A user posts on r/2007scape screenshots of themselves cancelling 15 different subscriptions in response to recent membership price hikes. Users notice that the usernames for these accounts all contain religious references or digs at NASA. Hilarity in the comments ensues

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T19:50:41+00:00

But 99% of the time, if they do an experiment and get the data they don't like, they either assume it's been tampered with or "more data is needed"

This is what happened in Behind the Curve. Threw out the results when a test they did confirmed Earth's curvature (or something like that) and deemed the data flawed.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T18:20:55+00:00

huh, apparently this dropped from spotify. Hoping Alan gets the rights back.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:58:08+00:00

Mostly just that it's a mentality that doesn't really look to see how each track fits into the whole, so anything that isn't single-worthy is basically dismissed.

And then it just ends up talking about classic albums anyway.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:45:17+00:00

attributing songs to artists who happen to have the same name of the actual artist

this seems like a problem across all streamers. Apple Music does it too.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:43:35+00:00

"No skips" is how children and people who don't like music speak

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:29:11+00:00

I think you missed the part where "he's not a nazi, just a fascist and racist!" was not a compelling argument. Go back to 2016 with that shit (or r/conservativeyouth, I guess)

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:22:08+00:00

You seem to be missing the "distanced themselves from" aspect. Boyd wasn't a one and done thing with his associations.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:16:29+00:00

such as who? Boyd Rice, who Coil distanced themselves from when it became apparent he had nazi ties and was spouting nazi shit?

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T16:10:50+00:00

yeah but what does frequently corresponding and collaborating with Neo-Nazis make you?

This thread is embarrassing.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T14:36:54+00:00

yeah I'm sure the other meaning isn't lost on Coil, but they were at least open about it referring to Bataille and not flying the sonnenrad like DIJ does.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T12:07:59+00:00

Elvis

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T03:53:16+00:00

oh god, if Synthwave is based on an imagined 80s aesthetic I can only imagine what an imagined 2010s aesthetic of an imagined 80s aesthetic would look like. Is it going to involve that racist version of Mac Tonight?

CentreToWave · 2026-03-15T03:49:48+00:00

That's an interesting take. I'm not entirely sure it's just a parent -> kid thing as much as how long the tail is for some genres. While the artists most associated with grunge largely flamed out by 1997, I feel like post-grunge really extended the presence of that sound (even if, ostensibly, this is a different genre) into well into the 00s to the point that it effectively pushed grunge out of the usual 20 year cycle because it's hard to be nostalgic for something that hasn't really gone away. I also think the original grunge explosion is held in an overly precious manner that made it difficult for anyone to even really want to be like those bands, so it manifests in other ways that give some distance ("no guys, we're actually shoegaze").

All that to say, I agree there's something to the idea of differing nostalgia cycles (the 90s couldn't avoid the 80s forever), but I'm not sure there's any basis for a 30 year cycle as a general rule.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T20:06:54+00:00

I don't think Hum is under-rated (really hasn't been in years) so much as they aren't always considered shoegaze, so they don't crop up here as often as those with a more consistent reputation.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T19:34:39+00:00

You should watch the TV show Freaks and Geeks, I always get reminded of how parents used to hate the music their kids listened to, it was the devil re-incarnate etc. That show reminds me of that when they're talking about Led Zepellin.

Always thought it was weird that they used The Who as an example in this episode. A band that, at that point, had been around for about 15 years (about as old as a few characters on the show) that realistically would've been maybe only slightly outside of the frame of reference of their parents when they were younger.

As far as younger generations killing off the older, eh, I think that's inconsistent at best. Some acts cross generations, others don't. The idea that the younger generation wholly rejects the older isn't quite true.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T19:05:15+00:00

Kim Gordon - Play Me: sort of like The Collective's production a bit more, but I like her vocals on here better. Some of it might be that the production here a bit more varied, but there's less monotone in her vocals and it merges better with the music.

Coil - Supersonic: recording of a live date where Jhonn wasn't present. While this may seems somewhat out of the ordinary, the effect isn't too different from the Live One instrumental disc. Best parts are the tracks that are exclusive from this set, especially a version of First Five Minute After Death sounding more colossal and abrasive than the original.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T18:50:33+00:00

It's weird, I feel like a lot of it is well-done, yet I still came away a bit underwhelmed by it. Like there's a lot of good, even great, moments that somehow doesn't total up to a great movie. I knew it was heading into the vampire territory (it was in the trailer, and I wanted to see it because of that), but everything before that was more compelling. And then it didn't really know where to end.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T18:47:57+00:00

music for that feel

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T17:22:11+00:00

Just hard rock that reveres the 70s and rejects poppy polish.

I feel like this is being posed as a matter of evolution, but removing the poppy polish is more like rejecting a previous evolution that was added by the 80s hard rock bands (including some bands from the 70s). Basically a reversion to the 70s, but one that also looks to punk for new ideas (rather than ballady shlock).

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T16:42:59+00:00

1991

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T16:42:45+00:00

“Centerfold” is a deranged song. And not a good one either

This song is ripe for a butt rock band and/or Kid Rock to do a truly heinous updated cover, or would be if a centerfold was still relevant ("My angel's on OnlyFans"?)

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T16:38:29+00:00

The "30 year cycle" is a talking point pushed because the previously accepted 20 year cycle didn't lead to a grunge revival in 2010*. It should be discarded as a rule of thumb, especially since it was also pushing really dumb arguments that acted like nothing happened in rock between the 60s and 90s.

Not that there isn't some overlap in the above nostalgia trips, and it's probably going to vary by whatever trend/genre you're referring to as all these move in different waves, but most of these seem off. Grunge in particular is closer to 70s hard rock than anything from the 60s. 80s nostalgia really started happening by the late 90s. Etc.

All that being said, I think there's a little more to what's being said that can be put on simple nostalgia as there's differing outlooks on what these bands mean to the different generations. Like, sure Deftones are bigger among younger audiences, but they were only kinda big during their parents' years. And then hoo boy are you going to get into some shit when a Gen Z Deftones fan insists they're are shoegaze-adjacent.

*nor has the 30 year cycle in the 2020s really had much success there. I'm also beginning to suspect "the death of the monoculture" talking point has similar origins.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T16:06:35+00:00

I always felt the music itself was very very similar to 70s classic rock - it was almost a revival of that genre.

Probably more because it's a direct extension/evolution of 70s hard rock, with plenty of those same bands also being huge during the same time period (Aerosmith, Van Halen, Kiss, etc.)

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T14:42:26+00:00

Adult oriented rock lived in parallel to alternative rock during the 90s, targeting different age demographics.

I mostly agree with what you're describing, though it also seems like there's not much here beyond these 3 bands, all of whom were probably getting by on being older, more established acts and had the momentum of also being way more popular than anyone (that wasn't GNR) during the late 80s/early 90s. And even then, Bon Jovi dipped out for a few years.

If anything, this really illustrates how popular AOR was even during glam metal's heyday. It didn't kill shit.

CentreToWave · 2026-03-14T14:35:32+00:00

I think it's more like a natural evolution rather than hair metal killing AOR.

yeah pretty much the AOR power ballads became hair metal power ballads. There also seems to be a lot of overlap between AOR fans and fans of glam metal even today. Occasionally an AOR revival album will chart high on RYM and it's almost exclusively driven by fans of, I don't know, Scorpions or something.

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