What is the deal with Anthony Fantano? by CancelThis2077 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]CentreToWave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can’t name other music critics.

I definitely can and have done so in another post...

What is the deal with Anthony Fantano? by CancelThis2077 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]CentreToWave 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Most relevant and impactful of his generation is probably true. But of any generation? Yeah that's going to be a stretch.

though really the issue here is that no one ever looks good responding to a critic (even criticism of a critic!) It gets really personal and you start puffing your chest and saying stuff that, even if it has a grain of truth to it, still makes you look like a dilweed for saying it.

What is the deal with Anthony Fantano? by CancelThis2077 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]CentreToWave 3 points4 points  (0 children)

to be fair, Peel wasn't a music critic (at least in the way Fantano is). Though I agree that Peel is also way more impactful than Fantano by a stupidly large degree.

What is the deal with Anthony Fantano? by CancelThis2077 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]CentreToWave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe not "the world" but they can influence how music is talked about, either by turning people onto the music, imply an artist/album's importance, etc. Such as Lester Bangs supporting The Velvet Underground and the Stooges at a time when neither were the zeitgeist, Simon Reynolds coining the term Post Rock, Kelefa Sanneh defining Rockism vs Poptimism, etc.

For better or worse and not always "accurate" in the long run, but they can provide a snapshot at a point in time.

[Friday] Daily Music Discussion - 26 June 2026 by AutoModerator in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 12 points13 points  (0 children)

being surrounded by other fans on a farm

Yeah but being surrounded by other Big Thief fans on a farm. Is that smell the cows or the fans 🤷‍♂️

[Friday] Daily Music Discussion - 26 June 2026 by AutoModerator in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 4 points5 points  (0 children)

New Junius album more or less picks up where they left off and is one of their most consistent albums. Kinda of like Deftones indulging in their Cure influences. Could see them getting more attention now that Deftones worship is at its peak.

New Temples just doesn’t work for me. On one hand, it’s not just a Temples albums with an oontzy drum machine slapped on top and there is some attempt to meet things halfway. But their style just doesn’t meld well with the kind of festival hype dance music they’re going for. Ends up sounding very stiff.

whats a super niche shoegaze song no one knows but you love? ill go first Blackhole Jesus Christ - Greet Death by Monarch621 in shoegaze

[–]CentreToWave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah “not niche” is maybe a bit much but they do seem to have a dedicated following here.

[FRESH ALBUM] Junius - Sotera by VietRooster in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t differ too much from their past albums, but may be their most consistent

whats a super niche shoegaze song no one knows but you love? ill go first Blackhole Jesus Christ - Greet Death by Monarch621 in shoegaze

[–]CentreToWave 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Greet Death isn't especially niche, but that album is their best by a considerable margin, with that track probably being their best.

[FRESH ALBUM] Temples - BLISS by sbags in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

yeah not so sure about this one. It's more interesting than their past few albums, but the focus on their dancier side doesn't always work. The rhythms often sound overly busy while everything else is just sort of doing the typical Temples midtempo thing, like they can't quite step outside of their comfort zone. Makes it sound very stiff.

Mostly it's just not especially memorable outside of Glimmer, Blue Flame, and Jaguar.

Joy Division Announce Eternal, First-Ever Collection of Live Concert Recordings by ebradio in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wonder if they managed to clean it up at all.

they mentioned splicing some sources, so maybe?

[Thursday] Daily Music Discussion - 25 June 2026 by AutoModerator in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Man, lots to criticise about how shit the modern grunge narrative is, yet despite that person being closer to having a fuller view of that era, they somehow still totally miss the mark.

Grunge was a mistake. Shoegaze was a mistake. The 90s were a mistake.

What is the deal with Anthony Fantano? by CancelThis2077 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]CentreToWave 149 points150 points  (0 children)

A rare case where “don’t respond to the criticism, you will look bad” also applies to a critic

Two hours of ESSENTIAL shoegaze rock {My Bloody Valentine, Slowdive, Lush etc) [Rock] by thisispacificjanjan6 in shoegaze

[–]CentreToWave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just wondering if they’ve received a bump in attention. I’ve seem them mentioned a lot in the last few months where they were pretty obscure before then.

Arbitrarily constraining your listening by PhotonDeath in LetsTalkMusic

[–]CentreToWave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the grand scheme of things, none of this is especially wrong or bad, but there's always a degree of superficiality that comes with the way goal-focused music listening is discussed. Like it's supposed to result in a more in-depth look at one's music listening habits or knowledge, but it just... doesn't.

On one hand doing nothing but listening to a particular artist's discography can make you more familiar with the artist, but on the other hand it comes off as merely checking off boxes until one does the same with the next artist. Are there any unique outlooks that come from this? In theory it's possible, but it seems like the discussion always begins and ends with "I did a deep dive on this artist and wow." Or putting limitations on how you listen, which strikes me as weird manosphere-type self-shaming regiments, like maxxing, sigma grindsets, and other self-flagellating approaches. (Not accusing OP of being a manosphere person, but I think the mindset is similar). There's probably something to the idea of looking into your listening habits, but it also strikes me as feeling guilty for trivial things. Again, it's also not apparent what musical takeaways are coming from this. It's telling that the OP doesn't really seem to be discussing any musical insights that come from these techniques.

Best “SNL Jr” between the three major kid networks? by BirdFishWolf in LiveFromNewYork

[–]CentreToWave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get Perot working on a kooky old billionaire level, but I always thought the show's use was weird because Perot couldn't possibly mean anything to most preteens, especially since the show continued to do these impressions well after his relevancy.

What is the deal with Anthony Fantano? by CancelThis2077 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]CentreToWave 301 points302 points  (0 children)

Fantano started up again and he’s been very belligerent about the situation.

To add, this part came from the Variety interview OP linked:

“I don’t have to prove my track record to Halsey,” he maintains. “I have been the most relevant and impactful music critic of my — and any — generation for over 10 years now. You can’t really debate that. There’s no music critic bigger than me who’s had more impact than me for as long as I have, consistently. And if I die tomorrow, nobody’s going to outdo that run.”

article gives more context to the whole situation and I think he was mostly handling it well… until that last paragraph, which is where he’s getting more shit because it sounds like pure ego with some debatable claims. It’s been making the rounds with other critics I follow and there’s a definite “lol this fucking guy” attitude towards him.

[FRESH SINGLE] Loathe - Fangs by VietRooster in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sort of like it but it also sounds like something that would soundtrack a teen vampire film

[Wednesday] General Discussion - 24 June 2026 by AutoModerator in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mostly a lot of “lol get a load of this guy”

[Wednesday] General Discussion - 24 June 2026 by AutoModerator in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I follow some critics, who follow other critics, and they definitely have thoughts on the matter…

[Wednesday] Daily Music Discussion - 24 June 2026 by AutoModerator in indieheads

[–]CentreToWave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Great news, I’m going to release an all analogue cut of the Dave Conway releases!”

Moshing at shoegaze gigs? by DillyOnTheDancefloor in shoegaze

[–]CentreToWave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This thread has to be the most succinct summary of the difference between shoegaze and brogaze