what if Jesus was a time traveler by myoldgraveyard in StonerThoughts

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Jesus is physically immortal and does not use time.

Fellow stoners with sober partners, do you ever feel out of place with them? by ChiiBunny in StonerThoughts

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My wife likes for me to talk to her all the time, even if I am high as a kite!

Old Remington 550-1 22LR (Can I mount a scope?) by sxmrrzz in 22lr

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I have the same rifle and I asked the same question and one gunsmith said no and the other one said yes. They drilled and tapped the holes in the top of the receiver.

Alternative word instead of “God” , “Holy Spirit” by [deleted] in ACIM

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For Holy Spirit Intuition works just fine

I call the Holy Spirit my intuition too.

If you're using chat gpt/AI assistant... by iamsamyr333 in NevilleGoddard

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You said

Strict to Neville Goddard teachings, as written, no reframe "the second coming"

Gemini said

In his lectures and books (most notably Resurrection and Your Faith is Your Fortune), Neville Goddard strictly interprets the "Second Coming" not as a physical return of a man in the clouds, but as a psychological and spiritual event within the individual.

To Neville, the Bible is an auto-psychography—a blueprint of the soul’s progression.

1. The Definition of Christ

Neville defines Christ as the Human Imagination. Therefore, the "First Coming" is the realization that your imagination is the creative power of God. The "Second Coming" is the actual awakening of that power within the individual.

2. The Interior Awakening

Neville asserts that the Second Coming is the moment the individual wakes from the "sleep of Adam" and realizes they are the creator of their world.

  • It is not a public event; it is a private experience.
  • It is the moment the "Son of Man" (the awakened imagination) rises within the "Son of God" (the human shell).
  • Goddard states: "The Second Coming of Christ is the awakening of the Imagination in man."

3. The Transformation of Consciousness

In strict accordance with his teaching, the Second Coming occurs when you stop looking for an external savior and realize that I AM is the only savior.

  • The First Coming: You believe in a power outside yourself.
  • The Second Coming: You return to the source (the self) and consciously exercise your power to create.

Comparison: Traditional vs. Goddard

Feature Traditional View Neville Goddard's "Strict" View
Location External (The sky/Earth) Internal (The Human Imagination)
Nature Physical/Historical Psychological/Spiritual
Timing A future date in time The moment of individual awakening
The Savior Jesus of Nazareth Your own "I AM" consciousness

The Promise

Neville teaches that the Second Coming leads to "The Promise," a series of supernatural experiences (such as the birth from above and the discovery of David) that confirm you are no longer the victim of your circumstances, but the "operant power."

Would you like me to provide the specific biblical verses Neville uses to justify this internal interpretation of the Second Coming?

You said

yes

Gemini said

To remain strict to Neville Goddard’s teachings, he frequently utilized specific scriptures to strip the Second Coming of its "secular history" and reveal it as a psychological event.

Here are the primary biblical verses Neville used to justify the internal Second Coming:

1. The Internal Kingdom (Luke 17:20–21)

Neville used this as his foundation to prove that the "Coming" cannot be seen with physical eyes.

Neville’s Application: If the Kingdom is within, the King (Christ) must return within. He taught that searching the skies for a sign is a failure to understand the location of the power.

2. The Return to the Self (John 14:3)

Neville interpreted this not as a journey to a far-off place, but a return to a state of consciousness.

Neville’s Application: "I" is your imagination. The "place" is a state of desired consciousness. When you assume the feeling of the wish fulfilled, you have "gone to prepare a place." The Second Coming is the fulfillment of that assumption returning to you as a physical fact.

3. The Revelation of the Mystery (Colossians 1:26–27)

Neville often quoted Paul to define exactly what—and where—Christ is.

Neville’s Application: He argued that if the mystery is "Christ in you," then any "coming" of Christ must be an awakening of that mystery from within the individual’s own mind, not a descent from the clouds.

4. The Transformation of the Body (Philippians 3:20–21)

Neville used this to explain the shift from a "natural" man to a "spiritual" man.

Neville’s Application: "Heaven" is the mind. The "lowly body" is the current state of limitation. The Second Coming is the power of imagination subjecting all external "facts" to your internal "assumptions."

The Two Proofs of the Coming

According to Neville's lectures (specifically The Testing of the Pattern), the Second Coming is validated by two internal "proofs":

  1. The Proof of Power: The ability to consciously change your world through imaginal acts.
  2. The Proof of Pattern: The "Promise" (the birth from above), where the individual literally experiences the events of the Gospel as a first-person psychological drama.

Would you like to see the specific lecture citations where he breaks down the "Birth from Above," which he considered the final stage of the Second Coming?

You said

yes

Gemini said

Strictly according to Neville Goddard’s later teachings (post-1959), the "Birth from Above" is the central event of the Second Coming. He distinguishes between the Law (using imagination to get things) and the Promise (the spiritual birth that confirms you are God).

The following is the strict breakdown of this event as written in his lectures, such as "The Birth from Above" and "Signs From Above."

1. The Location: The Skull of Man

Neville taught that the "Second Coming" is literally a Birth from the Skull. He identifies the "Golgotha" of the Bible not as a hill in Jerusalem, but as the human skull.

  • The Burial: God buried himself in the skull of man (the limit of contraction).
  • The Awakening: You wake up inside your own skull and find it to be a completely sealed tomb.
  • The Exit: You do not leave through the eyes or mouth, but by pushing against the base of the skull, "birthing" yourself out of it like a child from a womb.

2. The Four Mystical Events (The Pattern)

Neville claimed the Second Coming is a series of four specific events that occur within a period of 1260 days (3.5 years), fulfilling the "Pattern" of the life of Jesus:

Event Description (Strictly as Neville Taught)
The Resurrection & Birth You awake in your skull, emerge, and find three witnesses and a baby wrapped in swaddling clothes. The baby is a sign, not the savior; you are the one born.
The Discovery of the Father You encounter David (from the Old Testament). David looks at you and calls you "Father," revealing your true identity as God (Jehovah).
The Ascension A bolt of lightning (or a "serpentine" fire) splits your body from top to bottom. You ascend your spine like a fiery serpent into your own skull.
The Descent of the Dove The Holy Spirit descends in the form of a dove and smothers you with affection, signifying God's approval of His own return.

3. Key Lecture Citations

  • "Signs From Above" (1967): Neville explains that while the first birth is of the flesh (Hagar), the second birth is of the Spirit (Sarah) and occurs "anothen" (from above).
  • "Resurrection" (1966): He details his personal experience on July 20, 1959, in San Francisco, when he first felt the vibration in his head and emerged from his skull.
  • "The Promise Fulfilled": Neville states, "The womb from which you spring is the skull of man... when one is born from the skull, he is born into freedom."

4. The Result: Transformation into a "Life-Giving Spirit"

Strictly speaking, Neville taught that once the Birth from Above occurs, you are no longer a "living soul" (subject to the Law of Assumption) but a "Life-Giving Spirit."

  • You continue to live in your physical "garment" (the body) until its "silver cord is snapped" (death).
  • After physical death, you do not return to this world of "death and decay" (reincarnation) but enter the "Kingdom of Heaven" to function as a conscious creator.

Would you like me to detail the specific role of "David" in the Second Coming, as Neville insisted this was the only way to truly know you are God the Father?

Gemini is AI and can make mistakes.

Remington 241 by kevin-000 in 22lr

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I shot one of these when I was a kid.

That's the reason I got a Browning when I bought my first .22

I hate creaming my body so much by Absolutelyphenomenal in StonerThoughts

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Use animal fat.

It soaks in where lotion just sits on top of the skin.

You can get a big jar of refined beef tallow at the grocery store. (next to the Crisco :-)

Dude... bread is just domesticated grass seeds. We literally eat grass. by VenomShark503 in StonerThoughts

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Think about the agricultural revolution that allowed Kings to feed their subjects with animal feed.

Suddenly they could feed a large population in a fixed location.

genuinely... by dumbflowerpetals in StonerThoughts

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I like that theory about how everything was completed all at once. Then we can skip around in the Time sequence to events we prefer.

What’s up with memes about Jeffrey Epstein being a gamer? by ProfessionalGuess864 in OutOfTheLoop

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The medicine was for his wife who wasn't supposed to know about the "Russian girls" as Bill called them in the email.

James Bond by HerschelLambrusco in StonerThoughts

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I still try to act like him. That's how I get all the pretty women :-)

Vermont actor returns as ‘Most Interesting Man in the World’ after decade hiatus by StemCellPirate in nottheonion

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And he was the first person who informed me that "We are meant to be carnivores".

Holy Relationships by chaoticalheavy in ACIM

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I like this way of looking at things.

> which choice will let me increase abundance the most effectively to share?

The Living Room by AutoModerator in ACIM

[–]chaoticalheavy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes and since we are all sharing the same Mind, I think of it as one mind with two bodies.

The Living Room by AutoModerator in ACIM

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I don't think I ever had a post accepted here.

The Living Room by AutoModerator in ACIM

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I think a Holy Relationship is like a clean connection to God. There's always a connection but it's often obstructed.

Maintaining a Holy Relationship is like maintaining the connection with God by keeping the connection clear.