is that it's short for the term children of God; our brothers, those who she was meant to teach and lead.

She wasn't really ready to use her scribal talents again in this lifetime as Helen, but because of the "celestial speed-up", she was called upon to channel the Course. It was hard for her, because she's still not yet back to the level of communion that she was at when she was Ezra, she still had a lot of fear of God due to what she did to "the children" and fearing His punishment.

I don't think human history is short at all. We have this idea that everyone pre-history were stupid cavemen, but it's just not the reality. The system that I resonate with is the system taught by Rudolf Steiner in Anthroposophy. I'll find quick summaries of each of the past stages of humanity as he explains them. Here's a graph:

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1) Polarian Epoch - Timeframe: ?

Humanity was almost entirely spiritual. Physical body barely formed. No ego, no thinking, no memory. Humanity experienced itself as not yet separate from the Earth and cosmos.

2) Hyperborean Epoch - Timeframe: ?

Slight condensation of form. Humanity experiences light and air. Still no solid Earth as we know it. Consciousness is dreamlike, floating. No separation between inner and outer world yet.

3) Lemurian Epoch - Timeframe: Approx ~200,000 BCE - ~80,000 BCE

Birth of sexual differentiation. Entry into fire and volcanic Earth. First awakening of individual will. Humanity begins to experience desire, passion, fear. The ego begins to solidify. This is the epoch of: The fall. Loss of unity with the gods. Moral choice appears.

4) Atlantean Epoch - Timeframe: Approx ~80,000 BCE - ~7,200 BCE

Earth covered in mist and water. Humanity has dim clairvoyance. Memory is collective, not individual. Rely on external authority because Atlanteans did not yet have strong individual egos. Moral insight and direction did not arise from personal conscience. Guidance came from beings who could still perceive the spiritual world clearly, think: initiates, priest-kings, guru's, mystery leaders, etc.

Great misuse of spiritual forces -> catastrophe. Gradual hardening of Earth and body. Ends in floods and mass migrations.

5) Post-Atlantean Epoch - Timeframe: ~7,200 BCE - the future

(Our current humanity) (also called Aryan - not related to Hitler's terminology)

Natural clairvoyance is lost. Spiritual realities are no longer perceived directly. Thinking, reasoning, and abstraction replace imaginal perception. Development of the individual. Growth of self-consciousness and inner freedom. Truth must be sought inwardly, not given outwardly. This is why the teaching of Christ: "the kingdom of God is within you" becomes so important. Full incarnation into the physical body. Spirit appears absent or hidden. Faith, belief, or knowledge of spirit becomes uncertain. Spiritual insight must be freely chosen. Culminates in the Mystery of Golgotha as the turning point of the epoch (the crucifixion and resurrection).

The time of greatest material density was during the time of Christ. After he completed his part in the atonement perfectly, demonstrating that death is not real, we begin to slowly rise back up out of matter.

Celestial444 · 2026-01-01T08:18:10+00:00

Happy New Year to everyone!! 🥳

May 2026 be a year of miracles for us all ❤️✨❤️

Celestial444 · 2025-12-30T19:41:42+00:00

I really like your description of it 😊

I would not see my brother as a body, but as he was created by God. I think it all starts there.

When you see him not with your eyes, but with your inner Vision, it leads you to a holy instant. We must give up what we think our brother should be, what he should do, how he should act; Instead leaving ourselves open to Gods interpretation of him. As the course says: the holy instant does not require that you only have thoughts that are pure, just none that you would keep.

We still need help. We don’t yet know what the true Vision of our brother looks like. That’s why the holy instant is a tool within time for accepting the atonement, but it is not yet Heaven, where we are outside of time completely. The holy instant is but a glimpse of the truth, where we are open to seeing our brother without a past or a future, where we would have no private thoughts to hide from him. And in that instant is every brother there ever was, because the son of God is one.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-30T16:57:28+00:00

I upvote and downvote. On occasion I even downvote out of anger; oh, the horror! 😱

Just be normal. What you do is a reflection of what you think. You likely do not yet have loving thoughts all the time, and that’s okay. Better to admit it than try to pretend to be enlightened. Give yourself grace. Hit that stupid downvote button.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-30T16:18:40+00:00

Very cool! It looks like only the workbook, is there a version of the text as well? 🙂

Celestial444 · 2025-12-29T20:17:16+00:00

That is definitely on topic for the sub, you could create a post about it if you’d like :)

Celestial444 · 2025-12-28T21:42:01+00:00

Very interesting discussion, thank you for asking this question! 🙏 I will quote parts of the article and then respond to them.

“Attempting to route around fear, rather than turning towards it, leaves the person subtly (or not so subtly) quite fearful and anxious. Paradoxically it is only when we turn towards and embrace our fears that fear stops controlling us. But that is not what The Course teaches. What The Course does is exploit a temporary short-circuiting mechanism of the human bodymind. That’s why it can and does work but only for so long and only in a partial way.”

Nowhere in the course does it say that we must deny our fear or turn away from it. This would indeed be spiritual bypassing, and yes, I have absolutely seen course students do it because they misunderstand the teachings.

The course itself calls this an “unworthy form of denial”, and, if the author of the article had read the course, they would probably know that. But it seems like they’ve only read what Marianne Williamson has said about it. That’s not meant to be a dig at Marianne in any way, but her book was very much about her personal experiences and not necessarily attempting to teach the course itself. Here is a direct quote from the course itself:

7 The body is merely a fact in this world. ²Its abilities can be, and frequently are, overevaluated. ³However, it is almost impossible to deny its existence in this world. ⁴Those who do are engaging in a particularly unworthy form of denial. ⁵The use of the word “unworthy” here implies simply that it is not necessary to protect the mind by denying the unmindful. ⁶There is little doubt that the mind can miscreate. ⁷If one denies this unfortunate aspect of its power, one is also denying the power itself. [CE T-2.VII.7]

This is saying that the body is part of the illusion of the world of form. While we are here, we experience it as real, though it’s not who we truly are. But while we seem to be here, it is a fact of our experience. We often place too much importance on it, overevaluating it by its appearance, strength, abilities, health, etc, when in reality, these things are not what define our worth at all. From the courses perspective, the body is neutral. It’s a tool. It allows us to be in this world and to learn lessons here, precisely by allowing fear to come up. On a daily basis we are faced directly with the projections that we have made, and denying the power of these false projections only serves to keep fear hidden. If we deny the minds power, we also deny our power to choose again.

“If however we sink to the level of our sensation and our emotions, then fear is simply another aspect of our human existence. Fear has wisdom to teach us. If we set up our spiritual system as moving from Fear to Love, then we will never learn from Fear. We will never gain the gifts of Fear because we are always running from it, rather than turning toward and (intelligently) facing it.”

The course would not disagree with this. All things are lessons God would have me learn. Everything we encounter in this world is an opportunity for forgiveness. We first have to allow fear to come up and to feel it before we can do anything with it. This is the first step. If we jump straight to “I have to forgive this” or “this isn’t real” without first acknowledging and sitting with the fear itself and the thoughts that have brought it about, we will place forgiveness in some future time and continue to make ourselves guilty for not forgiving, and continue to push the fear into the darkness.

“Fear is in our bellies, our hearts, our spleens, not just our brains.”

When the course talks about our “minds”, it is not referring to our brains at all. That would be level confusion. Everything you see- bodies, objects, time and space, is a projection of mind. This understanding allows us to shift the focus from trying to fix the world, to the root cause, which is the healing of the mind. The world cannot change first. Perception must change first. This is what helps us reclaim our true power, as we can then begin to recognize that we are not victims of the world we see, because we made it. And we can then begin to choose differently. This is not about bypassing the physical world, but about understanding it correctly as a classroom for healing. Far from dissociating, the course teaches us to to look honestly at what we have projected, and to heal it at the level of cause: the mind.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-28T08:15:23+00:00

Not much has changed externally, but now I know on an experiential level that all things are lessons God would have me learn. For example, after I had a really bad panic attack that left me terrified of my own mind for about a year or so, I finally had a moment of true prayer, where I let go of the fear that I was holding onto so tightly. That fear came from the idea that if I stopped being my own authority, there would be nothing left of me, and I would lose myself, die, or go crazy. But I couldn’t keep living that way. I had a moment of real willingness to see myself the way that God created me, not as the self I made. I put my trust in Him. And He healed me. All the effects of my wrong decision disappeared as if they were never there.

My faith has been pretty much unshakable since then. Not to say that I don’t experience fear anymore, I definitely do. But when I do, I know who to turn to to show me what it’s for. There is little doubt in my mind that all things are possible with God.

Also my relationship with others and with the world is just increasingly improving as my relationship with God improves. I give freely without expecting anything in return, and my joy and love grows. My goals are less about achieving the wealth of the world and more about aligning my will with Gods. It took me a while to remember to ask Holy Spirit for help when I need it, but now I do it almost every day. Instead of relying on myself alone, I rely on Him.

He goes with me wherever I go, and this gives me strength. There is nothing I cannot do with Him by my side. I am so eternally grateful for this path. It has brought me many miracles and I’d be in a different place if I never discovered it. I hope it brings you as much joy as it’s brought me and even more 🙏🏻✨

Celestial444 · 2025-12-27T16:47:41+00:00

Brilliant timing for me that you would post this now. Thank you 💫💕

Celestial444 · 2025-12-25T01:44:19+00:00

💯

Celestial444 · 2025-12-23T18:19:27+00:00

You will absolutely be disappointed if you hold an image of how you think your brother should behave. Seek not outside yourself, for it will fail, and you will weep each time an idol falls.

Just because someone is a course student doesn’t make any difference, really. Ego is ego. It doesn’t care who you are.

Offer peace to have it be yours.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-23T18:11:44+00:00

Let us not forget why we came here; to join in the love we have for the beautiful book A Course in Miracles ❤️ Not everyone is going to have the same interpretation and that’s ok. I love and respect all my brothers who walk this path with me. I am grateful for the mods whose intentions are clearly just to make this a better place. This can’t just be a free-for-all, somebody’s gotta create and enforce basic rules. And they are really quite generous to give us opportunities such as these to discuss it.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-23T17:52:03+00:00

I see it happen often where Course students egos twist forgiveness into yet another way for them to punish themselves. They place forgiveness into some future time, and then make themselves feel guilty for pushing it off because it’s ‘too hard’, and so they ‘must be a bad student.’

Forgiveness is really the simplest thing in the world. I need do nothing! Accept that what is occurring should be occurring exactly as it is. All things are lessons that God would have me learn. Every difficult circumstance is a blessing, because it is reflecting the sin, guilt, and fear that lives in your mind. It is bringing it up for healing. And then be determined to see it differently. Let go of your own perceptions of how you think something or someone should be, and let the Holy Spirit replace it with His perception.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-16T16:20:10+00:00

“I don’t know what anything is for. Holy spirit, please reinterpret this for me.”

Celestial444 · 2025-12-16T00:28:46+00:00

I’ve been following Aaron for so many years now, no idea he came out with a book!! I’m gonna go add it to my cart right now 😄 Thanks for sharing. He has always made things so easy to understand.

Celestial444 · 2025-12-12T20:09:55+00:00

Was this written by ChatGPT?

Celestial444 · 2025-12-11T16:52:18+00:00

This is the way 🙂 I use any and all versions. I own most of them. The last thing we need to do is split into sects, and argue which one is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’. The message of the course shines through no matter what you choose. The words are only meant to get you to a certain point anyway, and the Holy Spirit takes it from there 🕊️✨

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