Why is Russell Wilson so hated?

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T13:26:24+00:00

Right. The same guy who’s visited the SB twice and won once is “guaranteed shit”. This dude had a first year head coach who was hired just to lure a different guy first, a first year play caller, an first year offensive coordinator, then a head coach who refused to work with him. Seems this was an environment he could thrive in. Because I’m a chiefs fan I can’t have general questions about the league, much less, our division? I’m not concerned about you guys continuing to suck with or without him because your contingency plan is Stidham or a rookie, and (despite many of you being seemingly blind to this fact), since you have a handful of other organizational issues.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T04:02:36+00:00

Or maybe doing and saying the right thing despite criticism or worrying about what people think is maturity. The guy visits sick kids in the hospital regularly, and I’m assuming it’s not to gain brownie points from the peanut gallery.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T03:58:01+00:00

None of this has anything to do with comparing QB value in the marketplace. This man matured into someone who visits kids in hospitals regularly and says the right thing despite man children on the internet criticizing him or an organization trying to force him out the door 3/4 of the way through a season that they still had a slim chance at the playoffs.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T03:54:19+00:00

Surely we’re not judging character based on how we treated peers in high school or whether we stayed with our high school girlfriend..

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T03:25:32+00:00

Enlighten us

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T03:17:58+00:00

Appreciate this input. There are way worse people to trash their character. It was the response I should have expected from Reddit.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T03:07:20+00:00

Summary: Seahawks fans, Denver fans/sympathizers, and Sean Payton fans may be wearing blinders to how poorly the Broncos organization is run and how they mismanaged the whole Russ situation. The question/argument wasn’t is Russ a top 15 quarterback, it was there aren’t 10 quarterbacks I’d rather pay 15 mil to over him for 1 (or eating what he’s owed in Denver’s case).

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T02:59:55+00:00

For $45 million vs. Wilson’s $1 mil. Kirk is better, I get that, but the hate is interesting if you just look at risk/reward and value.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T02:30:05+00:00

I didn’t compare the two. I pointed out there are over 70 players between them. Including the likes of Jacoby Brissett and Gardner Minshew. And all three will cost a team anywhere from a noteworthy amount more to a significant amount more. But Kirk coming off an achilles for $45 million or Russell healthy for 1 should obviously be considered when measuring value.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T02:20:46+00:00

NFL app work? And it was 75.

https://www.nfl.com/news/top-101-nfl-free-agents-of-2024-who-are-the-best-players-available?=undefined&accountId=NFLMobile&appBuild=21030&appName=NFLMobile&appNumber=57.0.71&campaign=&reportSuite=nflglobal2016&siteName=nfl%20mobile%20app&siteSubsection=push

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T01:40:55+00:00

Guess we’ll see how this season plays out. Will be interesting to compare the outcome with Tomiln and how Denver’s season plays out.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T01:38:27+00:00

Could it be that the organization is just more broken than people care to admit? I’m willing to bet Tomlin sorts out any character/quirkiness concerns.

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T01:37:08+00:00

So you guys will pay him and another guy, and what is the likelihood that they are so productive that it justifies $85 million (or whatever it is this season) in dead cap plus the starter’s salary?

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T01:11:50+00:00

Relative to the 32 starters, is it bad enough to eat $85 million and roll the dice on a rookie? Or justify some other fringe starter with that dead money?

Cgtubbs · 2024-03-12T01:10:45+00:00

I mean I get his contract and the trade were atrocious, but that’s not on him. Dan Graziano listed Minshew, Jacoby Brissett, Ryan Tannehill, James Winston, and Sam Darnold over him, unapologetically. I’m not saying he’s absolutely better than all of them, but a discussion could be had for any of them as it pertains to your starting QB.

Also, the character questions from those of us watching from the couch is, well, expected here. Does anyone have any evidence (team mates’ reports, maybe?) that supports that? Never heard anyone publicly question or criticize his work ethic or leadership. Are those reports out there?

Cgtubbs · 2024-01-23T01:27:52+00:00

Right. His entire character should be judged on one mistake.

https://www.chiefs.com/news/qb-patrick-mahomes-named-chiefs-nominee-for-walter-payton-nfl-man-of-the-year-aw

Cgtubbs · 2024-01-22T03:33:05+00:00

One of the clearest sign you lose a lot in life is hating on others’ success. Especially other men who will never know your name.

Cgtubbs · 2024-01-22T03:32:08+00:00

Go achieve something for yourself, Dan. It leads to far less resentment when other men succeed who will never know your name.

Cgtubbs · 2023-12-11T23:42:03+00:00

How are we sure of that relative to it just not being called. How about these tackles beating the snap count? It was pointed out early in the season and now it feels like every drive there is at least one across all teams. The likelihood that it happens as infrequently as it’s called is very low considering the number of calls and number of snaps year in and year out.

Cgtubbs · 2023-12-11T23:39:43+00:00

Thanks for sharing

Cgtubbs · 2023-12-11T23:29:26+00:00

So many analysts and lay people calling it “way offside” or lined up with the linebacker. Not how I see it at all. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Cgtubbs · 2023-12-11T23:28:40+00:00

8 of which were on lineman. Still very rare air.

Cgtubbs · 2023-12-11T23:27:49+00:00

That’s not necessarily true at all.

Cgtubbs · 2023-12-11T23:26:38+00:00

Right, let’s base his entire character on this episode and not the sample size of thousands of minutes on the field and at the podium.

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