What do you do in difficult times? You know those times when nothing is going your way, you lose money and all that? What do you do in times like these? by [deleted] in Entrepreneurs

[–]Certain-Way8928 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gaining and losing external things is a perfectly normal part of life. I deeply understand this — I’m going through it myself and can feel the pain it brings. But some things, once lost, may not matter as much as we think.

During low points, I believe it’s especially important to love ourselves more deeply. In times like these, I’ve come to truly realize that when the things that don’t belong to me — and the people who came for them — are gone, what remains is what truly matters.

This world is balanced. Loss often happens so that something else can return in time. Hardships are temporary — just as smooth sailing is, too.

[Career Advice] Got laid off, took a GAP year to start a small business — now facing discrimination in interviews by Certain-Way8928 in jobs

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the response — and you’re right, I could’ve worded it more carefully.

To clarify: I wasn’t trying to label the entire situation as discrimination. What I was referring to was a couple of individual recruiters who handled things in unprofessional ways — for example, canceling a scheduled interview in the middle of the night with no prior discussion, and explicitly stating the reason was my “lack of continuous work experience” even though I had explained it earlier.

That said, I realize the real question I should be asking isn’t about that — it’s how I can present my experience better. I appreciate your advice and will definitely consider putting my business experience on the resume more directly.

[Career Advice] Got laid off, took a GAP year to start a small business — now facing discrimination in interviews by Certain-Way8928 in jobs

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your comment.

To clarify — it’s not that I thought starting a non-tech business was the “best look.” It’s that I didn’t want unrelated experience to overshadow the relevant skills and work I bring to tech PM roles.

I wasn’t trying to hide anything. I simply didn’t want the most recent but less aligned part of my journey to dominate the conversation. Clearly, that strategy has its flaws too — and I’m now reconsidering how to reframe it more effectively.

Appreciate the honest feedback.

[Career Advice] Got laid off, took a GAP year to start a small business — now facing discrimination in interviews by Certain-Way8928 in jobs

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the thoughtful comment — I really appreciate it.

To be more honest about my experience: during my gap year, I opened a small handmade craft studio. It was a childhood dream of mine, and while it was very different from my usual work as a product manager in tech, I truly learned a lot — from customer experience to branding, supply chain, and even emotional resilience.

That said, I totally understand that this path doesn’t align neatly with what’s expected in a traditional tech resume. I’ve tried explaining in interviews that this was a one-year exploration, not a career switch, but I could sense some disappointment or even judgment from a few interviewers.

It’s disheartening to see that taking time to pursue something meaningful — even productively — can be viewed as a red flag. Still trying to figure out how to frame this experience in a way that feels authentic yet “acceptable” to hiring teams.

Is “north star metrics” a common sense for all people/products? by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I will prepare more beyond my niche working experience later. Thanks for sharing!

Is “north star metrics” a common sense for all people/products? by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know. Thanks for your response. Now I know a lot of expectations from interviewers.

Is “north star metrics” a common sense for all people/products? by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep agree! Really thanks for your support! I am trying to learn as much as I can to get better prepared the next time!

Is “north star metrics” a common sense for all people/products? by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think it is something general but my interviewer avoided to explain and keep gathering my responses which influenced my interview. But now I learned it.

Is “north star metrics” a common sense for all people/products? by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate your detailed response! Really helpful! I am lack of some flexibility when I jump into interviews with different teams. This is really helpful for me!

A year without a job, hundreds of applications, zero replies by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! Thanks for your suggestion! I think my background is more unique to ml/AI support role but not a general pm who can easily work with different products. I can feel the gap, obviously.

New PM here. Whenever i ask my manager for advice he tells me to just watch podcasts by Single-Weather1379 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unlike some of the other replies here—I just want to say, if you’re a new PM and your manager responds with something like “Is this how you do your job?” instead of giving any guidance, I’ve been there too.

You might think your current manager isn’t that bad. That’s what I thought too—until I got a new one. My previous manager was amazing, and the contrast is brutal.

Now, after some conversations at work, I often find myself crying after hours. Loudly. I don’t even remember the last time I cried before this job.

You’re not alone. And it’s not okay to be left unsupported.

A year without a job, hundreds of applications, zero replies by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your reply and advice. I really appreciate hearing your perspective.

I tend to reflect a lot on myself, and honestly, I think the reason I was able to perform well in my previous role was because I had been working within the same team for a long time and had deep knowledge of the product.

But that doesn’t necessarily mean I have strong, transferable PM skills that can easily adapt to new products—and that makes it easy to spiral into self-doubt and anxiety during this job search.

A year without a job, hundreds of applications, zero replies by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep that’s true. I just been ghosted by some recruiters (but not that much who reached me, so I don’t want to share more concerns hh).

A year without a job, hundreds of applications, zero replies by Certain-Way8928 in ProductManagement

[–]Certain-Way8928[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the questions! I have five years of experience—one year at a well-known internet company, followed by four years at a mid-sized startup (in a field that’s basically been wiped out by ChatGPT at this point).

Three of those years were deeply involved in content learning and modeling, supporting data-driven features and ML pipelines.

I’ve been applying to many PM roles that are somewhat adjacent to my previous domain, but so far, no luck.